It's not about Pearl Harbor. It's about the cheap associations I make with
Japanese cars.
BTW, the Germans directly impacted my father while he was a child in Greece
during WWII. They bombed his house and he had to flee into the mountains as
they were killing all young males. I'm not holding
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:28 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
While finally getting to my front brake job, I encountered a failing
drivers side wheel bearing. There was discoloration and shallow pitting
on
the outboard race. BTW, how much longer would this bearing take to
actually
fail?
I wonder why they don't fix the problem. The outside Timken bearing that didn't
fit was a set 2 according to Autozone. What does set 2 mean?
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On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
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I wonder why they don't fix the problem. The outside Timken bearing that
didn't fit was a set 2 according to Autozone. What
.
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I wonder why they don't fix the problem. The outside Timken bearing that
didn't fit was a set 2 according
On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
It's not about Pearl Harbor. It's about the cheap associations I make with
Japanese cars.
I was teasing. I am old enough to remember the tin clicker toys that said Made
in Japan on them. MIJ stood for junk. Jap Crap. Inferior
i come of age with nikon cameras, fuji and panasonic bicycles and japanese
autos taking over. having come after that clicker toys, all i could see
was wow, these people are really on to something!
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote:
On Aug 28, 2013, at
today will go, with minimal maintenance 200,000 miles. Even 20 years
ago that was a stretch for all but diesels.
-Curt
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traveled in each.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:26:58 -0400
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Someone wrote:
i come of age with nikon cameras, fuji and panasonic bicycles and japanese
autos taking over. having come after that clicker toys, all i could see
was wow, these people are really on to something!
They were on to W. Edwards Deming. The US didn't listen.
Japanese did listen,
On Aug 28, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
After WWII, the companies sent all the women trained in SPC home to have
babies, and forgot all they learned.
Statistical Process Control if anyone was wondering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_process_control
Curt Raymond wrote:
Yeah you want a good quality American car like a Pinto or Vega or Cordoba.
Oh wait.
Well, there are a lot more Pintos than Coronas and Civics running around these
days, at least here in the rust belt. My '76 Civic died of rust. My 1975 Civic
got parked because of worn
On Aug 28, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
You have to credit the Asians with raising the quality of ALL cars. Any
cheapo new car today will go, with minimal maintenance 200,000 miles. Even 20
years ago that was a stretch for all but diesels.
I drove my '79
Gary Hurst wrote:
i haven't seen a pinto on the road in many years
There's a yellow Pinto in Olivet, and believe it or not, two Chevettes in
Charlotte. I haven't actually seen the Pinto moving, but it's quite cherry and
has current (non-collector) tags on it. Parked outdoors in the driveway.
of ALL cars. Any
cheapo new car today will go, with minimal maintenance 200,000 miles. Even
20 years ago that was a stretch for all but diesels.
-Curt
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i had a neighbor in GA who is still regularly driving a chevette. he says
it was his mother's cars so he plans to keep it up and use it till he
dies. his main driver is a late model toyota though
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Gary Hurst wrote:
i
On Aug 28, 2013 10:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
the argument that an 88 corolla feels cheap compared to an 88
560SEC is really not very meaningful given the cost of each car. if you
changed that to an 88 LS400 and an 88 300E, you have a more fair
comparison
and a much
i haven't seen a pinto on the road in many years
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Curt Raymond wrote:
Yeah you want a good quality American car like a Pinto or Vega or Cordoba.
Oh wait.
Well, there are a lot more Pintos than Coronas and Civics
years ago that was a stretch for all but diesels.
-Curt
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It's
FAST though. Took maybe 20 years before they exceeded
American car makers that had been around for 40-50 years.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:58:09 -0400
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A 90 LS400 feels like a tin can compared to any Mercedes of the same era. I
remember when Lexus first came out back then. I checked out the LS400
] Wheel bearing fiasco.
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Curt Raymond wrote:
Yeah you want a good quality American car like a Pinto or Vega or Cordoba.
Oh wait.
Well, there are a lot more Pintos than Coronas and Civics
than cheap feel...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:25:17 -0400
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and go and get them there and back. Reliability is way more important
than cheap feel...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:25:17 -0400
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I had that happen on my 190D though I think it was that the outer was too
big but I forget now. Fortunately I had a set I'd bought from Rusty that I'd
forgotten about.
That reminds me I should order a spare, 190Ds seem to be somewhat harder on
wheel
today (with probably over 100K miles on them).
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Raymond
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I had that happen on my 190D though I
Gary Hurst wrote:
i haven't seen a pinto on the road in many years
There's a yellow Pinto in Olivet, and believe it or not, two Chevettes in
Charlotte. I haven't actually seen the Pinto moving, but it's quite cherry
and has current (non-collector) tags on it. Parked outdoors in the
yeah, as collectors. i'd guess there is a yugo club somewhere as well but
i also haven't seen one of those in decade either
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote:
Gary Hurst wrote:
i haven't seen a pinto on the road in many years
There's a yellow
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
But then and still now they have in my opinion retained a
lingering cheapness both in interior, appointments, build quality
(excluding drivetrain) and styling (which varies from awful to
acceptable, but never anything great).
That is mostly perception and
On Aug 28, 2013 10:26 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
i had a neighbor in GA who is still
regularly driving a chevette.
Chevettes were RWD, which is kind of interesting considering GM's
near-total commitment to FWD that started around 1980 and continued through
their bankruptcy. I
they were 1960s german opels that chevy was selling deep into the 80s.
they they use daewoos for the market segment
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
On Aug 28, 2013 10:26 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
i had a neighbor in GA who
You are correct that logic cannot be entirely applied to this argument. It is
very difficult to define cheapness and quality. Robert Pirsig struggled
with the definition of quality in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
I know what it is but can't necessarily put it into words but I feel
FYI.. in future, if you need a bearing, or a seal.. google bearing
catalog. You will therein find listed every major bearing manufacturer,
world wide, and the catalog for each. Within the various catalogs will be
listings by dimension for each bearing by ID, OD, Depth, etc, etc.. ad
nauseium.
While finally getting to my front brake job, I encountered a failing drivers
side wheel bearing. There was discoloration and shallow pitting on the outboard
race. BTW, how much longer would this bearing take to actually fail?
Needing the car back on the road I went to my local autozone and
japan is the best you can get. jap crap rocks!
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:28 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
While finally getting to my front brake job, I encountered a failing
drivers side wheel bearing. There was discoloration and shallow pitting on
the outboard race. BTW, how much longer
On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
japan is the best you can get. jap crap rocks!
Dimitri hates anything from Japan.
They bombed Pearl Harbor.
Rick
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IF the bearing race or rollers are discolored or pitted, it is already a
failed bearing. REPLACE I
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:28 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
While finally getting to my front brake job, I encountered a failing
drivers side wheel bearing. There was discoloration and
true. and the germans have a pretty clean record during that time frame,
so i can see the point
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
japan is the best you can get. jap crap rocks!
Dimitri hates anything from Japan.
They bombed Pearl Harbor.
Near as I can tell, all the guilty parties are dead now.
Gotta let it go sometime, else hello Middle East, etc.
-- Jim
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