Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush (update)

2006-04-10 Thread John Berryman
On Apr 10, 2006, at 10:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, thanks again to all the commented on this problem, lots of valuable insight. Bottom line, it is running fine now. I opened up the thermostat housing, the radiator plug, the plug to the engine block, hoses to and from the heat

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-05 Thread Jim Cathey
I will look into that. I should mention that when I replaced the radiator hoses, rubber right ? They had a layer of rust in there. I think there is a ton of rust in this engine. What is the routine for getting rid of all of this ? Is one acid flush typically enough ? What about using a Pre

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-05 Thread Rick Knoble
I will look into that. I should mention that when I replaced the radiator hoses, rubber right ? They had a layer of rust in there. I think there is a ton of rust in this engine. What is the routine for getting rid of all of this ? Is one acid flush typically enough ? What about using a Pre

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-05 Thread John Berryman
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnny B. said: "Have you considered checking to see if the thermostat has junk in it or it's stuck from a reaction to the acid flush? Are your belts tight?" I will look into that. I should mention that when I replaced the radiator ho

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-05 Thread Potter, Tom E
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush Johnny B. said: "Have you considered checking to see if the thermostat has junk in it or it's stuck from a reaction to the acid flush? Are your belts tight?" I wil

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-05 Thread dieselbenz24
Johnny B. said: "Have you considered checking to see if the thermostat has junk in it or it's stuck from a reaction to the acid flush? Are your belts tight?" I will look into that. I should mention that when I replaced the radiator hoses, rubber right ? They had a layer of rust in there. I

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread John Berryman
On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. checking the weep hole on the water pump and the sound of the water pump and 2. Checking that the small tube that sends coolant to the head is clear. I think I will also check the connection of the temp sensor. Thanks to everyone tha

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread dieselbenz24
Marshall Wrote: "The most usual cause of what you describe is a BIG air bubble in the cooling system. Did you have the heater heat on full when filling the system? Did you finally fill the system thru the top radiator hose? That allows air to be expelled when nothing else works." I did not d

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread l02turner
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush Tom Potter mentioned that I might have a blocked "u tube between head and water pump". I will look into that before I start ordering par

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Harry Watkins
Many times an attempted flush will cause plugging in the radiator because of loose stuff, its a delayed reaction. My procedure it to remove the radiator, flush everything I can, forward and reverse with a hose, including the removed radiator. When it all looks clear, put it back together and do t

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread dieselbenz24
Tom Potter mentioned that I might have a blocked "u tube between head and water pump". I will look into that before I start ordering parts. The fact that my water pump is very rusty really sticks out since everything else is oily. That point is hard for me to get around. And that the coolant

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Dave M.
300D - 263kmi (Sportline) > -- > Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:04:12 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush > > >New Question: > > I guess the sensor is located on the top of the motor very near > the thermostat housing with one wire attached ?

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Cathey
checking the actual temperature of the head. I am thinking I should just change the sensor. Why potentially waste money? Check the temperature first, and replace the sender if it's wrong. Tom Potter said "the rust will form a mild abrasive destroying pump seals" this sounds like what might h

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Cathey
Um, I think you found the problem - water can not cool an engine by itself - you need a 50/50 blend of antifreeze / water. Water is an excellent coolant, even better than a glycol mix. It has other problems however, such as corrosion, freezability, and it can boil too easily under high heat co

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Dave M.
clutch not to engage is also important... you need good airflow through rad & condenser fins, AND there cannot be a "cool spot" in the radiator directly ahead of the clutch. :) +dm > -------------- > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:33:52 -0700 > Subject: Re: [MB

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Dave Wakin
. The other thing I should mention is that I am using water for coolant right now as I track down MB Coolant. Not sure if that would explain my problem. Seems unlikely since it was working fine. Um, I think you found the problem - water can not cool an engine by itself - you need a 50/50 ble

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread dieselbenz24
Thanks to all who responded! To answer a few questions: Dimitri asked if I had re-checked the coolant level. Yes I did. It was a few days after the flush that this overheating happened and in that time I added enough to top off. It was fine for a few days afterwards and then started acting

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Potter, Tom E
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush > All that said, I'd start with the thermostat! You did remember to > put it back in after the flush, right? Is it i

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Cathey
All that said, I'd start with the thermostat! You did remember to put it back in after the flush, right? Is it in correctly? Oh, and getting the air bubble out of the head can be tricky. I backfill the block through the upper radiator hose. Makes a big difference. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I recently did an acid flush and the car was running fine until a few days after the flush. The car now is running hotter than *before* the flush. Cooling systems are difficult to diagnose. You need a thermometer, I use the infrared contact-less type. First make sure the gauge is right. (It

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Did you re-check your coolant level? As far as flushing out every particle of rust, I did that once on a 450 SEL that I owned. This was back in the days of ignorance when I was using prestone flush. I kept flushing, running the engine till it was hot, draining and repeated the process every d

Re: [MBZ] 82 300D-T running hot after acid flush

2006-04-04 Thread Potter, Tom E
If you have rust at the water pump weep hole, coolant is escaping there (and air is possibly entering there). Change the pump. Symptoms of a bad fan clutch are overheating when not moving over ~35 mph (in traffic) and cooling down when you get the vehicle moving over ~35 mph. Continue flushing un