Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-11 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks Fred. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fred Moir Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal Yup. Fred Moir Lynn MA On 12

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-11 Thread Fred Moir
Yup. Fred Moir Lynn MA On 12/11/2010 7:37 AM, Max Dillon wrote: OK, so to diagnose that condition, once I've got the MC off, I presume there is an opening to the booster through which I can test for presence of brake fluid? -Max Peter, No sign of loss of brake fluid from the reservoir,

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-11 Thread Peter T. Arnold
hich I can test for presence of brake fluid? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:38 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal On Fri, 10

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-11 Thread Max Dillon
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:38 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:50:15 -0500 "Max Dillon" wrote: > Peter, > > No sign of loss of brake fluid from the reservoir, and the engine oil > level is holding stea

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
ginal Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 5:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal You can just put the Mityvac on the suction side of the booster,

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Craig
ay, December 10, 2010 5:31 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal > > More to the point, a bad MC will fill the brake booster with brake > fluid, which is a bad thing. I'm not sure I want brake fluid in the > oil > >

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread John Reames
boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Peter Frederick > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 4:15 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal > > If there is no fluid leak, the master cylinder is bad. Not a big job > to replace, and not anyw

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
, 2010 2:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal You can just put the Mityvac on the suction side of the booster, suck it down and see if it holds vac. If it doesn't then the diaphragm is bad. I replaced to MC on the TD, getting those line fittings ba

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread toms cat1
2010 17:09:18 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal Message-ID: <449ff575-e582-4e82-ba3a-6bffd2ec2...@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Put the l

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
cedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:49 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal Greg, tell me more about this test for the power assist unit. Have Mity-vac! -Max -

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Fmiser
> Rich Thomas wrote: > and getting them > lined up just right to get the fittings started can either > take 10sec or 30min. While brake fluid is all over. Don't tighten the mount bolts until all the lines are started. Don't tighten any of the lines until _all_ the lines are started. That doesn'

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Max Dillon
m] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 5:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal You can just put the Mityvac on the suction side of the booster, suck it down and see if it holds vac. If it doesn't then the diaphragm is bad. I repl

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
I just like busting on loosers. --R On 12/10/2010 5:50 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: so I can't spell, eh? Can't type worth doodly anymore, either, since I can't see anything less than an inch tall on the screen. Peter. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For n

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
Put the lines on before putting the master cylinder all the way down on the bolts. Much easier. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chang

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Mity-vac! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fiorentino Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 5:06 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal A failed vacuum pump

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
so I can't spell, eh? Can't type worth doodly anymore, either, since I can't see anything less than an inch tall on the screen. Peter. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Max Dillon
erick Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 5:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal More to the point, a bad MC will fill the brake booster with brake fluid, which is a bad thing. I'm not sure I want brake fluid in the

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Max Dillon
ubject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal A failed vacuum pump can damage the power assist unit. This can be easily tested with the Mity-Vac. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Friday, D

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Max Dillon
st Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal Sounds like an internal leak on M/C. O'haul or change it. Alternative, get a big surprise when going down a hill... -- Pete Arnold "You win some, You loose some and You wreck some! -Dale Earnhardt- On 12/10/2010 3:59 PM, Max Dill

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Max Dillon
edes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fred Moir Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal Max, et al. M/cyl bypassing its' seals. Rebuild or replace. Worse in the cold, seals not as f

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Max Dillon
z.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 4:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal If there is no fluid leak, the master cylinder is bad. Not a big job to replace, and not anywhere ne

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Loosing, losing or loosening? On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > Yep, loosing you're break peddle is no good. > > --R > > On 12/10/2010 4:15 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: >> >> If there is no fluid leak, the master cylinder is bad.  Not a big job to >> replace, and not anywhere ne

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Yep, loosing you're break peddle is no good. --R On 12/10/2010 4:15 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: If there is no fluid leak, the master cylinder is bad. Not a big job to replace, and not anywhere near as expensive and suddenly loosing your brakes all together! Peter __

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
More to the point, a bad MC will fill the brake booster with brake fluid, which is a bad thing. I'm not sure I want brake fluid in the oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://w

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
ssion List' Subject: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal OK folks, check my work here. After rebuilding the calipers on my '95 E300, the service manual says to apply hard pressure to the brake pedal for a short period of time, and then check for evidence of leaks. When I did this test,

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Sounds like an internal leak on M/C. O'haul or change it. Alternative, get a big surprise when going down a hill... -- Pete Arnold "You win some, You loose some and You wreck some! -Dale Earnhardt- On 12/10/2010 3:59 PM, Max Dillon wrote: OK folks, check my work here. After rebuilding the

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Fred Moir
Max, et al. M/cyl bypassing its' seals. Rebuild or replace. Worse in the cold, seals not as flexible. Fred Moir Lynn MA On 12/10/2010 3:59 PM, Max Dillon wrote: OK folks, check my work here. After rebuilding the calipers on my '95 E300, the service manual says to apply hard pressure to the brak

Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
If there is no fluid leak, the master cylinder is bad. Not a big job to replace, and not anywhere near as expensive and suddenly loosing your brakes all together! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search li

[MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal

2010-12-10 Thread Max Dillon
OK folks, check my work here. After rebuilding the calipers on my '95 E300, the service manual says to apply hard pressure to the brake pedal for a short period of time, and then check for evidence of leaks. When I did this test, no sign of any leakage, but the brake pedal slowly sank while I sto