Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-04 Thread Ashok
Amit, Do you follow any meeting frequency at center level? If yes, and if you follow a bi-weekly meeting at center, for those clients will you give loan products with frequency weekly or monthly? What I understood from your JLG workflow is, once the actual disbursement is done (not tied up with

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-04 Thread Ashok
Amit, There is a small correction with meeting dates, as per example the next 4 meeting dates would be 15th Apr, 29th Apr, 13th May and 27th May. Regards Ashok On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Ashok as...@confluxtechnologies.comwrote: Amit, Do you follow any meeting frequency at center

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-04 Thread Ashok
Hi All Few more facts about the meeting calendar 1. A JLG loan can be created with a meeting calendar or independent of a meeting calendar where organizations don’t want to follow any center/group meeting dates but rely on loan product frequency. e.g. If a loan product is bi-weekly and

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Ashok
Hi Amit, Right now I don't have much details about the workbook or workflow of group lending process used in GK, we tried to add existing features from Mifos. The Center and Group functionality in MifosX covers very basic, it requires lot of improvements. @Binny, do you have any details of GK's

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Binny Gopinath
Ashok, Keith, I would suggest to keep this configurable at the product level. When defining the loan product, we have a flag that states whether the loan disbursement should coincide with the meeting date or not. Also, if we implement the validation in the UI, then there is the risk of different

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Keith Woodlock
Binny, At the platform level we are going to support maximum flexibility so we havent built in contraints like the disbursement one mentioned above exactly for the reasons you outlined - its not clear to me if GK really want this also (but they might). Allowing the client app built on top of the

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread AMIT JAIN
Hello, Well I proposed It should be decided with the product instead of at the time of center creation. As soon as loan is disbursed (if weekly) system will asks you the next meeting date after disbursement which is not more than a moratorium period then after seven days. Thanks and regards AMIT

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Ashok
Binny, b) Will it be possible to disburse 2 loans products of 2 different disbursement/repayment frequencies to a customer who belongs to a group? For ex. customer has a JLG loan which is disbursed and re-paid at meetings and there is an Emergency loan which is disbursed and repaid outside of the

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Binny Gopinath
Ashok, This is the input from GK: In case of many products perhaps most group loans, we may continue to disburse on meeting date, but the process is inflexible today as we do not have any other choice. This should be something that can be defined at administrative level. On the system, the

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Ashok
Binny, I can see there are two parts for JLG loans. 1. Users do not want to tie disbursement date with meeting date and want interest calculation should start from the date of actual disbursement. 2. Loan repayment should follow the meeting dates i.e. on center/ group meeting dates.

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread AMIT JAIN
Right On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Ashok as...@confluxtechnologies.com wrote: Binny, I can see there are two parts for JLG loans. 1. Users do not want to tie disbursement date with meeting date and want interest calculation should start from the date of actual disbursement.

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Binny Gopinath
Yes. Agree. However, on the UI would like to default the date to a meeting date to make data entry easier. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:18 PM, AMIT JAIN amitjain@gmail.com wrote: Right On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Ashok as...@confluxtechnologies.comwrote: Binny, I can see there are

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Nayan Ambali
Binny, Ashok, a) Actual disbursement happens on a non-meeting date - Examples: Disbursement is done at the branch and not at the center meetings Or There is a loan product where a vendor supplies goods (like solar lamp or water purifier) to the MFI customer and the once

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread Ashok
Nayan, Current implementation is having a check for disbursement date which we need to remove (mainly in UI). And also we are thinking of removing first repayment date for JLG loans, once the actual disbursement happens then first repayment should fall on the next available meeting date. (grade

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-03 Thread AMIT JAIN
Hello to all, Please note that every loan is having a repayment period like some scheduled on weekly, bi-weekly, monthly so on. The important point is when will you give the money to any debtor and after giving such money you schedule his repayments likes if you give weekly product the repayment

[Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-02 Thread Ed Cable
Ashok, Thanks for the demo today of the group lending functionalities in Mifos X. I was concerned about the inability to select a disbursement date outside of the meeting date. Isn't this a limitation from legacy Mifos that we were seeking to remove? I understand that if a client doesn't

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-02 Thread Keith Woodlock
Ed, As far as i understand this is a 'constraint' put in on the ui side (although it looked like theres a check on it in the backend) for JLG loans. That is you can still choose any disbursement date you like for 'individual loans' and as you say most people from group context will want that

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-02 Thread Ashok
Hi Ed, Whatever Keith has mentioned is correct, thanks Keith. Most of the restrictions are on UI, based on new requirements and user inputs we can add more flexibility to group lending APIs. Soon I will be talking to Binny on GK requirements that should cover most of the common scenarios.

Re: [Mifos-users] Question on Disbursement Date Limitations from Mifos X Group Lending Demo

2013-05-02 Thread AMIT JAIN
Hello Ashok, Can you sahre a group lending process workbook or workflow with me after that I am able to understand the process at MIFOS-X. Might be there methodology is different from us. Let me understand first. Thanks and Regards On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Ashok