Dear list members,
What you are seeing is the first slice of Whetstone Mountains offered on eBay.
Todd Parker is one of the original Whetstone Mountains recovery team members
and the slice he is offering was recently expertly prepared by Marlin Cilz.
This slice is prepared from one of Todd's
I see.
I'm selling a part of my collection as I need to build up some funds in
preparation for an order of a lot of carbonaceous stones
from Morocco. Looks like I would need to also sell those five stones (all most
probably ordinary
chondrites - from Moroccan dealer) that I ordered last Decem
Anyways, has anyone here on the list, seen Allan Hills
76009 on ebay or for sale on another site very often?
Regards
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Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what
you're
Hi List
I am not sure but most collectors that sell Norton County meteorite would say a
46g being sold on eBay is big news. I won a 2.3g fragment from this individual
off of eBay a couple weeks ago. Here is the link to his 46g fragment, she a
beauty.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Norton-County-Meteorite
-- On Wed, 3/10/10, Mark Bowling wrote:
> It's Todd Parker (at least
> they're using his IMCA #).
>
Opps
Sorry. Don't know how I missed that
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It's Todd Parker (at least they're using his IMCA #). He is in the
monograph. I believe he found the last one that made the book (back in
December), and an earlier piece.
Pretty nice slice!
Mark B.
Vail, AZ
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From: Richard Kowalski
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I've seen some auctions of Jack's monograph that included some fragments, but
this is the first Whetstone I've seen on ebay.
I am not familiar with the seller
http://tinyurl.com/ygvxa72
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Hi Bob, AL, and Listers :)
Thank you for your comments on this topic. The book that is in question has
been posted on the Internet by a gentlemen that married Dr LaPaz daughter. He
is handling Dr LaPaz estate and in 2001 found over 500g of Norton County
meteorite in Dr LaPaz basement which 320
Hello listers
Are the meteorites "Allan Hills 76009" and "NWA 5511" rarely offered for
sale/auction? I have eight micromounts - one set of four AH and the other set
NWA 5511 (four lots of "crumbs"), that I want to offer for sale. But I want to
first make sure I'm correct in my statement about t
Hi Bob,
Haven't had time to chime in on this but wanted to. I agree with your
statements. Especially in regard to Mike Jensen's knowledge on the
subject of meteorite books and signitures. He would be the first person
I would contact If I wondered about something in a meteorite book and
is a s
Exactly - I'd hate to be the example also. Hoping that Jeff's proposal gets
some traction in the scientific community...
- Original Message
From: Jerry Flaherty
To: Mark Bowling ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 6:
Disagreement is no reason to call someone names or
Imply they are crazy or criminal.
Check the list rules.
Sincerely, Michael
On 3/10/10 1:46 AM, "bill kies" wrote:
>
> I think brevity is one of the highest forms of expression. The simple equation
> that explains much is of gre
Hi Shawn,
It's a well-known fact (there have been many studies done on it) that women
usually write with a curvier (larger loop) style than men do. That is what
Mike was referring to and I completely agree with him. The signature in
your book was probably done by a woman, but yes, there is still
True, internet "piracy", the few celebrated in the media, attempt to WARN
the public that the law has teeth. Hate to be the example
--
From: "Mark Bowling"
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:01 PM
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Simple Q
Is that I/2 of each fish and if so are we talking head or hind quarters,
dorsal or ventral, innards' or outers or half the catch? I'm just trying to
clarify for the Agency which represents the Smithsonian in these matters
Thank you
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From: "Sterl
Here's the Google Earth way to the crater:
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=884899&filename=20100309234324-4b974d9c5b6c89.58201074.kmz
Been posted on Google Earth boards as a potential
crater since 2006. It's in a Russian crater database
under the name Omeonga:
http:/
WOW! a real burner
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From: "Michael Johnson"
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:18 AM
To:
Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March
10,2010
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_10_2010.html
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Thanks Graham. Always interested in new finds, especially of such
significance.
Jerry
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From:
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:34 AM
To: "meteorite list"
Subject: [meteorite-list] Probable new impact crater
Just seen this...big one!
http:/
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
March 10, 2010
o At the Summit of Arsia Mons Volcano
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002157_1715
o Northern Hemisphere Gullies with Layers
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001528_2210
o Candidate Landing Site in Possible Salt Playa
http://hir
Greetings list.
Very interesting batch of "West Texas stony iron chondrites" here on e-bay.
Many of them look like they've been lying along a creek for a few decades.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120541335542&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Happy bidding!
Linton
Okay, tanks for settin me strate. As long as them there are doin the recognizin
we's gonna be alrite.
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Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
Elizabeth Warner wrote:
> Wow! That is some very bizarre logic Carly... Heaven-forbid you ever do
> something wrong/illegal because then we'll hol
Wow! That is some very bizarre logic Carly... Heaven-forbid you ever do
something wrong/illegal because then we'll hold your kids and grandkids
and great-grandkids accountable as well!
What matters is how the Smithsonian and other museums behave now. And
most museums are doing the right things
Liz,
It's never too late to do the right thing is it? The smith still exists. Why
should they not be held accountable for their past sins ?
Our great nation was built on doing what's right wasn't it? But, we have a
terrible track record of self policing. What voters can do is nudge them a bit
so
So you're going to hold the Smithsonian responsible for something that
happened 72 years ago?? Granted, what the reps of the Smithsonian did
way back then is not cool, but I don't think that "punishing" the
current institution is exactly fair either...
I mean, if we were to search and find som
During my investigation and hunt for the Chicora meteorite, I found out the
Smithsonian strong-armed the owners of the specimen that was found on their own
land...Stating "You must turn this over in the name of science"...And they
did...Granted, this was in 1938, but the truth of the matter is t
Does anyone live near Shreveport LA?
Greg S.
http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=12113685
Did you hear a boom Monday? It could possibly be...
Posted: Mar 09, 2010 7:30 PM PST Updated: Mar 09, 2010 7:30 PM PST
SHREVEPORT, LA (KSLA) – An enormous "boom" heard across parts of Louisiana on
Hi Jeff,
I think I speak for many when I say you are a voice of logic and
reason amidst the chaos and bickering on this issue (including my
own).
Hopefully the Meteoritical Society and IMCA will both be very vocal in
defense of common sense on this issue - this is not a time to sit
back, be silen
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/816812-scientists-find-giant-asteroid-crater-in-african-forest
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Jeff,
Again with all due respect.
You said;
"the owners get nothing and anybody who collects meteorites could be a
criminal. "
I agree with Sonny, How about 20% but of the first find only? Then they can buy
any amount they want after that.
Remember they would not even let OUR " Meteorite men"
I guess the lesson there is "careful what you wish for"!
;-) That is too funny!
- Original Message
From: Jeff Grossman
To: Meteorite-list
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 1:53:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Simple Question
I agree. 20% for the collector and 80% for the Smithsonian
Absolutely Mark,
You can make all the laws you want to govern the recovery of meteorites in
America, but without the means to enforce this, it is a toothless legislation.
On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Mark Bowling wrote:
> It is all a matter of enforcement - and they aren't enforcing it in ever
It is all a matter of enforcement - and they aren't enforcing it in every case
(probably none of them, but the potential is there). As it is now, they can't
keep the border sealed, so I doubt most feds in those districts care because
they have bigger worries. They can't keep people from dumpin
I agree. 20% for the collector and 80% for the Smithsonian. :)
On 2010-03-10 3:48 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:
Hi Jeff and list,
I just threw the number 50% out there because it seemed like a fair
compromise.
I like 20% better. :)
Sonny
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Grossman
T
What always was a discuragement to me was that I have many meteorites that are
an inch in size. Many are unclassified NWA's . Now if I were to send one to
get tested to someone who usually wants a walnut sized rock, and wants a piece
for "THE COLLECTION" What's left?
How much would the go
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:27:31 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Greg and all,
>
>Not a silly question if you like fish! Seriously, the minors who had a legal
>claim where the Old Woman was found had their meteorite taken from them. I
Well, that's your problem right there-- you can't enter into a legal agree
Hi Jeff and list,
I just threw the number 50% out there because it seemed like a fair
compromise.
I like 20% better. :)
Sonny
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From: Jeff Grossman
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Simple Que
No,
But you will have to send half of the fish,
if you catch any, to the Smithsonian...
Sterling Webb
...
And since the Smithsonian loves antiquities, you should let the fish sit
around unrefrigerated for a week or two before sending.
No really , I love the Smithso
I just threw the number 50% out there because it seemed like a fair
compromise. Trust me, collectors won't get such a deal from the federal
government on vertebrate fossils or cultural artifacts! But in this
case, everybody wins if the owner (the federal govt, representing the
people) splits
As I had said on this list a few weeks ago, the original Gold Basin team of
three gave a percentage of our first finds to the Smithsonian as that is
what the University of Arizona asked us to do and we did it willingly and
cheerfully.
Twink Monrad
Re:
I have a question to everyone who hunts F
Hi Greg and all,
Not a silly question if you like fish! Seriously, the minors who had a legal
claim where the Old Woman was found had their meteorite taken from them. I
don't know off hand if there are any other records out there of anyone else
having this happen.
Sue the dinosaur was taken
Now you're just being silly.
I have a question to everyone who hunts Federal Lands:
How many of you were FORCED... FORCED to give your meteorite(s) to the
Smithsonian?
Greg S.
> From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
> To: almi...@localnet.com; altm...@m
No,
But you will have to send half of the fish,
if you catch any, to the Smithsonian...
Sterling Webb
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From:
To: "Martin Altmann"
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-
Hi Folks,
I have an exciting announcement - I am now offering (exclusively) NWA
6026, a new carbonaceous chondrite CK5! This is a low-TKW meteorite
(244gr), and I am slicing up the main mass into whole slices and part
slices. I have specimens of this meteorite to fit every budget from
$5 to $500
[repost] Please try the links now, should be working...
Good Evening List!
I would like to draw your attention to some pretty neat Tagish Lake Display
Sets I put together last week. This is the first time I have ever offered
these and the first set of auctions will end tomorrow (Wednesday, March
Jason,
I think we differ in an essential point.
In my opinion the phase in meteoritic science and planetology of sampling
celestial bodies by the means of meteorites to understand their formation,
composition, history and to learn about the solar system and the Earth,
is not yet completed.
At le
Rob,
Thank you.
We all appreciate your hard work and generosity. Please, Keep up the good work.
Carl
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Rob Matson wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to apologize to the list and Carl for emotionally
> lashing out at him over his Lorton fall comment earlier
Jason,
Though I appreciate you enthusiasm your logic isn't that, well,
realistic for good solid scientific data, especially when it comes to
new falls which will most likely become the centerpiece of meteoritics
in the years to come. It's already BIG news every time there's a new
fall somewhe
Hi Martin and all,
Next thing you know they will be putting a stop to fishing in this country.
--AL Mitterling
Quoting Martin Altmann :
No, where did I?
Jason.
I like history. I like the Bulletins, I like modern natural science. I love
meteorites.
And, yes, I like my profession too,
a profe
Good morning Martin,
???
I'm still not too sure of what you are saying but I'm trying my best. I have
reread your post several times and I think I'm understanding more of it the
more I read it, but I'm not too sure how Jason fits into all this as I didn't
mention him at all (?). Sorry if I se
That's an unusual looking Jilin?...My piece (and most other pieces I have seen)
have a very distinct light grey fusion crust. Is this piece a later weathered
find that has been cleaned up perhaps...great shape though.
Graham E, UK
Michael Johnson wrote:
> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/M
Jason, Like I said earlier, "If worst comes to worst." I'm not saying I'm
planning on lying about tomorrow's finds but if the government starts
confiscating meteorites from state or BLM land I will.
Say you find 20 stones approx. 8 kilos. Does the Smithsonian need all 8 kilos?
NO!
You make
Martin, All,
> Not that different from Antarctic meteorites, which have lost their original
> context by the transportation by the ice.
> Nevertheless they aren't considered useless and good sums of public money
> are spent to recover them.
Right, but you're comparing apples and oranges. Yes, th
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Hi Carl2,
Not that different from Antarctic meteorites, which have lost their original
context by the transportation by the ice.
Nevertheless they aren't considered useless and good sums of public money
are spent to recover them.
I am glad, that we have NWAs - where would be in meteoritics, if w
Just seen this...big one!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8526093.stm
Graham E, UK
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Bill,
I agree, though I would note that civil disobedience for the sake of
civil disobedience - or if it flies in the face of good science and/or
sound reasoning - doesn't seem like a great idea to me.
Regardless, no, I will never sell a find, and I find your audacity to
question my statement quit
Hi Mike and List
Clearly I find it funny that your saying your book is the real deal and the one
posted on the link isn't from him. Now why do you think yours is the real deal?
You never explained where you got the book with his signature, now did you. Now
I find this to be funny. You state t
I think brevity is one of the highest forms of expression. The simple equation
that explains much is of great value.
I agree that civil disobedience is the responsibility of every good citizen.
"I have never sold or traded a find, and never will. They will all windup in an
institution."
> Of course I would carefully record my coordinates of my finds as I do now. I
> just wouldn't submit the true coordinates with the classification for fear of
> being punished for collecting meteorites on BLM or state land.
Secret data *is* lost data. If you don't tell people the truth, when
y
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