Re: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities

2008-01-05 Thread Jim O'Donnell
On 5 Jan 2008, at 20:07, Andy Mabbett wrote: I don't, if hcard will do the job. But I also have to be able to mark up the phrase 'William Hamilton's wife' with the name 'Emma Hamilton', using the same set of classes, to indicate that she's also a person. If her name is elsewhere on the p

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities

2008-01-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >He may well have signed personal letters simply as "James". In which case: James Though presumably your pages would have an introduction, or at elast a heading, giving his name as "James

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities

2008-01-05 Thread Jim O'Donnell
On 5 Jan 2008, at 16:07, Andy Mabbett wrote: Sorry, I should have been clearer. What I want to do, in terms of marking up content, is determined by how people are going to use the web site. Yes, but you don't know how people are going to use it. Yes I do. If I'm building an archive of doc

[uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities

2008-01-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On 4 Jan 2008, at 18:29, Andy Mabbett wrote: the exact microformat I'd use depends on what I want to do with the names in the end, more than their semantics. But that's dependent on what *you"* want to do. If you us

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentativeproposal...)

2008-01-05 Thread Jim O'Donnell
On 4 Jan 2008, at 18:29, Andy Mabbett wrote: On the names thing, I suppose I could be tagging something with the name "John Smith", in which case I'd use rel-tag, or making "John Smith" available to be downloaded as a vcard, in which case I'd use hcard. The semantics of "John Smith" haven

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentativeproposal...)

2008-01-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I wrote a long-ish reply to Andy's post, but I think it vanished into the mysterious SMTP aether. My sincere apologies if this is double-posted. It arrived here, via the mailing list, but the content is subtly dif

[uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentative proposal...)

2008-01-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes We used TEI-Lite years ago, to digitise an archive of papers relating to the explorer Matthew Flinders. Specifically, we wanted to index papers according to people, places, ships etc. mentioned in those letters. Th

RE: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentativeproposal...)

2008-01-04 Thread j...@eatyourgreens.org.uk
in the HTML version of the letter. There's some discussion of this question on Semantic Humanities: http://semantichumanities.wordpress.com/2006/08/26/when-is-semantic-html-not -important/ Jim Original Message: - From: Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 00:

RE: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentativeproposal...)

2008-01-04 Thread j...@eatyourgreens.org.uk
m, but with regard to RDF too: http://semantichumanities.wordpress.com/2006/08/26/when-is-semantic-html-not -important/ Jim Original Message: - From: Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 00:34:35 +0000 To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject: [uf-discuss]

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities

2008-01-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Andy Mabbett wrote: The hCard spec says that: hCard is a simple, open, distributed format for representing people, companies, organizations, and places, using a 1:1 representation of vCard (RFC2426) properties and values note that's NOT: hCard is a 1:1 represen

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentative proposal...)

2008-01-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Reference strings, in TEI markup at least, can also refer to the names >of books, ships, plays, films and pretty much anything that can be >given a name. hCard works for people and places, but is it general >enough to cove

[uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentative proposal...)

2008-01-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> For clarity, the former can be distilled to: >> >> hCard is for representing people, companies, organizations, >>and >> places >Reference strings, in TEI markup at least, can also refer to the names >of b

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentative proposal...)

2008-01-03 Thread Jim O'Donnell
On 3 Jan 2008, at 23:04, Andy Mabbett wrote: For clarity, the former can be distilled to: hCard is for representing people, companies, organizations, and places Reference strings, in TEI markup at least, can also refer to the names of books, ships, plays, films and pre

[uf-discuss] hCard to represent simple entities (was: Tentative proposal...)

2008-01-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Guillaume Lebleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Andy Mabbett wrote: >> Because they're the most appropriate semantics; >I don't agree with that, but I'm not going to argue about it. >> and because people are already using the long-hand version of hCard >>to do so. >>