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2008-12-29 Thread Rik Burt
I gotta say I was pleasantly surprised again by the OpenBSD OS. I had been dual booting to another OS almost strictly for working with my BlackBerry. This other OS isn't based on FreeBSD and is distributed only in binary form. Well it finally happened that I had left my BB plugged into it's USB

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)

2008-12-29 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-12-29, Michiel van Baak wrote: > On 15:22, Mon 29 Dec 08, Marco Peereboom wrote: >> Those things crash more often than windows 3.11 > > > I'm getting a bit annoyed by statements like this. > There are a lot of stable setups with virtualisation out there. they probably don't involve VMs ru

Re: Running another OS under OpenBSD

2008-12-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Douglas A. Tutty [2008-12-23 05:45]: > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 02:41:08AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > > > * Jussi Peltola [2008-12-11 20:52]: > > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:30:50AM -0800, Jeff_1981 wrote: > > > many thing from p

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)

2008-12-29 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 15:22, Mon 29 Dec 08, Marco Peereboom wrote: > Those things crash more often than windows 3.11 I'm getting a bit annoyed by statements like this. There are a lot of stable setups with virtualisation out there. It all depends on the setup and the knowledge on the topic with the ppl setting up t

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)

2008-12-29 Thread Marco Peereboom
Those things crash more often than windows 3.11 On Dec 29, 2008, at 2:01 PM, bofh wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: Still doesn't allow you to plug in cables; move cards around, insert a cd etc. Writing/debugging drivers remotely sucks. One also doesn't get

Re: laptop choice

2008-12-29 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 12:09, Mon 29 Dec 08, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > So... can anyone with a {T60,T60p,T61,T61p} clarify specifically > * your exact IBM model number? T61p Type: 6466-55G Intel graphics, intel gbit nic, intel 54mbit wireless OpenBSD anima.vanbaak.info 4.4 GENERIC.MP#2042 amd64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 D

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)

2008-12-29 Thread bofh
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:13 PM, David Gwynne wrote: > On 30/12/2008, at 7:01 AM, bofh wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Marco Peereboom >> wrote: >>> >>> Still doesn't allow you to plug in cables; move cards around, insert a >>> cd etc. Writing/debugging drivers remotely sucks. One al

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)

2008-12-29 Thread David Gwynne
On 30/12/2008, at 7:01 AM, bofh wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: Still doesn't allow you to plug in cables; move cards around, insert a cd etc. Writing/debugging drivers remotely sucks. One also doesn't get any of the hints from the hardware like leds blink

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)

2008-12-29 Thread bofh
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > Still doesn't allow you to plug in cables; move cards around, insert a > cd etc. Writing/debugging drivers remotely sucks. One also doesn't get > any of the hints from the hardware like leds blinking fan noise etc. Hey, you can do all th

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)

2008-12-29 Thread Marco Peereboom
Still doesn't allow you to plug in cables; move cards around, insert a cd etc. Writing/debugging drivers remotely sucks. One also doesn't get any of the hints from the hardware like leds blinking fan noise etc. On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:35:08AM -0500, Steve Shockley wrote: > On 12/27/2008 5:12

Re: uxterm and backspace

2008-12-29 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Jan Johansson wrote: > start an "uxterm" > > I then run cat and type four swedish characters and then try to > backspace two of them. The display is updated correctly but > hitting enter shows that only one of the characters was erased. Yes. Those "Swedish characters" are encoded as two-byte s

Re: laptop choice

2008-12-29 Thread STeve Andre'
On Monday 29 December 2008 12:09:25 Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > Hi, > > In , > Steve Andre' wrote > > > Most if not all T series are good choices. Newer and faster, but cost > > more. A 1.6G P mobile can be had for $400 - $500; possibly less

Re: Erros when rebuilding Kernel

2008-12-29 Thread Nick Holland
Rildo Cezar wrote: Hi Misc, I got a erro when "following stable". At last when i do "make build" the process goes for a long time and then: install: /usr/games/backgammon/backgammon: Is a directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/games/backgammon/backgammon (line 127 of /usr/share/mk/bsd.p

Re: laptop choice

2008-12-29 Thread Dan Harnett
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:09:25PM -0500, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > Ouch! I have run OpenBSD on a T43 and two T41p-s for several years > with excellent results (including working APM & suspend-to-RAM). > I'm currently shopping for a replacement (used/reconditioned) > Thinkpad following a back-to

NAT and like networks

2008-12-29 Thread Chris Bullock
I have a problem and hopefully someone will have a solution. I have a pf firewall with multiple NICs. Inside interface em0 has an IP address of 10.1.1.1/24 and outside interface dc3 has an IP address of 10.1.2.1/24. Problem is that the outside site has a network with the same scheme as one of the

pfsync

2008-12-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I just discovered that pfsync needs the sync device to be numbered, even if I simply try to use the multicast address and don't specify a syncpeer. Not numbering it, but simply pulling it up, yielded (eg.) # ifconfig pfsync0 syncdev ste3 ifconfig: SIOCSETPFSYNC: No buffer space available I

Re: laptop choice

2008-12-29 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
Hi, In , Steve Andre' wrote > Most if not all T series are good choices. Newer and faster, but cost > more. A 1.6G P mobile can be had for $400 - $500; possibly less these > days. The T43 can be a little weird with disks, coming up with a

Erros when rebuilding Kernel

2008-12-29 Thread Rildo Cezar
Hi Misc, I got a erro when "following stable". At last when i do "make build" the process goes for a long time and then: install: /usr/games/backgammon/backgammon: Is a directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/games/backgammon/backgammon (line 127 of /usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk). *** Error

The OpenBSD Command-Line Companion

2008-12-29 Thread Jacek Artymiak
Hi, [Please reply to ja...@devguide.net, I don't want to litter this list] I have an important announcement for everyone who purchased "The OpenBSD Command-Line Companion". I would like to send you a free PDF copy of the latest update to the manuscript. However, for privacy reasons, I cannot jus

uxterm and backspace

2008-12-29 Thread Jan Johansson
Hello! In my work I access a lot of machines that use UTF-8 as default encoding. Trying to get this to work with my OpenBSD laptop i found the following problem. start an "uxterm" $ file utf-8.txt utf-8.txt: UTF-8 Unicode text $ cat utf-8.txt edvEDV I then run cat and type four swedish charact

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development

2008-12-29 Thread David Gwynne
and time. On 29/12/2008, at 8:33 PM, Artur Grabowski wrote: Lars Noodin writes: What else is there on a wish-list for being able to do kernel-level work remotely? Serial console, a machine connected to the same net, remote power cycling, a slave willing to plug and unplug cables to see w

Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development

2008-12-29 Thread Artur Grabowski
Lars Noodin writes: > What else is there on a wish-list for being able to do kernel-level work > remotely? Serial console, a machine connected to the same net, remote power cycling, a slave willing to plug and unplug cables to see what happens. //art