Re: NSA spy catalog (was: Re: apologies for the noise (interesting article)!)

2014-01-14 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Erling Westenvik [erling.westen...@gmail.com] wrote: > > The unit costs are pretty stiff for most of the gadgets but some of > them appear to be free. Anyway: When can we expect OpenBSD support for > these devices? > > http://www.spiegel.de/static/happ/netzwelt/2014/na/v1/pub/img/Mobilfunk/S3224_G

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Donald Allen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bob Beck wrote: >>Just to bring this issue back to the forefront. >> >> In light of shrinking funding, we do need to look for a source to >> cover project expenses. If need be the OpenBSD Foundation can

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-01-14, Martijn Rijkeboer wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to create an IP unnumbered setup with PPPoE on OpenBSD? > > Kind regards, > > > Martijn Rijkeboer > > Untested but I think you should be able to put an address from your lan interface on the pppoe interface which might do what you w

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Salim Shaw
Perhaps it's time to slightly increase the cost of CD purchases. I know it's not a favorite thing to do, but necessary for sustainability. On 01/14/2014 07:30 PM, Jason Koch wrote: No need to respond to this: just ideas if they're not already covered. I've just made my donation. For what it's

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Predrag Punosevac
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:56:14PM -0600, Kent R. Spillner wrote: > Anyways, talk is cheap so I'm going to go make a donation now. If everyone > reading this did the same this thread could die, and OpenBSD wouldn't. +1 $10 monthly recurring donation Predrag

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
Nicolai, and others, I'd like to take the opportunity to thank all of those stepping up to the call for contributions. Every little bit helps. For those who ask, the OpenBSD Foundation is the best path for contributions. I hope some larger contributors will step up, to take a more long term vie

Re: Bake Sale

2014-01-14 Thread Jay Hart
>> --- Theo de Raadt wrote: >> Anyone want to suggest we hold a bake sale? > > I understand there is a market for brownies in Colorado and Washington state. > > Ken Hendrickson > > Not if you are a Fed!! Jay

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Nicolai
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:56:14PM -0600, Kent R. Spillner wrote: > Anyways, talk is cheap so I'm going to go make a donation now. If everyone > reading this did the same this thread could die, and OpenBSD wouldn't. I just did the same, $100 via the OpenBSD Foundation. Feels good. I'm super ex

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Jason Koch
No need to respond to this: just ideas if they're not already covered. I've just made my donation. For what it's worth - you can see the numbers on wikimedia's donations, from 2009. I wouldn't discount the $10 user base. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Staeiou/Protocol [see the graphs on fundr

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
>previously on this list Theo contributed: > >> The OpenBSD project uses a lot of electricity for running the >> development and build machines. A number of logistical reasons >> prevents us from moving the machines to another location which might >> offer space/power for free, so let's not allow

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-14 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 14-01-2014 19:24, Martijn Rijkeboer escreveu: > Hi, > > Is it possible to create an IP unnumbered setup with PPPoE on OpenBSD? > > Kind regards, > > > Martijn Rijkeboer > And what the heck you mean by "unnumbered"? If it is wildcard address, and by it, that the pppoe access concentrator provides

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Tito Mari Francis Escaño
For additional financial source, may I suggest that the project license some of their artworks? I think this has been asked for so many times before, maybe you should reconsider your stand on this. Of course Theo or the OpenBSD project as a whole, or the OBSD Foundation can define which artwork is

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Theo contributed: > The OpenBSD project uses a lot of electricity for running the > development and build machines. A number of logistical reasons > prevents us from moving the machines to another location which might > offer space/power for free, so let's not allow the co

NAT reliability in light of recent checksum changes

2014-01-14 Thread Richard Procter
Hi all, I'm using OpenBSD 5.3 to provide an Alix-based home firewall. Thank you all for the commitment to elegant, well-documented software which isn't pernicious to the mental health of its users. I've a question about the new checksum changes[0], being interested in such things and having lis

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Kent R. Spillner
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 03:24:00PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > I will take this opportunity to suggest a probably bad idea but one > > that crossed my mind nonetheless. > > > > I have not actively kept up with this list so forgive me if this can't > > be done, or isn't in line with the communi

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 16:12, Erik Mitchell wrote: > I have not actively kept up with this list so forgive me if this can't > be done, or isn't in line with the community's values, but what about > doing a Kickstarter campaign for each OpenBSD release? Varying levels > of support could get the di

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Sean Howard
There's a lot of reasons why I want to avoid this conversation, but since it's started, I'd say look at http://www.patreon.com/ for a crowdfunding model - much nicer than Kickstarters. (and a way to get people to formalize their buying of CD sets every release)

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > Anyone want to suggest we hold a bake sale? > > I will take this opportunity to suggest a probably bad idea but one > that crossed my mind nonetheless. > > I have not actively kept up with this list so forgive me if this can't > be done, or isn't in line with the community's values, but what

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Erik Mitchell
> Anyone want to suggest we hold a bake sale? I will take this opportunity to suggest a probably bad idea but one that crossed my mind nonetheless. I have not actively kept up with this list so forgive me if this can't be done, or isn't in line with the community's values, but what about doing a

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread patrick keshishian
On 1/14/14, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bob Beck >> wrote: >> >Just to bring this issue back to the forefront. >> > >> > In light of shrinking funding, we do need to look for a source to >> > cover project expenses. If need be the OpenBSD Foundation can be >> > i

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Bob Beck
Kiril, a dedicated one purpose bank account or officially directed donations are somewhat problematic to a canadian not for profit - Normally for expenses the foundation supports we simply re-imburse the individuals for their costs from our funds. As far as the suggested "donation" meter that's an

PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-14 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
Hi, Is it possible to create an IP unnumbered setup with PPPoE on OpenBSD? Kind regards, Martijn Rijkeboer

bwi0: intr fatal TX/RX ([01]) error 0x00001000 (continuously streaming)

2014-01-14 Thread Sunny Raspet
Hello! Running 5.4-RELEASE/macppc on a Mac PowerBook G4, attempting to interact with the built-in bwi(4) card results in badness. I have installed bwi-firmware-1.4p2 from ports; the card is detected, but attempting to run "ifconfig bwi0 scan" or "ifconfig bwi0 up" results in the error message in

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Kirill Bychkov
On Wed, January 15, 2014 00:03, Bob Beck wrote: >Just to bring this issue back to the forefront. > > In light of shrinking funding, we do need to look for a source to > cover project expenses. If need be the OpenBSD Foundation can be > involved in receiving donations to cover project electrica

Re: Bake Sale

2014-01-14 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
--- Theo de Raadt wrote: > Anyone want to suggest we hold a bake sale? I understand there is a market for brownies in Colorado and Washington state. Ken Hendrickson

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Miod Vallat
> Yes, we remove about 10 of the architectures. We'd slowly lose the > developers who like to work on those areas. They also work in other > areas, but ... I suspect they would another BSD that supports them. Darn' tootin'! > Anyone want to suggest we hold a bake sale? Make that a lo-carb bake

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread patric conant
How about we hold a bake sale? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bob Beck > wrote: > > >Just to bring this issue back to the forefront. > > > > > > In light of shrinking funding, we do need to look for a source to > > > cover project

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bob Beck wrote: > >Just to bring this issue back to the forefront. > > > > In light of shrinking funding, we do need to look for a source to > > cover project expenses. If need be the OpenBSD Foundation can be > > involved in receiving donations to cover pro

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Donald Allen
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bob Beck wrote: >Just to bring this issue back to the forefront. > > In light of shrinking funding, we do need to look for a source to > cover project expenses. If need be the OpenBSD Foundation can be > involved in receiving donations to cover project electri

tmux cwd - console vs xterm

2014-01-14 Thread Jan Stary
Not so long ago, the cwd functionality was removed from tmux. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=138270549910047&w=2 With the current i386 snapshot, tmux behaves as follows: Opening a new window with prefix-c in xterm creates a new window and starts a shell in $HOME Opening a new window with pre

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Bob Beck
And actually, if you're reading this, you can help by passing this on to people you know *off these lists*. When we post to these mailing lists saying these things we are asking for your help to get the word out to people who support open source projects. Those people are not necessarily here, and

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-14 Thread Bob Beck
Just to bring this issue back to the forefront. In light of shrinking funding, we do need to look for a source to cover project expenses. If need be the OpenBSD Foundation can be involved in receiving donations to cover project electrical costs. But the fact is right now, OpenBSD will shut do

Re: popa3d removed from base - what do people recommend?

2014-01-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Артур Истомин contributed: > > > I think pop3 is dead but recently there was a mail in tech@ > > > stating Sunil Nimmagadda develops pop3 daemon closed to > > > OpenBSD standards. > > > > That's a good point. I don't like leaving mails on the server for more than > > a

PPPoE problem

2014-01-14 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
Hi, I'm trying to setup a PPPoE connection to my ISP (solcon.nl). I've read pppoe(4) and pppoe(8) and got the following configuration: cat /etc/hostname.pppoe0 inet 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 NONE \ pppoedev em2 authproto pap \ authname '@solcon.net' authkey '' up dest 0.0.0.1

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-14 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 14-01-2014 06:49, Renaud Allard escreveu: > > To be fair, virtualizing stuff without a common shared storage is a > little bit useless. The biggest power of virtualization is to be able > to move VMs between physical hosts or even powering on physical hosts > when you need more power. > > But se

Re: popa3d removed from base - what do people recommend?

2014-01-14 Thread Артур Истомин
On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 01:10:09PM -0500, John Smith wrote: > > I think pop3 is dead but recently there was a mail in tech@ > > stating Sunil Nimmagadda develops pop3 daemon closed to > > OpenBSD standards. > > That's a good point. I don't like leaving mails on the server for more than a > day or

[spamd] longer retention of blacklist entries

2014-01-14 Thread Boudewijn Dijkstra
OBSOLETE WHEN UA.CA IMPLEMENTS NEW SPAMLOGD Because traplist.gz sometimes expires hosts that are still sending spam to the world, I'd like to keep these addresses tarpitted for a while after they are removed, say 24 hours. This logic doesn't apply to the nixspam list because it contains addresses

undefined __res_state using libbind

2014-01-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, following Stuart's suggestion to use libbind, I recompiled and linked Pantomime. I added: ADDITIONAL_LDFLAGS += -lbind ADDITIONAL_LDFLAGS += -Wl,-L/usr/local/lib/libbind -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/libbind ADDITIONAL_INCLUDE_DIRS += -I/usr/local/include/bind I confirm that the additional inclu

F954-6893-EAA5

2014-01-14 Thread Josef Weissacher
accept -- -- Josef Weissacher weissacher.jo...@gmail.com --

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2014-01-14 Thread Josef Weissacher
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Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-14 Thread Renaud Allard
On 01/14/2014 05:49 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: Em 14-01-2014 01:11, Christopher Ahrens escreveu: What I meant by bare-metal was if I should run a bunch of services on the same installation of OpenBSD. I've run in the same physical space issue with my company servers and didn't think twic

Re: libbind - server list

2014-01-14 Thread Eric Faurot
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 09:36:03AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2014-01-12, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > You must use libbind's headers, too: -I/usr/local/include/libbind > > It would probably make sense to apply the diff suggested in that thread > though, as it fixes this case and I don't s