[uf-discuss] Currency microformat most important features quickpoll

Hello, I thought that to expand feedback on the Currency proposal, a simple poll would be nice, so here it is: http://www.vizu.com/poll-vote.html?n=15067 Note: choices are randomly ordered. Looking forward to your participation. Guillaume ___ micr

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Hello Scott, On 9/22/06, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: > For currencies... We could specify one standard currency -- ISO 4127 3 > letter codes -- for now (which would make these people happy). But > also think to the future

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: For currencies... We could specify one standard currency -- ISO 4127 3 letter codes -- for now (which would make these people happy). But also think to the future about if people change out minds (and don't want to use ISO 4127 anymore

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Hello Scott, On 9/21/06, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:32 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > Parsers like only having one format to work with. Let people display > what they will, the machine-readable should be consolidated. I agree. Publishers also like having o

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Hello Guillaume, On 9/21/06, Guillaume Lebleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A little detail. Shoulnd't it be: C$ ? CAD being itself an abbreviation. Not in this case. And it comes from our "definition" of what an abbreviation is An abbreviation is a less complex form of the full form. N

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Hello David, Just out of curiosity, was this inside or outside of Canada? On 9/21/06, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll just jump in here: I've worked in finance, treasury, risk management and banking for the last 10 years. I've only seen CAD used technically to refer to Canadian doll

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Hello Andy, On 9/21/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >What I'm arguing is that... we should throw an iso4127 class name in >> >there too so that other currency codes (besides ISO 4127) could be >> >

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Blogger is changing their template format. No word on hAtom [1] Regards, etc... David [1] http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/02/on-open-letter-to-blogger/ On 9/21/06, Stephen Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I definately vote picking one standard and sticking to it. As with date formats,

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On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:32 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: Parsers like only having one format to work with. Let people display what they will, the machine-readable should be consolidated. I agree. Publishers also like having only one format to work with. Peace, Scott _

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I definately vote picking one standard and sticking to it. As with date formats, this may cause problems (ie, on blogger I still can't use proper hAtom), but this is the sort of thing that may be dealt with LATER in a MATURE uF community (or at least a mature uF). Parsers like only having one for

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On 9/21/06 3:34 PM, "Guillaume Lebleu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like there are many others: > > There are various common abbreviations to distinguish the Canadian > dollar from others: while the ISO > > curren

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A little detail. Shoulnd't it be: C$ ? CAD being itself an abbreviation. BTW, I think in this context "currency" as a class name makes sense. I proposed earlier having a "currencyamount" class name that would contain a value (expressed as text or numerical) and and optionally a currency (op

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Guillaume Lebleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Looks like there are many others: > >There are various common abbreviations to distinguish the Canadian >dollar from others: while the ISO tional_Organization_for_Standardization> cu

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I'll just jump in here: I've worked in finance, treasury, risk management and banking for the last 10 years. I've only seen CAD used technically to refer to Canadian dollars and anyone, from a banking/finance _technical_ perspective, is probably mostly interested in consuming that form of currency

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Looks like there are many others: There are various common abbreviations to distinguish the Canadian dollar from others: while the ISO currency code *CAD* (a three-character c

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >What I'm arguing is that... we should throw an iso4127 class name in >> >there too so that other currency codes (besides ISO 4127) could be >> >used too without (potentially) breaking this or other Semantic HTML

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Hello, On 9/21/06, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: > Yes, I agree that we should be using ISO 4127 codes. (I guess my > original argumement has gotten lost in the blast of e-mails.) > > What I'm arguing is that... we should th

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Hello, On 9/21/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >What I'm arguing is that... we should throw an iso4127 class name in >there too so that other currency codes (besides ISO 4127) could be >used too witho

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Yes, I agree that we should be using ISO 4127 codes. (I guess my original argumement has gotten lost in the blast of e-mails.) What I'm arguing is that... we should throw an iso4127 class name in there too so that other currency codes

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >What I'm arguing is that... we should throw an iso4127 class name in >there too so that other currency codes (besides ISO 4127) could be >used too without (potentially) breaking this or other Semantic HTML >systems

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I, too, will testify that Tantek's just-the-facts-ma'am writing style >grows on one over time. I can assure you it won't grow on me; though "just the facts" would be an improvement on his recent messages. -- Andy Mabbett

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Hello Joe, On 9/21/06, Joe Andrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: > But aren't Microformats about just documenting what people > are already doing. (I.e., the "cows path" thing.) Instead > of trying to TELL THEM what they should or must be doing. > > If that's the ca

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Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: > But aren't Microformats about just documenting what people > are already doing. (I.e., the "cows path" thing.) Instead > of trying to TELL THEM what they should or must be doing. > > If that's the case, then shouldn't we be documenting and > allowing things li

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Hello, On 9/21/06, Gazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Charles Iliya Krempeaux mumbled the following on 21/09/2006 17:59: > Hello, > > On 9/21/06, Stephen Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > For example, with ISO 4127, "Canadian Dollars" has the code "CAD". >> > >> > However, I have also see

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Charles Iliya Krempeaux mumbled the following on 21/09/2006 17:59: Hello, On 9/21/06, Stephen Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, with ISO 4127, "Canadian Dollars" has the code "CAD". > > However, I have also seen the code "CDN" used for "Canadian Dollars". I don't believe 'CD

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Hello, On 9/21/06, Stephen Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, with ISO 4127, "Canadian Dollars" has the code "CAD". > > However, I have also seen the code "CDN" used for "Canadian Dollars". I don't believe 'CDN' is from a standard... it's a common misnomer I agree that no or

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For example, with ISO 4127, "Canadian Dollars" has the code "CAD". However, I have also seen the code "CDN" used for "Canadian Dollars". I don't believe 'CDN' is from a standard... it's a common misnomer ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microform

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Charles Iliya Krempeaux mumbled the following on 21/09/2006 01:30: Hello, On 9/20/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes [...] >I don't think any mention of ISO4217 is needed within the code though; >it could be accepted

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On Sep 20, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: No. You're not in a position to stipulate "requirements" (much less "required prerequisites" (sic)) of me, and your insinuations of bias are unfounded. We all have bias. I'm interested in a currency microformat because I work on several in

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Hello Andy, On 9/20/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >I don't think any mention of ISO4217 is needed within the code though; >> >it could be accepted as the default way of doing it, in the same way

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >I don't think any mention of ISO4217 is needed within the code though; >> >it could be accepted as the default way of doing it, in the same way >> >ISO8601 is used for dates, and whatever co-ordinate system is u

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Hello, On 9/20/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes [...] >I don't think any mention of ISO4217 is needed within the code though; >it could be accepted as the default way of doing it, in the same way >ISO8601 is used for

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Hello Andy, On 9/20/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I see that you documented some examples on the "currency" page on the >wiki. > >Others have mentioned existing currency formats on this thread. > >Could you p

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On 9/20/06 3:51 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I see that you documented some examples on the "currency" page on the >>> wiki. >>> >>> Others have mentioned existing currency formats on this thread. >>> >

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> >>> $ >>> 5.00 >>> >> "Dollars" is a currency. "Five Dollars" is money. > >No, money is a currency, metal is another type of currency. Dollars is >a /type/ of currency. Even if so, "Five Dollars" is still money, not curre

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On 9/20/06 3:51 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I see that you documented some examples on the "currency" page on the >> wiki. >> >> Others have mentioned existing currency formats on this thread. >> >> Could you please create the following pages and fill them out? >> >> http:/

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Andy Mabbett mumbled the following on 20/09/2006 23:59: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Usually, when talking about currency, the word 'type' is used (see xe.com) It may be used sometimes,; often, even, but is it "usual"? I and people I know are far more like

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

IFX, a retail banking standard, uses Currency Code ("CurCode") instead of "type" following the ISO4217 3-letter currency code, and Currency Amount ("CurAmt") instead of money or currency. So it would be: USD 5.00 Guillaume Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I may be a similar discussion; sorry. "I may be mis-remembering..." -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: Free Our Data:

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Sep 20, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >>> >>> 42.67 >>> >>> >>> Isn't this suggesting that "42.67" is an abbreviation for "USD"? >> >> I've commented before that microformats already "misuse" in >>this >

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I've not been following this thread closely, so apologies if this has >already been dismissed. Andy, or whoever, feel free to add any relevant >parts to the brainstorming page. Noted, and thank you. >Usually, when talking about cu

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I see that you documented some examples on the "currency" page on the >wiki. > >Others have mentioned existing currency formats on this thread. > >Could you please create the following pages and fill them out? > > http://micr

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Charles Iliya Krempeaux mumbled the following on 20/09/2006 22:38: > $5.00 So a class name like "currency-symbol" or "currency_symbol" would be better. I've not been following this thread closely, so apologies if this has already been dismissed. Andy, or whoever, feel free to add any rel

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On Sep 20, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: 42.67 Isn't this suggesting that "42.67" is an abbreviation for "USD"? I've commented before that microformats already "misuse" in this way. Where is that? I don't remember seeing anything like this, where one piece of informat

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Andy, I see that you documented some examples on the "currency" page on the wiki. Others have mentioned existing currency formats on this thread. Could you please create the following pages and fill them out? http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-examples http://microformats.org/wiki/curren

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Hello Andy, On 9/20/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I didn't completely follow all of the last currency thread. (Got busy >at work, and lost track of the thread.) I think it meandered somewhat...

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I didn't completely follow all of the last currency thread. (Got busy >at work, and lost track of the thread.) I think it meandered somewhat... >But here's what we are doing... >Something that renders as... > >

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >looks very good - nice and simple and functional :) Thank you. -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: Free Our Data:

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > 42.67 > > >Isn't this suggesting that "42.67" is an abbreviation for "USD"? I've commented before that microformats already "misuse" in this way. >More generally, if the currency isn't published anywhere, doesn't

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Hello Andy, I didn't completely follow all of the last currency thread. (Got busy at work, and lost track of the thread.) But here's what we are doing... Something that renders as... $5.00 Would have the markup... $5.00 Also... I add the following style right in there to... style="te

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

looks very good - nice and simple and functional :) On 9/20/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The proposal for a 'currency' microformat, for marking-up amounts of money, seems moribund. This is unfortunate, as a number of other formats (hListing, job, hReview, book, etc.), might make

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On Sep 20, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I have, therefore, put up a "straw-man" proposal, at:

[uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

The proposal for a 'currency' microformat, for marking-up amounts of money, seems moribund. This is unfortunate, as a number of other formats (hListing, job, hReview, book, etc.), might make use of it. I have, therefore, put up a "straw-man" proposal, at:

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

As I understand the uf principles[1] "further development of the microformat" shouldn't be a goal in itself. Further development of some practical solution to some real problem should be the goal. Sure, it shouldn't be a goal in itself - but in this case I am confident there will be further iss

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >The problem of having the ‘USD’ inside a class attribute is that this >hides the data from humans. For "$50", the context may make the currency apparent (to a human, at least). [...] >£abbr>50 Again, if "£" is an abbreviatio

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> Ben's original statement of the problem, somebody asks >> "$50" for an item, but is that US? Canadian? Australian? >> Why not just write: >> $50 >> or >> 50 USD > >I'm wondering if a currency sign/symbol is technically an >a

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--- Ben Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the reason for a container beyond that is to associate > the unit > with the number and to associate the unit with a > standard. Plus it > allows for further development of the microformat. As I understand the uf principles[1] "further development

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On 20 Jul 2006, at 07:27, Ben Buchanan wrote: So... I think $50 would work as a shorthand. It defines a) we're talking about money - ISO standard implied, b) we're talking about the USD variety, c) we're talking fifty units of that money, d) a parser could work out the numbers and the symbol

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Ben's original statement of the problem, somebody asks "$50" for an item, but is that US? Canadian? Australian? Why not just write: $50 or 50 USD I'm wondering if a currency sign/symbol is technically an abbreviation, since the sign/symbol stands for the complete concept "dollar". Anyway, it's p

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--- Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it has not yet been shown by sufficient research > that a "currency at > this *historical* point in time" is a problem worthy of a > solving with a microformat. Absolutely. A lot more work needs to be done. To take Ben's original statement

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

On Jul 19, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Michael Leikam wrote: I wasn't aware that we had collectively settled on a problem definition or had moved on to solving anything. If I've missed the cutoff, please consider my comments and suggestions as late brainstorming. I for one am interested in how to clearl

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Then Consider providing multiple translations of one price in different amounts... >How does considering this help us define the currency of the prices >presented? It looks like we just strayed from marking up currency to >marking up exchange rates. You're right, it doesn't help. Defining the

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I think it has not yet been shown by sufficient research that a >"currency at this *historical* point in time" is a problem worthy of a >solving with a microformat. Google finds: about 58,500 for "worth" "in modern t

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On 7/19/06 3:33 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> Something like: >> >>6 to >>20 >>shillings > > Ack! That should be: > > 6 to > 20 > shillings Criticisms: 1. A

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Michael, I think it has not yet been shown by sufficient research that a "currency at this *historical* point in time" is a problem worthy of a solving with a microformat. Whether or not there is any specific interest on any of our parts to clearly mark something up, there needs to be research do

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Scott, I wasn't aware that we had collectively settled on a problem definition or had moved on to solving anything. If I've missed the cutoff, please consider my comments and suggestions as late brainstorming. I for one am interested in how to clearly mark up "6 shillings" or "5 dollars" when th

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Something like: > >6 to >20 >shillings Ack! That should be: 6 to 20 shillings -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards:

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Casciano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >[1] how would one proposed to mark up the string "6 to 20 shillings >per week" so that both values could be addressed with the appropriate >measurement unit? Something like: 6 to 20 shillings the a

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

On Jul 19, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Then Consider providing multiple translations of one price in different amounts... How does considering this help us define the currency of the prices presented? It look

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On Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:34 Andy Mabbett wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Ganz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >I got the page kicked off by capturing a few examples in the > wild and > >some of the brainstorming that took place here on the list. > > Oddly, you seem to have ov

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How about using a timestamp/effective date? If enabling exchange rate and value-over-time calculations is a goal for a currency uf, I think we'll find them essential. -ml --- Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy > Mabbett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

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On Jul 19, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Consider a defunct currency Example: http://charlesdickenspage.com/works.html a novel cost 31 shillings in 1836, average worker earned 6 to 20

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Consider a defunct currency Example: http://charlesdickenspage.com/works.html a novel cost 31 shillings in 1836, average worker earned 6 to 20 shillings per week) but a monthly installment, 32 pages

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> Then Consider providing multiple translations of one price in >> different amounts... > >How does considering this help us define the currency of the prices >presented? It looks like we just strayed from marking up currency

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Ganz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I got the page kicked off by capturing a few examples in the wild and >some of the brainstorming that took place here on the list. Oddly, you seem to have overlooked my comments. -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to co

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

On Jul 19, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Ben Buchanan wrote: So, the problem we're trying to solve is how to have pages *define* the currency of the prices presented. Implication and guesses are too open for error, with high potential consequences. Okay, that looks to me more like a simple, clear prob

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

[Gack. Sorry about the name mixup, twitchy email setting. Reposted to clarify who's talking.] Hi all, Wow, lots of discussion :) I'll respond to a few points in one, hope that's ok with everyone. 1) Language/currency - Not all countries have a single currency in circulation - Not all countrie

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

Hi all, Wow, lots of discussion :) I'll respond to a few points in one, hope that's ok with everyone. 1) Language/currency - Not all countries have a single currency in circulation - Not all countries have a single language in use - Not all speakers of a specific language will use a specific cu

RE: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

On July 18, 2006 12:08 PM, Ryan King wrote: > On Jul 17, 2006, at 11:24 PM, Ben Buchanan wrote: > > The classic problem example would be a page stating a price > of "$50". > > Is that Australian dollars? US dollars? Monopoly money? :) > > > > So anyway I'm following The Process > > (http://micro

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

On Jul 17, 2006, at 11:24 PM, Ben Buchanan wrote: Hi all, A recent discussion with a travelling friend has sparked some ideas about a microformat for displaying prices and other currency-based figures. The classic problem example would be a page stating a price of "$50". Is that Australian dol

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Maybe something like... > > Pay me $5.00 now! > >Although something like the the following might be better... > > Pay me title="CAD">$5.00 now! To me, the latter is better, because the number is included in the

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >The classic problem example would be a page stating a price of "$50". >Is that Australian dollars? US dollars? Monopoly money? :) It seems to me that the issues with currency (whether or not microformats are involved) are, or

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat, or numbers with units

On 7/18/06 8:10 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote: > >> It'd be pretty neat to have a browser widget that converted all the >> USD prices on an American site into their equivalent GBP on mouseover, >> or something along those lines.

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On 7/18/06, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It already is pretty neat: http://viewmycurrency.wordpress.com/about/ http://nybblelabs.org.uk/projects/exchequer http://6v8.gamboni.org/Greasemonkey-Yahoo-Finance.html Which prompts the question: what exactly is the problem we're trying to sol

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On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote: It'd be pretty neat to have a browser widget that converted all the USD prices on an American site into their equivalent GBP on mouseover, or something along those lines. It already is pretty neat: http://viewmycurrency.wordpress.com/about/

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On 7/18/06, Ciaran McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or, a more complex example with multiple languages: [...] Sorry, screwed this up a bit. I meant to demonstrate different number formatting. Price: £ 1,250.00 (Prix: 1600,00 € ) ___ microf

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On 7/18/06, Mike Stickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since there can be a difference between different languages within countries I thought it might be a good idea to include that in the "currency" definition of the formating, eg., "CAD eng" or "CAD fr". If you need to specify the language, for

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I may be totally out in left field because I haven't really studied up on the wiki as much as I should have but wouldn't something like this make more sense in terms of a currency microformat: $abbr>5.00 In this format the wrapping would be "money" or something similar followed by either

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"Arve Bersvendsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Den kanadiske prisen på t-skjorten var class="currency CAD">34 $. I like this idea. The earlier based one was good too. > You could of course also complicate this further by using inline elements > to separate value from symbol. There's n

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:12:11 +0200, Ben Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 18 Jul 2006, at 07:24, Ben Buchanan wrote: The classic problem example would be a page stating a price of "$50". Is that Australian dollars? US dollars? Monopoly money? :) This is certainly a worthy cause, but to play d

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On 18 Jul 2006, at 07:24, Ben Buchanan wrote: The classic problem example would be a page stating a price of "$50". Is that Australian dollars? US dollars? Monopoly money? :) This is certainly a worthy cause, but to play devil's advocate for a moment, could pure HTML be sufficient? My new T

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On 7/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe something like... Pay me $5.00 now! Something along these lines would be pretty sensible IMO Some other things to consider... there might be an implicit currency that comes with what's defined in the HTML "lang" attribu

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Hello, Here's a handy list of ISO 4217 codes... http://www.xe.com/iso4217.htm Also, here's an example of the "$" being used in (Canadian) French... https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=fr_CA Note the placement of the dollar sign AFTER the number. The same page in (USA)

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Hello, (Hopefully this will get to the mailing... haven't been able to get through in a while. But we'll see) I'm actually working on a globalization of currencies project right now. (And have dealt with this issue in the past too.) For us, each user of the system has a specified locale. (Lik

[uf-discuss] Currency microformat

Hi all, A recent discussion with a travelling friend has sparked some ideas about a microformat for displaying prices and other currency-based figures. The classic problem example would be a page stating a price of "$50". Is that Australian dollars? US dollars? Monopoly money? :) So anyway I'm