Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/6/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So all this talk about Asian cars going 100K miles without maintanence can not be true. Right off the bat, you have to change out the timing belt every 60K or so miles. On 2/6/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Ed: The older MB bodies were dropped onto front subframe (shades of days when there was a full frame underneatch, pre-1053!). Starting in 1976 with the W123 chassis, all engines were installed from above (the main reason for the extra wide opening hood). However, all MB

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Actually, 1953.. On Feb 6, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Ed: The older MB bodies were dropped onto front subframe (shades of days when there was a full frame underneatch, pre-1053!). Starting in 1976 with the W123 chassis, all engines were installed from above (the main reason

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, all MB engine/transmissions come out the top nicely. I have to say that when I pulled the engine and tranny from my W110, it was a VERY tight squeeze. Putting it back, I installed the tranny then dropped in the engine -- much easier. Allan

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Levi Smith
It all depends. I certainly didn't think the alternator in my 83' 300D was easy to remove. It wasn't THAT bad, but it required a few extra pieces be removed. My Subaru was just like two bolts from the top... The thermostat was easier on the sube since I didn't have to squash my hand in

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Cathey
It all depends. I certainly didn't think the alternator in my 83' 300D was easy to remove. It wasn't THAT bad, but it required a few extra pieces be removed. My Subaru was just like two bolts from the top... I've found nothing easier to work on than the Frankenheap, a 1972 200D (W115).

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Jim typed: I've found nothing easier to work on than the Frankenheap, a 1972 200D (W115). The Falcon,... The thing I always liked about my Falcon was how you could look under the hood and see more driveway than engine. Bob R.

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Rory
Amen Brother! On 2/7/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim typed: I've found nothing easier to work on than the Frankenheap, a 1972 200D (W115). The Falcon,... The thing I always liked about my Falcon was how you could look under the hood and see more driveway than engine. Bob R.

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread RELNGSON
Then a company did an independent study found a Volvo to be no safer than any other car the same size. When they uncovered this fact, they searched further discovered that the typical Volvo owner was a more conservative driver than a typical owner of the other brands! This led to the realization

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, not exactly true, as Volvo and Benz used to have much better crash testing data than other brands. Funny, I never see Benz or Volvo cars in crash tests anymore, wonder what that's all about, eh? Japanese cars DO require less work than American ones -- I've had way too many friends who

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread Levi Smith
Well, I don't think I'd call it a myth. The fact that the car will go 300-400K miles with almost no maintenance before smoking to a halt is much preferable to an american car going 100K before smoking to a halt... I haven't dealt with enough european stuff to compare, though I know my Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread Allan Streib
Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed. Or compared to an old Mercedes. My 83' 300D doesn't seem to use THAT much oil, (it's been on M1 15-50 for a while now) but it is VERY serious about marking it's territory anywhere that it parks. In multiple spots. I definitely don't need to

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread Levi Smith
I haven't noticed any change since I got the car and that had generic not even diesel approved oil in it, then I used the Delco, then a Synthetic blend and now M1 over the course of maybe 30K miles. It only seems to be a few drops at a time, but it sure seems to add up faster than ANYTHING else

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread R A Bennell
Couldn't agree with you more. My wife complained so bitterly about a 97 Sable that caused some minor problems that we traded it for a 98 Toyota Avalon. Very nice car in the sense of bells and whistles but no more reliable than the Sable so far as I can tell. It has just over 100K Kilos so about

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread Allan Streib
R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We also have 95 4Runner that was built in Japan. It has had its share of issues. The mileage is higher on it (close to 200K Kilos) and the engine is fine but we have had issues with the manual transmission and clutch as well as the the worst part is the

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote: Japanese cars DO require less work than American ones -- I've had way too many friends who have driven them hundreds of thousands of miles with nothing but tires, oil changes, and brakes -- and sometimes not even brakes. They can be a pain to work on when they *do*

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-06 Thread John Freer
So all this talk about Asian cars going 100K miles without maintanence can not be true. Right off the bat, you have to change out the timing belt every 60K or so miles. On 2/6/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Japanese cars DO require less work than American