[Mimedefang] Adding X-Received-ASN header

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
Just saw this on the SA mailing list: Does anybody have code for MD to add the required header so SA can run the Bayes machine against it? ___ Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.canit.ca MIMEDefang ma

[Mimedefang] Re: MIMEDefang Digest, Vol 11, Issue 28

2004-08-10 Thread Paul Russell
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Ben Kamen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Er, oo... Well, in that case, let me introduce you to Mr. "Reply-To:" field. Can't help ya there.. that is a problem. But the reply-to: would fix that. For a good time, try introducing a Eudora user to the concept of a reply-to header. -- P

Re: [Mimedefang] Graphdefang + High CPU Load when processing

2004-08-10 Thread John Kirkland
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Rich West wrote: Just curious, but what, exactly, does the --trim option do? The documentation states that it cuts out old data from the SummaryDB, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of graphdefang when looking for longer-term trends and such? You should use the "--trim" opti

RE: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Tony Nelson
Quoting Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 14:10, Richard Laager wrote: > > > If a potential customer sends you a message through a public access > > point and their domain has SPF enabled and doesn't list that access > > point as a valid relay, is that you fault? No, it's

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Ben Kamen
Cor Bosman wrote: That's just it - if your sales guy is at hotel with his laptop, he could use AUTH/STARTTLS and actually relay through his company's mail server. Thus the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be delivered by mail.acmewidgets.com to where it needed to go... SPF would be valid. This

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Ben Kamen
Er, oo... Well, in that case, let me introduce you to Mr. "Reply-To:" field. Can't help ya there.. that is a problem. But the reply-to: would fix that. :) Les Mikesell wrote: On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 14:10, Richard Laager wrote: If a potential customer sends you a message through a public access poi

RE: [Mimedefang] Help with removing files with names defined in bad_exts

2004-08-10 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Matthew.van.Eerde wrote: > David Reta wrote: >> I would like to remove certain named zip files from emails >> but I don't wan't to discard all zip files since we use them. >> I tried to add the whole filename to bad_exts but this does >> not work. Is there somewhere else in the filter I can add >>

RE: [Mimedefang] Help with removing files with names defined in bad_exts

2004-08-10 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
> {if (lc $badfilename eq $entity) Should be {if (lc $badfilename eq lc $entity) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.canit.ca MIMEDefang mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [Mimedefang] Help with removing files with names defined in bad_exts

2004-08-10 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
David Reta wrote: > I would like to remove certain named zip files from emails > but I don't wan't to discard all zip files since we use them. > I tried to add the whole filename to bad_exts but this does > not work. Is there somewhere else in the filter I can add > this or do I need to add my own

[Mimedefang] Help with removing files with names defined in bad_exts

2004-08-10 Thread David Reta
I would like to remove certain named zip files from emails but I don't wan't to discard all zip files since we use them. I tried to add the whole filename to bad_exts but this does not work. Is there somewhere else in the filter I can add this or do I need to add my own code to the re_match func

RE: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 14:10, Richard Laager wrote: > If a potential customer sends you a message through a public access > point and their domain has SPF enabled and doesn't list that access > point as a valid relay, is that you fault? No, it's their > administrator's fault for setting up restrict

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Cor Bosman
> >Let's say that I work for a hypothetical ACME Widgets, Inc. My e-mail > >address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] A potential customer, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED], tries to send me an e-mail message from his laptop > >using a public access point in his hotel. The network he's on is not > >listed as an allowed rel

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Brenden Conte
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 13:55, Daniel Taylor wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Say your potential client sends the same e-mail from the same location > and your spam filter sidelines it because it triggered a couple minor > SA rules and was from a blackholed IP range. > > N

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Ben Kamen
Richard Laager wrote: Example: Let's say that I work for a hypothetical ACME Widgets, Inc. My e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] A potential customer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], tries to send me an e-mail message from his laptop using a public access point in his hotel. The network he's on is not listed a

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscope*

2004-08-10 Thread Ben Kamen
Cor Bosman wrote: How about "scaling"? I'm pretty sure my ISP will run (screaming, no doubt), from a scenario in which they rely on their customers to keep their list of valid addresses current. If your ISP allows you to have mail servers behind theirs and they are the "front line MX" and forward

RE: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Richard Laager wrote: > If a potential customer sends you a message through a public access > point and their domain has SPF enabled and doesn't list that access > point as a valid relay, is that you fault? No, it's their > administrator's fault for setting up restrictive SPF

RE: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Richard Laager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Put a price tag on that. If you are selling a product, how many > dollars worth of orders are you willing to discard because the > potential customer sent a request for information through a > public access point instead of their own ISP? If a pot

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscope*

2004-08-10 Thread Cor Bosman
> > How about "scaling"? I'm pretty sure my ISP will run (screaming, no > > doubt), from a scenario in which they rely on their customers to keep > > their list of valid addresses current. > > If your ISP allows you to have mail servers behind theirs and they are > the "front line MX" and forward

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Daniel Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Les Mikesell wrote: | On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 09:12, Dave Williss wrote: | | |>You mean like an employee on the road using a hotel's ISP or at a |>wireless hotspot connecting back to your mail server to send mail |>as from your company? _Make_ them use a

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscope*

2004-08-10 Thread Jeff Rife
On 10 Aug 2004 at 9:04, Graham Dunn wrote: > > There is no reason a backup MX server can't know if an address is valid > > or not. > > How about "scaling"? I'm pretty sure my ISP will run (screaming, no > doubt), from a scenario in which they rely on their customers to keep > their list of valid

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Ben Kamen
Les Mikesell wrote: On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 09:12, Dave Williss wrote: You mean like an employee on the road using a hotel's ISP or at a wireless hotspot connecting back to your mail server to send mail as from your company? _Make_ them use authentication. Put a price tag on that. If you are sell

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscope*

2004-08-10 Thread Jeff Rife
On 10 Aug 2004 at 9:00, Joseph Brennan wrote: > --On Monday, August 9, 2004 11:17 PM -0400 Jeff Rife <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> At the core, this solution ignores the concept and purpose of a backup MX > >> which is a reality and necessity for many companies where email is > >> critical

RE: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscop e*

2004-08-10 Thread Jeff Rife
On 10 Aug 2004 at 7:59, Damrose, Mark wrote: > Yes, but you can't get all the deliverable addresses - e.g. > system addresses such as postmaster and abuse. Those could be added "manually" to the list after the export. > I also don't know > of any w

Re: [Mimedefang] adding in x-header

2004-08-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Lucas Albers wrote: > When you add in a new x-header, at what point is the x-header part of the > message? If you mean adding the header with action_add_header(), it doesn't happen until after MIMEDefang returns control to Sendmail. If you want SpamAssassin to see the header

Re: [Mimedefang] Graphdefang + High CPU Load when processing

2004-08-10 Thread Sven Schuster
Hi Rich, On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 12:34:00PM -0400, Rich West told us: > handle at any one point in time. This resolved the problem, but, now, > 10 months later, we have seen that graphdefang has started spiking the > CPU for a minute or more as it processes (this is a new problem for > us).

[Mimedefang] adding in x-header

2004-08-10 Thread Lucas Albers
When you add in a new x-header, at what point is the x-header part of the message? I have a network test nd would like to add a x-header so spamassassin can use the result as a bayesian check. Don't I need to do some sort of message_rebuild before calling the sa check? -- Luke Computer Science

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 09:12, Dave Williss wrote: > You mean like an employee on the road using a hotel's ISP or at a > wireless hotspot connecting back to your mail server to send mail > as from your company? _Make_ them use authentication. Put a price tag on that. If you are selling a product,

Re: [Mimedefang] Graphdefang + High CPU Load when processing

2004-08-10 Thread Rich West
Ya know, I was considering the very same thing. My backup server does basically nothing throughout the day (it only runs backups), which makes it a great candidate. :) Just curious, but what, exactly, does the --trim option do? The documentation states that it cuts out old data from the Summa

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Cor Bosman
> > > Let's say that the SPF record for futuresource.com says that the > > > allowed relay is mail.futuresource.com. This means that mail coming > > > from mail.futuresource.com (as the relay) is legitimate and that all > > > other mail is likely to be forged. Now, why would > > > mail.futuresource

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Dave Williss wrote: > You mean like an employee on the road using a hotel's ISP or at a > wireless hotspot connecting back to your mail server to send mail > as from your company? _Make_ them use authentication. Ironically enough, Dave Williss's original message was held in

Re: [Mimedefang] [resend] Specfile bug: disables service on update

2004-08-10 Thread Kris Deugau
"David F. Skoll" wrote: > Off topic: I hate RPM! Hah. Try making sense of Debian's dpkg packaging system sometime. *crosses eyes* Oy vey. RPM is clear as glass by comparison. > Does anyone have a *good* document where > all this stuff is documented? Half the stuff in .spec files seems to >

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscop e*

2004-08-10 Thread Graham Dunn
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 09:26:26AM -0400, Graham Dunn wrote: > > http://pochacco.dnsalias.net/~gdunn/extract-exchange-55-20040810.tar.gz > Forgot to add that you'll need to add whatever you have in @mx_domains to your "relay-dom

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Ben Kamen
Dave Williss wrote: What about people that have access through another company with one of your domains but they arent using your mailserver with authentication? You mean like an employee on the road using a hotel's ISP or at a wireless hotspot connecting back to your mail server to send mail as

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Dave Williss
- Original Message - From: "Cor Bosman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:06 AM Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records > > Let's say that the SPF record for futuresource.com says that the > > allowed relay is mail.futuresource.com.

RE: [Mimedefang] How to verify that Network tests are working for spamassassin

2004-08-10 Thread Rob
Stephen J Smoogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] danced on the keyboard and produced: > I installed MIMEDefang/Spamassassin/Razor2/DCC > > and set $SALocalTestsOnly = 0; in my filter file Where? If it's after SA is called it won't have any effect - best to put it in at the top. When you run it from the com

Re: [Mimedefang] md_check_against_smtp_server

2004-08-10 Thread Bill Maidment
Bill Maidment wrote: Hi I'm trying to use md_check_against_smtp_server to check the email recipient against valid users on another mail server. The problem I have is that invalid recipients cause the incoming email to continually bounce between my two mail servers. Valid recipients work fine!

[Mimedefang] Re: outgoing mail copy - OT

2004-08-10 Thread Matt Pusateri
> Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:07:23 +0100 > From: Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Mimedefang] Re: outgoing mail copy > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:42:26 +0500, Muhammad Talha

[Mimedefang] How to verify that Network tests are working for spamassassin

2004-08-10 Thread Sherifd30
I installed MIMEDefang/Spamassassin/Razor2/DCC and set $SALocalTestsOnly = 0; in my filter file and in sa-mimedefang.cf: use_dcc 1 dcc_timeout 10 dcc_path /usr/local/bin/dccproc But still when I send a test spam Email GTUBE from yahoo to me I get it detected as spam because of local tests only a

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscop e*

2004-08-10 Thread Graham Dunn
du address, but you can't use it to search for @elgin.cc.il.us. > [del] I have this running ... it gets secondary email addresses as well (you have to bind as a user with admin access in exchange - not neccessarily the same account as domain admin). http://pochacco.dnsalias.net/~gdunn/extrac

Re: [Mimedefang] [resend] Specfile bug: disables service on update

2004-08-10 Thread Stephen J Smoogen
David F. Skoll wrote: Off topic: I hate RPM! Does anyone have a *good* document where all this stuff is documented? Half the stuff in .spec files seems to be undocumented magic. Sorry.. I know most of my RPM via just working on them over and over and over again. I read Maximum RPM a long time ag

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscop e*

2004-08-10 Thread Peter A. Cole
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:59:56 -0500 "Damrose, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but you can't get all the deliverable addresses - e.g. > system addresses such as postmaster and abuse. I also don't know > of any way to do this automatically. I really don't want this to > be a manual process,

RE: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscop e*

2004-08-10 Thread Damrose, Mark
> -Original Message- > From: Peter A. Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > In Exchange 5.5, probably the easiest way would be to export > your Directory Store as a csv file. In Exchange > Administrator, go to Tools then Directory Export. You can > select all items including mailboxes, cust

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscope*

2004-08-10 Thread Graham Dunn
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:17:41PM -0400, Jeff Rife wrote: > On 9 Aug 2004 at 21:03, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > > > If the receiving MX servers always knew all valid recipient addresses > > > *at (E)SMTP connection time*, then there would be no bounces...only > > > rejections. > > > > > > This so

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscope*

2004-08-10 Thread Joseph Brennan
--On Monday, August 9, 2004 11:17 PM -0400 Jeff Rife <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At the core, this solution ignores the concept and purpose of a backup MX which is a reality and necessity for many companies where email is critical. I dispute this statement. If the MX host is configured differen

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscop e*

2004-08-10 Thread Peter A. Cole
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 06:44:43 -0500 "Damrose, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exchange 5.5 is a tough nut. That's what I have. > > Under the default lookup, you can only search on a primary e-mail > address. All of my users have @elgin.edu addresses, but many of > them also have @elgin.cc

[Mimedefang] MUA for multiple senders

2004-08-10 Thread WBrown
The other day someone asked about an MUA that would support sending from different addresses. Last night I was looking at my Mozilla Thunderbird setup where I have my primary home accoount, as well as my rarely used ISP email account configured in the same client. If I selected the inbox for

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Daniel Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David F. Skoll wrote: | On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Daniel Taylor wrote: | | |>All SPF-Pass means is that the e-mail came from an authorized |>sender for the domain in question. | | | Right. SPF is *not* an anti-spam technology. | Oh no, not again. This is why

RE: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records *long w/morbid horoscop e*

2004-08-10 Thread Damrose, Mark
> -Original Message- > From: Lucas Albers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I tried to get read the ldap address book entries from my internal > exchange server (5.5) but I could never get it to work. > I couldn't justify the effort as I'm don't really see it as a > big deal at > this point. >

Re: [Mimedefang] outgoing mail copy

2004-08-10 Thread Jan Pieter Cornet
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 01:42:26PM +0500, Muhammad Talha wrote: > Dear all > > Is it possible with mimedefang to copy outgoing mails from specific user to > be copied to some other account. Sure. sub filter_begin { if ( $Sender =~ /^<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?$/i ) { add_recipient( '[EMAIL

Re: [Mimedefang] Bounce and redirect, what am I doing wrong

2004-08-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Tory Blue wrote: > This should work, as the docs say that action_bounce does not discard the > message. So what this below is doing, is action_bounce prevents delivery of the message, so it won't work. If you want to return a failure code to the sender *and* still deliver the

Re: [Mimedefang] Re: outgoing mail copy

2004-08-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Dave Smith wrote: > > Is it possible with mimedefang to copy outgoing mails from specific user to > > be copied to some other account. > Try milter-bcc, from http://www.snert.com/Software/milter-bcc/index.shtml But it's a one-liner in MIMEDefang. Put this in filter_begin or

[Mimedefang] Re: outgoing mail copy

2004-08-10 Thread Dave Smith
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:42:26 +0500, Muhammad Talha wrote: > Dear all > > Is it possible with mimedefang to copy outgoing mails from specific user to > be copied to some other account. > is there any other solution ?? > > Regards > > M. Talha Try milter-bcc, from http://www.snert.com/Software/

Re: [Mimedefang] Deadline for SPF records

2004-08-10 Thread Cor Bosman
> Let's say that the SPF record for futuresource.com says that the > allowed relay is mail.futuresource.com. This means that mail coming > from mail.futuresource.com (as the relay) is legitimate and that all > other mail is likely to be forged. Now, why would > mail.futuresource.com allow someone t

[Mimedefang] outgoing mail copy

2004-08-10 Thread Muhammad Talha
Dear all Is it possible with mimedefang to copy outgoing mails from specific user to be copied to some other account. is there any other solution ?? Regards M. Talha ___ Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.canit.ca MIMEDefang mailing list