Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2013-01-08 Thread Dieselhead
On inline engines i have put in a new chain many times by myself. Definitely have a heavy wire (16 ga copper or larger or a coathanger) on each end with loops beg enough they won't drop inside.. I have had a locking forceps with relief behind the jaws that I use for fishing out the chain

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2013-01-07 Thread Fmiser
dseretakis wrote: Thanks Peter. Do you think that fancy tool is worth it? Craig wrote: Attached is a picture of a cheap version of the fancy tool someone on the list made sometime on the past. I'll let others comment on its efficacy and appropriateness. Hey! That looks like mine!

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-28 Thread dseretakis
Thanks. This is great stuff. About the tool; I'm not sure how it works. It keeps the chain against the cam but doesn't the chain still have to be pulled to feed it through and keep things taught? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 27

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-28 Thread Mitch Haley
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. This is great stuff. About the tool; I'm not sure how it works. It keeps the chain against the cam but doesn't the chain still have to be pulled to feed it through and keep things taught? Yes, it lets you turn the engine carefully while feeding a new chain

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Hey Dimitri, You should have changed the timing chain at 100K miles so first roll back the odometer. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. This is great stuff. About the tool; I'm not sure how it works. It keeps the chain

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-28 Thread dseretakis
Haha. It's not mileage but stretch. Last I checked mine was at 5 degrees. So are you helping out? Everyone here recommends one person to turn crankshaft and two people to pull and feed the chain - you, me, Gael! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I'm unfortunately not available to help out this time. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:38 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Haha. It's not mileage but stretch. Last I checked mine was at 5 degrees. So are you helping out? Everyone here recommends one person to turn crankshaft and two people to pull

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-28 Thread dseretakis
Maybe next time. 200K miles away! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm unfortunately not available to help out this time. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:38 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Haha. It's not mileage but stretch. Last I

[MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-27 Thread dseretakis
I might be changing the timing chain on my 82 240D in the next three weeks. I've never done this and so will be enlisting the help of a friend in DC. (Andrew, you are welcome to help!) The car has around 245,000 miles. Any tips on the procedure? What special tools, if any, I might need? Should

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-27 Thread Peter Frederick
You should inspect the rails now - - if there are grooves worn in them, they need to be replaced. Put them in when you do the new chain. A chain breaking/swaging tool is nice, but not absolutely necessary. If you can fish one up, there is a bracket to bolts over the cam sprocket that holds

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-27 Thread dseretakis
Thanks Peter. Do you think that fancy tool is worth it? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: You should inspect the rails now - - if there are grooves worn in them, they need to be replaced. Put them in when you do the new chain. A

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-27 Thread clay monroe
If you are going to open it up, you may as well do the tensioners and guides. If you are pretty sure everything else is in good condition, you can just remove the valve cover and spin the crank until you get to the link. Split the link after you mark everything as to position. Three people

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-27 Thread Peter Frederick
If you can find one to borrow, I certainly would. Not sure I'd buy one for a couple hundred bucks for one use though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-27 Thread Craig
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 22:11:52 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It should save some time, but I don't think it's worth it iff you don't replace timeing chains more than two or three times in your life. I followed Peter's process almost exactly all three times I've done it. I used three

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

2012-12-27 Thread OK Don
It should save some time, but I don't think it's worth it iff you don't replace timeing chains more than two or three times in your life. I followed Peter's process almost exactly all three times I've done it. I used three pieces of 12 ga. house wire to tie the chain to the cam sprocket - keeping