Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread LWB250
This as 3-4 years ago, but I think they charged me around $200. Dan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, What kind of money did they want to balance a shaft? I have had prices of $700 to 900, and I am too cheap to spend that much. 900 is getting close to a Rusty price for

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey
What kind of money did they want to balance a shaft? I have had prices of $700 to 900, and I am too cheap to spend that much. I seem to recall that the outfit in Portland that did my 560 SL's U-joint, with balancing, was somewhere in the $200-300 range. (It was subcontracted by the shop that

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread Loren Faeth
Not bad. I found an $80 used driveshaft, and I am going to try that first. If it shakes too, then I will be able to send one off and not have the car down for 2-3 weeks while I send the driveshaft out somewhere. At 05:37 AM 5/1/2008, you wrote: This as 3-4 years ago, but I think they charged

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread archer
archer wrote: Glad to know that. I'll check with him and get the speedometer/odometer if necessary. If it was an '85, would the diff be higher or lower ratio? '83 should be 3.07:1, I think '85 is 2.88:1, which is about 7% taller. I believe the ratio is stamped on the housing somewhere.

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread Jim Cathey
Well this is OK Dons old SDL, he said somebody had it apart and didnt put it back right, cant remember all of what he told me. So by this year are the halves supposed to be marked? That would sure make life MUCH easier. As I mentioned before, by this time they were certainly marked at the

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread Jim Cathey
Man that sure seems beyond my rigging skills A 2x6 and some C-clamps? Not rocket science! Try looking for misaligned marks first, though. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, thats it. I knew the engine was replaced, but couldnt remember that was what lead to the driveshaft being seperated. Im going to get under there this weekend and see if I can line it up OK Don wrote: I told you that the engine was replaced by the PO - prior to me - and that it has had

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread LWB250
Kaleb knows this story, but for the benefit of those who don't I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's been stretched (by the factory) for use as a taxi. This particular chassis, due to the length, has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two flex disk, two center bearings, and

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread archer
Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread Mitch Haley
archer wrote: newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Should just bolt up. Did your new diff come from a 82-85 turbo? If the donor was

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread LWB250
These are the guys. They're more into truck and heavy equipment stuff, but they did a good job and worked with me to get it right. Florida Powertrain Hydraulics Inc 6501 Adamo Dr | Tampa, FL 33619 PH: (813) 623-6713 | FX: (813) 623-6713 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you recall

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread jfreezn
? Thanks, Gerry -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 6:16 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] bad vibration Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread LWB250
The only thing to watch for on the flex disc coupling at either end of the drive shaft is the direction that the disc is installed. There is an arrow on the disc that indicates the front of the vehicle, I believe. Do check the manual and confirm this, as it's been a while since I've done one.

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread archer
There has been an increasing amount of play in the gears, Jim. I had planned to put in a new diff support and run it as long as possible, but then one of axle boots started leaking so I decided to replace both the diff and the axle while I was at it. I've already received the diff,

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread archer
archer wrote: newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? --- Should just bolt up. Did your new

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread archer
I know where that is. Lived near Palm River many years ago. Thanks, Dan. Gerry - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are the guys. They're more into truck and heavy equipment stuff, but they did a good job and worked with me to get it right. Florida

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread Mitch Haley
archer wrote: Glad to know that. I'll check with him and get the speedometer/odometer if necessary. If it was an '85, would the diff be higher or lower ratio? '83 should be 3.07:1, I think '85 is 2.88:1, which is about 7% taller. I believe the ratio is stamped on the housing somewhere. Not

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread LWB250
You're welcome, Gerry. And I *don't* think you would want to be living in Palm River these days it's not the nicest part of town, unless you're looking for illicit behavior or articles. Dan --- archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know where that is. Lived near Palm River many years

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-30 Thread Loren Faeth
Dan, What kind of money did they want to balance a shaft? I have had prices of $700 to 900, and I am too cheap to spend that much. 900 is getting close to a Rusty price for a new drive shaft I think. These are the guys. They're more into truck and heavy equipment stuff, but they

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Kevin
This was going to be my suggestion as well. Check parts that could wear before assuming someone was stupid. If the parts are broken, you'll need to replace them anyways. That failing, if you have a complete prop shaft that is known to be good, I'd probably swap that in rather than trying to

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread LWB250
You know how much I struggled with the driveshaft vibration in the 250LWB - that went on for over two years. First, give it a good visual inspection - drive shafts don't go bad. If you find the offending part, like a bad U joint, mark everything like a maniac and take it somewhere to get the job

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No its a 87 300SDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/28/2008 9:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Got a bad driveshaft vibration going down the highway. Would it be best to A: just swap in a complete driveshaft from a different car, B: pull

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Man that sure seems beyond my rigging skills Jim Cathey wrote: Got a bad driveshaft vibration going down the highway. Would it be best to A: just swap in a complete driveshaft from a different car, B: pull driveshaft and have it balanced, or C: just keep moving the center section one notch

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well this is OK Dons old SDL, he said somebody had it apart and didnt put it back right, cant remember all of what he told me. So by this year are the halves supposed to be marked? That would sure make life MUCH easier. LWB250 wrote: You know how much I struggled with the driveshaft

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Luther
I'll trade you mine for it straight up Luther On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:20:00 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well this is OK Dons old SDL, he said somebody had it apart and didnt put it back right, cant remember all of what he told me. So by this year are the halves supposed

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread LWB250
Drive shafts were marked as far back as 84 if not earlier. I see no reason why they wouldn't have always been marked, as they have always been assembled and tested as a unit. Dig out a service manual or a CD and look at the section on drive shafts to see what the marks look like. I can't do

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thanks, will check it out. Didnt know they were marked, so that should be easy. LWB250 wrote: Drive shafts were marked as far back as 84 if not earlier. I see no reason why they wouldn't have always been marked, as they have always been assembled and tested as a unit. Dig out a service

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread LWB250
In a situation like this, where you've got vibration but you don't know the (whole) history, your best bet is to inspect the whole drive shaft, make sure everything is lined up properly, and after you're satisfied that it is, if the vibration persists, pull the whole thing out and take it to a

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Mitch Haley
LWB250 wrote: In a situation like this, where you've got vibration but you don't know the (whole) history... I'm wondering if maybe somebody assembled a driveshaft out of parts from two driveshafts. That would make the matchmarks useless. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Rolf
I missed the beginning of this, did it suddenly occur following car work? Have the carrier bear/bushing / flexdisks / transmounts all been inspected? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread LWB250
True, but you'll never know until you get the marks aligned to begin with. My point was to get a point of reference and then go from there. You have to assume nothing is right to begin with Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if maybe somebody assembled a

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh yea, I will inspect for sure. Im sure it just needs to have the marks lined up though. I cant for the life of me remember what OK Don told me about that LWB250 wrote: In a situation like this, where you've got vibration but you don't know the (whole) history, your best bet is to inspect

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just got the car, was told something was replaced or something and the shaft was apart then and not put back togehter correctly Rolf wrote: I missed the beginning of this, did it suddenly occur following car work? Have the carrier bear/bushing / flexdisks / transmounts all been inspected?

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Peter Frederick
In order: Check for damage to the shaft (even a dent will make it shake). Check for condition of flex disks -- any cracks, replace. Check center carrier and bearing -- a bad bearing can sound like a bad muffler, and the vibration will be centered on the carrier, right at the rear of the

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thanks!! Peter Frederick wrote: In order: Check for damage to the shaft (even a dent will make it shake). Check for condition of flex disks -- any cracks, replace. Check center carrier and bearing -- a bad bearing can sound like a bad muffler, and the vibration will be centered on

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-29 Thread OK Don
I told you that the engine was replaced by the PO - prior to me - and that it has had the vibration as long as I had it. I was considering using the two hose clamps balancing method - just move one relative to the other until it stops shaking. However, I just drove above or (sometimes) below the

[MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Got a bad driveshaft vibration going down the highway. Would it be best to A: just swap in a complete driveshaft from a different car, B: pull driveshaft and have it balanced, or C: just keep moving the center section one notch at a time till it gets lined back up like it should be.

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-28 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 4/28/2008 9:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Got a bad driveshaft vibration going down the highway. Would it be best to A: just swap in a complete driveshaft from a different car, B: pull driveshaft and have it balanced, or C: just keep

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-28 Thread Jim Cathey
Got a bad driveshaft vibration going down the highway. Would it be best to A: just swap in a complete driveshaft from a different car, B: pull driveshaft and have it balanced, or C: just keep moving the center section one notch at a time till it gets lined back up like it should be.

Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-04-28 Thread Harry Watkins
Check the u-joint close up. Mine was bad but it took a close look to see where it cracked open. I would select A if in your shoes, then do B if I ever got in a tight for another one. Harry On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a bad driveshaft