RE: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Robert Deininger
On Sat, Feb 2, 2002 10:15 PM, Mary Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that fun? Does that sound like fun? Some hobby! George said no poaching. He said if there was a problem with exponents not being completed in a timely fashion, he would take care of it. Anybody who continues to poach

RE: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread bjb
There are two points of view here. They seem to be more or less irreconcilable. This argument repeats on a regular basis. I have to say that: (a) I agree completely that having an assignment poached is annoying to extremely offputting, especially for a relatively new user; (b) I don't see

RE: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Aaron Blosser
Well, I think that most people on the list know of my past... it's when someone does a Google search on me that I think borders on stalking. One can only wonder what you might find if you did Google searches on everyone on this list. :) Anyway... the gardening analogy doesn't pass muster.

RE: Mersenne: Work Being Wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Anurag Garg
I agree that having your exponents poached is extremely annoying and can and probably does drive away new participants. When it happens repeatedly and when the person who does it, does so repeatedly and with a clear disregard to whether the exponents are being checked in regularly or not - Mary

Re: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Mary Conner wrote: Hobbies are supposed to be fun. Poachers make it not fun. It's like a bully trashing your sand castle because you're building right where he wants to. Imagine yourself a first time GIMPS participant. [cut history of the hypothetical newbie] Hi. I'm new to GIMPS. I

Re: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Mary Conner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Maciej Hrynczyszyn wrote: Hi. I'm new to GIMPS. I recently switched from SETI@Home looking for something more solid, which probably makes me a good example for this discussion :-) This entire thread scared me a lot, I must admit. Could anybody told me - a complete newbie

RE: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Rob Reid
First, may I point out that neither GIMPS nor PrimeNet *owns* the Mersenne exponents being tested. I would posit that *anyone* is free to test *any* exponent they choose. Clearly, the purpose of GIMPS/PrimeNet is to optimize this search by assigning exponents in an orderly fashion. Both those

RE: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Aaron Blosser
Legally perhaps not (however, they are using PrimeNet in a way that violates the stated terms of usage), morally and ethically I do think (and I suspect most people would think) it is wrong. Not terribly surprising that you don't think it is, I suppose. See, it's the snide comments like

RE: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Mary Conner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Aaron Blosser wrote: Legally perhaps not (however, they are using PrimeNet in a way that violates the stated terms of usage), morally and ethically I do think (and I suspect most people would think) it is wrong. Not terribly surprising that you don't think it is,

Re: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Maciej Hrynczyszyn
Mary Conner wrote: It's very unlikely that particular exponent will get poached. But in general, the best way to avoid poachers is to avoid looking like a newbie. If you are running Prime95, set your Options--Preferences--Days between sending new end dates value lower, down to 1 if that

Re: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Mary Conner
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Maciej Hrynczyszyn wrote: But if I use 'Vacation or Holiday' option at least my completion date will be postponed? If you uncheck the computer will be on during your absence box, it should adjust your completion date. The bigger problem is that not having checked the

RE: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Aaron Blosser
Aw heck, let's just agree to disagree and shake hands. :) I'm not terribly upset, and as I mentioned before, I have far greater things in life to be concerned about than GIMPS, so I didn't mean to make a big deal of it. :) First, I would like to point out that you brought yourself into this

RE: Mersenne: Work being wasted

2002-02-03 Thread Mary Conner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Aaron Blosser wrote: Aw heck, let's just agree to disagree and shake hands. :) I'm not terribly upset, and as I mentioned before, I have far greater things in life to be concerned about than GIMPS, so I didn't mean to make a big deal of it. :) No problem with that here.