Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread Karl Sjodahl - dunceor
On Nov 16, 2007 7:20 AM, Weldon Goree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 00:28 -0500, Piet Slaghekke wrote: > > I like to filter my openBSD emails and the only way I can do it is if > > everyone > > send their email with misc@openBSD.org in the " To " field. > > > > Please send em

Re: Does Xenocara requires sets x*42.tgz

2007-11-16 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, On 16/11/2007, Zoong PHAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason is the X sets don't have window manager cwm. Where did you get this idea from? It's in the sets. -- Best Regards Edd --- http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett

Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread Richard Toohey
On 16/11/2007, at 7:20 PM, Weldon Goree wrote: If only there were mail clients that allowed one to filter on To: or Cc:... And automatically added dripping tags?

Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi there, I am playing with softraid. So far it seems very good. I have a 3 disk volume. If I remove one disk from the machine and boot it up, this is the result: ---8<--- # dmesg | grep softraid0 softraid0 at root softraid0: not assembling partial disk that used to be volume 0 # bioctl softrai

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:40:29PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: > hmm, on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:30:00PM +0100, Toni Mueller said that > > > could someone test this before i submit a bug report? > > > > I've removed the '-s' flag for this reason, although I would very much > > prefer to have it

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 16.11.2007 at 11:43:38 +0100, frantisek holop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have upgraded to 4.2 and because i am frequently without net access > i see the following: at startup time ntpd just hangs indefinitely > and must be terminated. yes. > ntpd_flags="-s" > could someone test

nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, i have upgraded to 4.2 and because i am frequently without net access i see the following: at startup time ntpd just hangs indefinitely and must be terminated. /etc/rc.conf.local: ntpd_flags="-s" /etc/hostname.rl0: dhcp NONE NONE NONE otherwise a stock 4.2 install. could someone test

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:43:38AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: > hi there, > > i have upgraded to 4.2 and because i am frequently without net access > i see the following: at startup time ntpd just hangs indefinitely > and must be terminated. > > /etc/rc.conf.local: > ntpd_flags="-s" > > /etc/

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Stefan Klein
Hi Jan, Sorry for the delay, I overlooked your reply If I use exactly the same commands / mount options as you I get less than 1MB/s I know that I cannot expect a "good" performance with the CF card, but 5MB/s would just be fine :-) What else can I try? Greetings Stefan My confi

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:25:40PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-16 12:39]: > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, 16.11.2007 at 11:43:38 +0100, frantisek holop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > i have upgraded to 4.2 and because i am frequently without net acces

Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread mvdeventer
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weldon Goree Sent: 16 November 2007 08:20 AM To: Piet Slaghekke Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please) On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 00:28 -0500, Piet Slaghekk

Re: Does Xenocara requires sets x*42.tgz

2007-11-16 Thread Zoong PHAM
On Friday, 16 November 2007 at 10:52:41 +, Edd Barrett wrote: > On 16/11/2007, Zoong PHAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The reason is the X sets don't have window manager cwm. > > Where did you get this idea from? It's in the sets. Sorry about the confusion, I missed that. It is really in th

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 01:13:42PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:40:29PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: > > hmm, on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:30:00PM +0100, Toni Mueller said that > > > > could someone test this before i submit a bug report? > > > > > > I've removed the '-

Re: Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Edd Barrett
On 16/11/2007, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hijacking the thread a bit: I'll say :P > Do all your disks need to be the same size > to use softraid? softraid(4) and bioctl(8) do not mention anything > about that. I assume so. I could not work out a way of rebuilding inconsistent vo

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:38:03PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:43:38AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: > > hi there, > > > > i have upgraded to 4.2 and because i am frequently without net access > > i see the following: at startup time ntpd just hangs indefinitely > > an

isakmpd: lost vpn connection

2007-11-16 Thread Christoph Leser
I have a problem with ipsec/isakmpd. I have setup about 20 vpn's to various other sites, all using tunnel mode ( active ). All but one are working fine. One connection exhibits the following behaviour: After isakmpd starts, the vpn starts correctly, main and quick mode are successfully negotiat

Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread Piet Slaghekke
(-: Ok, Ok I love the responses to this request and I get the point (-: Not such a good request. I have listed the responses here (-: (note: classifications are the sole opinion of this writer and may or may not be shared by others) thanks everyone for the help on the "removing a list users

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Alexander Hall
Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:43:38AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: i have upgraded to 4.2 and because i am frequently without net access i see the following: at startup time ntpd just hangs indefinitely and must be terminated. Are you sure this did not happen before? I'

Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread Frank Bax
Piet Slaghekke wrote: I like to filter my openBSD emails and the only way I can do it is if everyone send their email with misc@openBSD.org in the " To " field. Please send email To misc@openBSD.org and do not CC it to this address. Why has no-one mentioned filtering on X-Loop tag? It wor

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Stefan Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I use exactly the same commands / mount options as you I get less than > 1MB/s > > I know that I cannot expect a "good" performance with the CF card, but 5MB/s > would just be fine :-) I've started playing with a CF in a bigger machine, and the

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-16 12:39]: > Hi, > > On Fri, 16.11.2007 at 11:43:38 +0100, frantisek holop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > i have upgraded to 4.2 and because i am frequently without net access > > i see the following: at startup time ntpd just hangs indefinitely > > a

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/16 14:10, Stefan Klein wrote: > Sorry for the delay, I overlooked your reply > > If I use exactly the same commands / mount options as you I get less than > 1MB/s > > I know that I cannot expect a "good" performance with the CF card, but 5MB/s > would just be fine :-) You can

Re: nptd regression in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:30:00PM +0100, Toni Mueller said that > > could someone test this before i submit a bug report? > > I've removed the '-s' flag for this reason, although I would very much > prefer to have it in place in the case that I have net access. I don't > know whether it woul

Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread Nick Holland
Piet Slaghekke wrote: > I like to filter my openBSD emails and the only way I can do it is if everyone > send their email with misc@openBSD.org in the " To " field. > > Please send email To misc@openBSD.org and do not CC it to this address. > > Thanks! wow. You ask one novice question and yo

Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread Han Boetes
Piet Slaghekke wrote: > I like to filter my openBSD emails and the only way I can do it > is if everyone send their email with misc@openBSD.org in the " > To " field. > > Please send email To misc@openBSD.org and do not CC it to this > address. > > Thanks! I've been struggeling with this as well,

Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread Weldon Goree
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 00:28 -0500, Piet Slaghekke wrote: > I like to filter my openBSD emails and the only way I can do it is if everyone > send their email with misc@openBSD.org in the " To " field. > > Please send email To misc@openBSD.org and do not CC it to this address. > > Thanks! If on

Re: Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:01:13AM -0500, Nick Guenther wrote: > On 11/16/07, Edd Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I am playing with softraid. So far it seems very good. > > > > Hijacking the thread a bit: Do all your disks need to be the same size > to use softraid? softra

Re: Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Nick Guenther
On 11/16/07, Edd Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > I am playing with softraid. So far it seems very good. > Hijacking the thread a bit: Do all your disks need to be the same size to use softraid? softraid(4) and bioctl(8) do not mention anything about that. -Nick

Re: Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:45:04PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: > On 16/11/2007, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hijacking the thread a bit: > > I'll say :P > > > Do all your disks need to be the same size > > to use softraid? softraid(4) and bioctl(8) do not mention anything > > about

Re: Helping with Softraid testing

2007-11-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
I'll take this as the documentation isn't good enough. Can you point me to the area that isn't clear? On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:29:20AM -0700, Chris Cameron wrote: > I'm in a good position to test Softraid on an AMD and an UltraSPARC, > however I've realized I don't know a lot about it (what -e

Re: Helping with Softraid testing

2007-11-16 Thread Nick Guenther
On 11/16/07, Chris Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm in a good position to test Softraid on an AMD and an UltraSPARC, > however I've realized I don't know a lot about it (what -exactly- it's > working to accomplish, and commands to use). > > Is there an overview of Softraid to get me started

Re: Please send email directly to misc@openBSD.org (no cc please)

2007-11-16 Thread Piet Slaghekke
(-: OK, OK, I love the responses to this request and I get the point (-: Not such a good request. I have listed the responses here (-: *(note: classifications are the sole opinion of this writer and may or may not be shared by others)* ** *thanks everyone for the help on the **"removing a l

securing OpenBSD wireless network

2007-11-16 Thread Juan Miscaro
Hi gang, So I'm setting up my first wireless network for a small business with OpenBSD acting as internet gateway. I am familiar with OpenBSD as gateway but not in the wireless context. I picked myself up a card that the docs say is supported (Linksys WMP54G) and will be installing 4.2 from my C

Re: removing a list of users

2007-11-16 Thread Siju George
On Nov 16, 2007 2:14 AM, Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:23:45PM +0100, Andreas Andersson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- > > Charset: ISO-8859-1 > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >

IPsec and 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Mattieu Baptiste
Hi all, I try since a few days to setting up IPsec for my wireless network. The internet gateway has a ral(4) device : [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ ifconfig ral0 ral0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 lladdr 00:18:f8:a5:f3:34 description: WLAN Link groups: wlan media: IEEE802.11 auto

Re: Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:42:11AM +, Edd Barrett wrote: > Hi there, > > I am playing with softraid. So far it seems very good. > > I have a 3 disk volume. If I remove one disk from the machine and > boot it up, this is the result: > > ---8<--- > # dmesg | grep softraid0 > softraid0 at root

Re: Using CBQ with variable upload bandwidth

2007-11-16 Thread Calomel
I have to agree with Girish. Take some time and find out the average bandwidth for your link. Then set the higher priority users a higher percentage of the total amount than the other users. You could also use a script. If you know what the current upload bandwidth amount is then you could vary t

Helping with Softraid testing

2007-11-16 Thread Chris Cameron
I'm in a good position to test Softraid on an AMD and an UltraSPARC, however I've realized I don't know a lot about it (what -exactly- it's working to accomplish, and commands to use). Is there an overview of Softraid to get me started so I can be of some use? Chris

Re: Excess interrupts using ALTQ

2007-11-16 Thread Calomel
Fernando, Doing a quick google search I see other people have also reported problems with the on board Broadcom BCM5708 on the dells. Can you try another network card like the Intel Pro/1000 MT (OpenBSD interface name: em0) ? My place of business transfers an average of 450Mbit with OpenBSD 4.1/

Re: Slow Performance on Encrypted svnd

2007-11-16 Thread Ted Unangst
instead of pondering problems with using the whole disk, you could just use svnd with a file.

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Paul de Weerd
I have a SanDisk Extreme III 2GB (at least I think it's III) in my Soekris net5501 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ dd if=/dev/zero of=nulls bs=65536 count=1600 1600+0 records in 1600+0 records out 104857600 bytes transferred in 8.604 secs (12186647 bytes/sec) [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ dd if=nulls of=/dev/null bs=

Re: Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Nick Guenther
On 11/16/07, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:01:13AM -0500, Nick Guenther wrote: > > > > Hijacking the thread a bit: Do all your disks need to be the same size > > to use softraid? softraid(4) and bioctl(8) do not mention anything > > about that. > > No you d

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Jan Stary
> IIRC, the SanDisk above is from their "Ultra II" line. I wonder > how the newer "Extreme III" and "Extreme IV" perform. In my reply to Stefan, it's a SanDisk Extreme III (2GB). Jan

Re: Ion3 port is obsolete

2007-11-16 Thread Sevan / Venture37
> Who is talking about using windows apps? > > I just said I ported it work in cygwin so that I don't have to "use" > windows at work. GNU userland beats even MS cli commands. > why cygwin & not uwin or sfu?? cygwin is such a poor performer ___

Re: Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
Oh I guess I should elaborate on that :-) What happens is that the larger disks gets coerced into a smaller size. So you lose the excess capacity at the end of the disk. I am actually working on a raid concat that you can use to claim all unused space and make it into a larger disk but my first p

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 16 20:07:16, Paul de Weerd wrote: > I have a SanDisk Extreme III 2GB (at least I think it's III) in my > Soekris net5501 : > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ dd if=/dev/zero of=nulls bs=65536 count=1600 > 1600+0 records in > 1600+0 records out > 104857600 bytes transferred in 8.604 secs (12186647 byte

Re: Slow Performance on Encrypted svnd

2007-11-16 Thread Die Gestalt
On Nov 16, 2007 12:36 AM, Clint Pachl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nonetheless, the bonnie++ results may provide some insight to the > problem for an experienced guru. What I found interesting is that the > CPU usage is really low for writes and rewrites when svnd is backed by > the whole disk. Th

Re: Softraid Experimentation

2007-11-16 Thread Edd Barrett
On 16/11/2007, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You did find a bug; that is removing the disk and rebooting it and then > reinserting it. I am not sure how you did it but it should have > complained that your raid set is only partially there. Can you > elaborate on you actual steps an

Re: Helping with Softraid testing

2007-11-16 Thread Chris Cameron
I thought the manpage was just covering things that worked well, and in the code itself were things waiting to be tested better. It shows a "3 chunk raid 1" setup, but doesn't mention anything about hot standby. I'm not aware of 3 disk RAID 1 otherwise. Also, for some reason (I think past misc

Re: Helping with Softraid testing

2007-11-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 01:26:32PM -0700, Chris Cameron wrote: > I thought the manpage was just covering things that worked well, and in > the code itself were things waiting to be tested better. It shows a "3 > chunk raid 1" setup, but doesn't mention anything about hot standby. I'm > not aware

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
My sandisks are quite fast (8MB/s or more, though I just had to throw a fairly new SDCFJ-1024 out with read errors?!) - I have a newish kingston which is slow (1.5MB/s "elite pro cf/1GB-S 50x") - and a bunch of assorted old 32-64MB cards, the majority of which are reasonably quick (fujifilm, sandis

Re: Using CBQ with variable upload bandwidth

2007-11-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/16 12:49, Calomel wrote: > I have to agree with Girish. Take some time and find out the average > bandwidth for your link. ... > You could also use a script. If you know what the current upload bandwidth > amount is then you could vary the "altq on $ExtIf bandwidth 744Kb" line to > refle

Re: Hardware for PF - more general questions

2007-11-16 Thread Henning Brauer
hasn't that been talked about a dozen times lately... * Richard Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-14 11:33]: > I recall hearing tell (on here I think) that amd64 is a better arch for > routing, because of better interrupt handling or somesuch. Is this true? i386 used too be much better. it is t

Re: Slow Performance on Encrypted svnd

2007-11-16 Thread Nick Guenther
On 11/16/07, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > instead of pondering problems with using the whole disk, you could > just use svnd with a file. Yeah but doesn't this hint at some horrible inefficiency in the stack somewhere? -Nick

Re: Slow Performance on Encrypted svnd

2007-11-16 Thread bofh
On Nov 16, 2007 1:32 PM, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > instead of pondering problems with using the whole disk, you could > just use svnd with a file. Well, I think he just found the itch. Now the question is whether he'll scratch it, or will someone else find it interesting enough to

Re: Slow Performance on Encrypted svnd

2007-11-16 Thread Ted Unangst
On 11/16/07, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/16/07, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > instead of pondering problems with using the whole disk, you could > > just use svnd with a file. > > Yeah but doesn't this hint at some horrible inefficiency in the stack > somewhere?

ospfd fib vs database

2007-11-16 Thread Lord Sporkton
I have ospf running between OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC.MP#304 i386 and a 1721 Cisco running c1700-k9o3sy7-mz.123-23.bin. "ospfctl show fib ospf" shows 2 networks, the loopbacks and the gre link however "ospfctl show database area 0.0.0.0" shows only the loopbacks, why doesn't the database show the gre lin

Support for 3ware 3W 8x00 (8006-2LP) in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Pawel Veselov
Hi, I was wondering if the 3ware 8006-2LP is supported in 4.2. The http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html page only lists 5x00, 6x00 and 7x00 as supported devices, but the man page says that 8000 is supported as well. (just trying to find a cheap SATA hardware raid card...) Thanks ! Pawel.

Re: securing OpenBSD wireless network

2007-11-16 Thread David Higgs
On Nov 16, 2007 2:39 PM, Juan Miscaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi gang, > > So I'm setting up my first wireless network for a small business with > OpenBSD acting as internet gateway. I am familiar with OpenBSD as > gateway but not in the wireless context. I picked myself up a card > that the

Re: Support for 3ware 3W 8x00 (8006-2LP) in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread System Administrator
On 16 Nov 2007 at 16:36, Pawel Veselov wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if the 3ware 8006-2LP is supported in 4.2. > The http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html page only lists 5x00, 6x00 and > 7x00 > as supported devices, but the man page says that 8000 is supported as > well. > > (just trying to find

Re: Support for 3ware 3W 8x00 (8006-2LP) in 4.2

2007-11-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 08:15:22PM -0500, System Administrator wrote: > On 16 Nov 2007 at 16:36, Pawel Veselov wrote: > > (just trying to find a cheap SATA hardware raid card...) > > Executive summary: Find another card or use soft-raid. > > The long answer: > > The redundancy provided by a RA

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Christian Weisgerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've started playing with a CF in a bigger machine, and the results > are rather disappointing. [...] So I briefly switched the CF cards. * The SanDisk does on the order of 15 MB/s read, 10 MB/s write in the amd64. Without monopolizing the CPU

Problem with ftp-proxy and pf... Can connect but cannot list, put, or get files from ftp server!

2007-11-16 Thread Jake Conk
Hello, I just had a server crash luckily I had all my configurations backed up. So anyways I restore everything to the same way it was before the server crash however pf and ftp-proxy isn't working the way it used to. I installed using the same openbsd cds when I previously installed it so everyth

trying cwm while running ion

2007-11-16 Thread Chris
My system boots to xdm & I login to ion. Is there any way I could try out cwm while I am running ion? Thanks.