Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

2020-03-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Heaven in Europe is where the English are the policemen the French are the cooks the German are the mechanics the Italians are the lovers and the Swiss organize everything Hell in Europe is where the Germans are the policemen the English are the cooks

Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

2020-03-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
; From: Mercedes on behalf of Meade Dillon > via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:32:45 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Meade Dillon > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real > > I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the ext

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2020-03-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
ear. Time will tell. Rick From: Mercedes on behalf of Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:32:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Meade Dillon Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions to

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2020-03-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions to COVID-19 vs. H1N1 back in 2009. Here in the US of A, H1N1 Swine flu caused 60.8 million illnesses, 273,304 hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths. Over 200,000 probably died worldwide. Does anyone remember sealing off ou

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2020-03-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>NO vitamin C I was in Costco for Vitamin C the other day. They had plenty. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listi

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2020-03-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
4) Smoking is more common, and air pollution in Italy was much worse than the US until recently. I think both have contributed to lung damage. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 5:31 AM fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Buggered wrote: > > > 2 reasons: > > 1) The Chinese are

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2020-03-16 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Buggered wrote: > 2 reasons: > 1) The Chinese are lying about everything to do with this > disease 2) the disease has overwhelmed the ability of the > medical system to deal with the afflicted 3) a lot of people are sick and not reporting it? ___ http://www

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2020-03-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
In germany, the trains are clean, well maintained, and run on time, with efficient and courteous staff. In Italy, the trains run, mostly, except when they don't.  I am not being critical,  It is a cultural difference, and I love both, because they ARE different. One shortline haul, from Foggia

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2020-03-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
2 reasons: 1) The Chinese are lying about everything to do with this disease 2) the disease has overwhelmed the ability of the medical system to deal with the afflicted --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 15, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > What I don’t understand

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2020-03-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes higher than China, & S. Korea Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 10:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What I don’t understand about Italy is why their mortality rate from this > disease is over 7%. I get how they have an older population b

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2020-03-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
What I don’t understand about Italy is why their mortality rate from this disease is over 7%. I get how they have an older population but still. Very scary. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > You're exactly right Curt, Italians are much m

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2020-03-15 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
You're exactly right Curt, Italians are much more affectionate, and their idea of personal space is much closer than ours. Max Dillon Charleston SC Mar 15, 2020 8:22:51 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes : > Italy is a very different country from the USA and I find it difficult to > draw any conclus

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2020-03-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm not allowing myself to give in and go to the shops repeatedly. We have "enough" in fact in some stuff we've probably got too much, Angie spent some time cleaning out stuff we don't eat recently. Its easy to say "I'll just get a little more" and make yourself crazy... -Curt On Sunday, Ma

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2020-03-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Italy is a very different country from the USA and I find it difficult to draw any conclusions on how things will be here based on there. They have very little "country" or at least the way we think of it. Even out in the hinterlands people are packed into villages and interact with each other

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2020-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m giving some serious thought to going out early tomorrow morning and swinging by our local farmer’s market that opens at 4:30 am to see what’s there. They have a massive cold section with tons of fresh and frozen meat. I’m wondering what they have, and if there are any shortages. These are th

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2020-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
kiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan >> Penoff via Mercedes >> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 6:57 PM >> To: Okie Benz >> Cc: Dan Penoff >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real >> >> I didn’t find them to be competitive for cat related stuff, at least not by

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2020-03-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Which reminds me, we went to the food Co-op in Keene, NH last night. No shortages of anything that I could see although I did forget to check on TP. We did buy the only can of whipped cream but I think that was a "we're too good for canned whip cream" thing. Not many people in there and the str

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2020-03-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It is worth noting that the large majority of people infected have little to no problem at all. Symptoms reported are mostly a dry cough and they recover quickly. Reported infection rates will of course rise as testing is done, there are probably lots of folks walking around "sick" that don't r

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2020-03-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Of Dan > Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 6:57 PM > To: Okie Benz > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real > > I didn’t find them to be competitive for cat related stuff, at least not by > the > time I added in shipping. I

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2020-03-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The boy says this is worth a listen.  this one is a coupla days old, there is a newer one he says.  This doc is a former Stanford surgeon, all business no bullshit https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peter-attia-drive/id1400828889?i=1000468407666 the boy agrees on the Italy situation, an

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2020-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I didn’t find them to be competitive for cat related stuff, at least not by the time I added in shipping. If I ordered enough to hit the free shipping nut I would have been laying in six months of supplies. -D > On Mar 15, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've been o

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2020-03-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I should say that I/we will be very happy to be proven incorrect, but Italy is up to 1800 deaths from 25000 cases, which is much higher than China's reported figures. This guy is pretty close to the coal face: https://youtu.be/9mrPHO-nkVE On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 10:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

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2020-03-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I've been ordering most pet supplies from Chewy (thanks for tip Andrew). I just checked on my next subscribed order (regular scheduled monthly deliveries) and it showed delayed "out of stock." So I ordered several cases of other food that were "in stock." Within hours I got an email saying to

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2020-03-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Cat litter is scarce around here. On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 1:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I went to the World of Wally this morning much later than I usually do - > around 7:30 am (I usually go around 5:30-6:00 am). > > It was packed for that hour on a Sunday. >

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2020-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I went to the World of Wally this morning much later than I usually do - around 7:30 am (I usually go around 5:30-6:00 am). It was packed for that hour on a Sunday. I wanted to stock up on some vitamin C, despite having a week or two left, and get some kitty food. NO vitamin C. The vitamin and

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2020-03-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
yep, basically what the boy was saying with more detail.  I think I am just going to hunker in the bunker best I can, got plenty of food to minimize my need to go out (though I did go to the grocery store this morning for a few random things, it was quite busy, I think turistas and spring break

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2020-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thanks, Karl. We appreciate your candor. Dan > On Mar 15, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan asked me a couple of days ago to comment. This is the draft I had > sitting in the outbox. It tracks pretty well with what your son is saying. > My hospital is preparing for

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2020-03-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Dan asked me a couple of days ago to comment. This is the draft I had sitting in the outbox. It tracks pretty well with what your son is saying. My hospital is preparing for an overload of infectious patients in respiratory failure. We have tents up outside the ER to triage patients without exposin

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2020-03-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m like a lot of the group, barely on the fringe of the high risk tier. I walk 2-3 miles daily at least and do a fair amount of physical activity, get plenty of sleep and take 1000mg of C daily. I could eat better, but I think I do fairly well in that area. I’m not concerned about myself at thi

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2020-03-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Andrew sez: >since I am in the vulnerable age I would suspect that you are in quite good aerobic health, Andrew. Racket ball would seem to be a good sport for athletic conditioning. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieben

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2020-03-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My grown son just called from LA and threatened to move to MD to make sure I did not expose myself to crowds, since I am in the vulnerable age bracket. He also shared this sobering article about asymptomatic spreading of the virus. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-sp

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2020-03-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
No problem --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 14, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mind if I share this, if I don't attribute it to anyone specifically? I'll x > out education and work stats. > > Rick > > > ___ > http://www.okieben

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2020-03-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Mind if I share this, if I don't attribute it to anyone specifically? I'll x out education and work stats. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mai

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2020-03-14 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Floyd, You raised a good Dr boy. I think his,advice squares with the best research & policy i have read. Tinker one of those $500 MB's in the interim. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 10:07 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I am not one to get