Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Tom Beard
Samurai Chef wrote: > I'll do it. I'll order some and announce here. I'll set up a ebay > store for the merchandise. contact me with requests. I'd take a few if you got them done. Tom

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Martin Toft
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 10:23:11PM -0600, Samurai Chef wrote: > There has been quite a bit of response so far, that's very > encouraging. Thank you to all who have responded so far. > > Here is what I am planning on ordering: white coffee cups with puffy > and OpenBSD logo wraped around the cup.

Re: compiling kernel for sparc64 target on a i386 machine

2007-01-14 Thread Nick Holland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i saw that, but i can't found the cross-compiling tools, that are > on the system. :-( i there anyone who use that ? > > Thomas AGAIN, cross compiling is not supported. How can we make that more clear? If you wish to do this, you are ON YOUR OWN (that means you don't

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Deanna Phillips
Samurai Chef writes: > portions of the sales will be donated back to the project. Huh. What portions? Why not all proceeds? Just curious.

Re: VOIP NAT

2007-01-14 Thread Chris 'Xenon' Hanson
Brian Candler wrote: What, specifically is your issue? One huge issue has to do with pf and SIP protocol design. SIP signaling messages go over a well-known port (5060/tcp), but the media traffic (the actual voice packets) go over some random port negotiated during call setup. I believe th

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread bofh
On 1/14/07, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Samurai Chef writes: > portions of the sales will be donated back to the project. Huh. What portions? Why not all proceeds? Just curious. Probably some upfront costs, and you need some capital for the next batch, etc. Also need some $

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Samurai Chef
Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I will keep some of the money to cover my costs and have a little profit to provide more products in the future. Some of the money will go back to the project. I could be a rea

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Samurai Chef
You are correct on the money aspect, see my other post. I have asked for permission from Theo out of courtesy. I have not received a reply yet. Once I have that permission and higher quality artwork I will place the orders. After that, it will take about 10 days to get the products. Then I wi

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Deanna Phillips
Samurai Chef writes: > Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up > and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I ^ Aha, that's where I thought this was going. So your time spent "marketing" a "brand" created by unpaid volunteers is worth mo

Friendly registrar

2007-01-14 Thread Jean-Daniel Beaubien
Hi everyone, I'm about to purchase a domain name and I was wondering if there are any registrar out there that are friendly to OpenBSD (donations, contributions, etc...). Thanks, JD

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Samurai Chef
You are free to do the same thing and donate all profits to whomever you wish. If you don't agree, then don't buy. I've stated my position and if you don't agree, then you don't agree. I have no intentions on engaging you on a long discussion of the merits of this project. On 1/14/07, Deanna P

Re: Friendly registrar

2007-01-14 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Jean-Daniel, > I'm about to purchase a domain name and I was wondering if there are > any registrar out there that are friendly to OpenBSD (donations, > contributions, etc...). I like GoDaddy. They're on donations.html. HTH... Nico

Re: Friendly registrar

2007-01-14 Thread Paulo Rodriguez
Not sure if they are specifically OpenBSD friendly, but gandi.net is alternative-friendly and opensource friendly (see http://www.gandi.net/soutient/ ) . And they are french, which might be a plus on your book ;) I think Henning's company also did registrar services ( http://www.bsws.de/ ), i

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Nick Davey
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not marketing a brand, he's fulfilling a market request. He's keeping some of the proceeds that he earned by spending his time, and initially, his money, so that we have these products available. It doesn't seem quiet unreasonable Nick Deanna Phill

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Jean-Daniel Beaubien
I just wanted to say that if your worried about the cost of broken mugs (like bofh mentioned a few post earlier) you could simply sell the 'Travel mugs'. Since they are made of stainless steel, I very much doubt they would break during shipping...Also I find them more practical. You would even h

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Jan Mason
Thanks for taking on the project. I'm good for a couple of mugs. On 1/14/07, Samurai Chef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are free to do the same thing and donate all profits to whomever you wish. If you don't agree, then don't buy. I've stated my position and if you don't agree, then you don'

pf freezing with MS remote desktop

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Matulis
I am using OBSD 3.8 as a firewall for a small office and I have an XP user that connects to a remote host via MS Remote Desktop (TCP 3389). Occasionally, this user complains that her connection is severed and that afterwards she can no longer reconnect. (She has taken the bad habit, of which I

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Umnada Tyrolla
Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Just because others do things (like program) for free doesn't mean they shouldn't be paid for it. On the other hand, Samurai Chef isn't really creating anything. Maybe a profit split between the artwork creator and Samurai Chef? Or how about a

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Umnada Tyrolla
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jean-Daniel Beaubien > > I just wanted to say that if your worried about the cost of broken > mugs (like bofh mentioned a few post earlier) you could simply sell > the 'Travel mugs'. Since they are ma

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Marc Balmer
* Umnada Tyrolla wrote: > Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Just because > others do things (like program) for free doesn't mean they shouldn't be > paid for it. > > On the other hand, Samurai Chef isn't really creating anything. Maybe a > profit split between the artwork cre

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Martin Toft
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 01:11:24AM +0100, Marc Balmer wrote: > How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) artwork > for commercial use? > > Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright > owner to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? All those questi

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread bofh
At this point, I leave it to samurai, theo and the artist to work it out. It shouldn't matter to us what the split is as long as those 3 are happy, and anyone of them can kill the project if they're not individually happy. Having said that, a metal mug like suggested, would be more of what I wan

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Samurai Chef
On 1/14/07, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright owner to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? Not yet. I'm working on it however. My understanding is that Theo is the copyright holder. I have an sent an email to

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread chefren
On 1/15/07 1:11 AM, Marc Balmer wrote: * Umnada Tyrolla wrote: Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Just because others do things (like program) for free doesn't mean they shouldn't be paid for it. On the other hand, Samurai Chef isn't really creating anything. Isn't he pr

Re: php mail() function fails

2007-01-14 Thread Lars Hansson
On Friday 12 January 2007 23:59, Ste Jones wrote: > Just out of interest does femail need a sh in the chroot like > mini_sendmail? mini_sendmail doesn't need it, it's PHP that does. --- Lars Hansson

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Umnada Tyrolla
> -Original Message- > From: Marc Balmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:11 PM > To: Umnada Tyrolla > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug > > * Umnada Tyrolla wrote: > > > Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Jus

Poor performance with gem(4)? (reposted from ppc@)

2007-01-14 Thread Brian Keefer
(sorry for the repost, I guess there aren't many eyes on ppc@) Has anyone else noticed extremely poor performance with gem(4) devices, particularly on the Mac Mini G4? dmesg is below, but the summary is that I have a gem(4), and after finally being fed up with the poor performance I plugged

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Samurai Chef
On 1/14/07, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) artwork for commercial use? Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright owner to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? To quote from http://www.openbs

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Jason George
>You are correct on the money aspect, see my other post. > >I have asked for permission from Theo out of courtesy. I have not >received a reply yet. Once I have that permission and higher quality >artwork I will place the orders. After that, it will take about 10 >days to get the products. Then

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Marco Peereboom
> To quote from http://www.openbsd.org/art4.html: > "Most images provided here are copyright by OpenBSD, by Theo de Raadt, > or by other members or developers of the OpenBSD group. However, it is > our intent that anyone be able to use these images to represent > OpenBSD in a positive light. So enj

Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug

2007-01-14 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 14/01/07, Samurai Chef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/14/07, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) artwork for > commercial use? > > Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright owner > to market these mugs u

Error building system binaries

2007-01-14 Thread Marcos Marconcini
Hi Today I got this problem when build system Binaries after do and update to 3.9 -stable using patch brand. cc -o sshd sshd.o auth-rhosts.o auth-passwd.o auth-rsa.o auth-rh-rsa.o sshpty.o sshlogin.o servconf.o serverloop.o auth.o auth1.o auth2.o auth-options.o session.o auth-chall.o