Re: Keeping track of MAC addresses

2019-02-20 Thread Denis Fondras
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 01:05:59PM -0700, j...@bitminer.ca wrote: > > > > did you take a look at net/arpwatch? > > Too many emails; email to root is not a useful mechanism for me. > And net/arpwatch does not handle IPv6. I'll use the route message ABI if I had to do what you are looking for.

Re: wscons API question: input handling?

2019-02-20 Thread Leonid Bobrov
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 08:37:59PM -0500, James Huddle wrote: > is ncurses too high-level for your needs? That might work. > I said I need a direct access to input devices, ie, /dev/wskbd* and /dev/wsmouse*, not a library for text UI. ncurses won't work for what I need, and I need to port libinp

Re: Research and OpenBSD: How can I help?

2019-02-20 Thread Frank Beuth
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 09:16:04PM -0500, James Huddle wrote: Personally, I envision a sort of "open source BIOS" library in the distant future. Something we jack in on jtag if we have to. There is no harm in *starting.* Meanwhile, my super productive Dell laptop can't keep me from wondering w

Re: Research and OpenBSD: How can I help?

2019-02-20 Thread Theo de Raadt
And so the mission begins. With an email. Perhaps a wiki as a next step? I see the critical word "starting". Curious as to what has been "started". Looks like nothing. James Huddle wrote: > >An area that I am personally interested in is running > >OpenBSD on fully open-source / binary-blob-

Re: Research and OpenBSD: How can I help?

2019-02-20 Thread James Huddle
>An area that I am personally interested in is running >OpenBSD on fully open-source / binary-blob-free >hardware: hardware where there is no proprietary >firmware that could hide vendor backdoors, and >ideally where even the design of the chip is available >to the user for review. (Heck yes)^2 Of

Re: wscons API question: input handling?

2019-02-20 Thread James Huddle
is ncurses too high-level for your needs? That might work. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 1:27 PM Leonid Bobrov wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 04:01:08PM +, tfrohw...@fastmail.com wrote: > > Is the package x11/xbindkeys what you are looking for? > > > > No, I need a direct access to keyboard out

Re: Update man.openbsd.org with FreeBSD releases?

2019-02-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jungle Boogie, Jungle Boogie wrote on Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 03:56:03PM -0800: > Thankfully man.openbsd.org has many *BSD man pages available > so I don't have to search many websites with a less inferior > user interface. > > However, it seems the most recent FreeBSD manpages available > are f

Update man.openbsd.org with FreeBSD releases?

2019-02-20 Thread Jungle Boogie
Hi All, Thankfully man.openbsd.org has many *BSD man pages available so I don't have to search many websites with a less inferior user interface. However, it seems the most recent FreeBSD manpages available are from the 11.1 release. 12.0 is the latest current release of FreeBSD. Should those man

em interface fails to enter promiscuous mode when bridging on vlan interfaces

2019-02-20 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
Hello, I'm not sure if this has already been reported, or if it is indeed a bug, but the title pretty much sums it up. I wanted to isolate some vmm virtual machines onto a separate vlan so I created a vlan interface on the host machine, and created a bridge on it. I used option 4 from the li

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

2019-02-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, ropers wrote on Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 09:58:06PM +0100: > Imagine a legacy automobile where the break pedal > accelerates if the car is in neutral, Your analogy is not quite to the point. In vi(1), the escape key, in general, means "change mode", for example from input mode to vi command mod

Re: Keeping track of MAC addresses

2019-02-20 Thread Henry Bonath
Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but I like Netdisco for this. It uses SNMP to query network routers, switches, and access points, and dumps out their TCAM as well as ARP tables into a Database in order to preserve a history of not only what MAC Address was mapped to what IP Address, b

Re: Multiple instances of OSPFD in different RDomains - rcctl behavior

2019-02-20 Thread Henry Bonath
Thanks Stuart. I did some more digging and found that salt itself was the culprit. In my formula, I had a state to write out /etc/rc.conf.local followed by a state to start the ospf2d service. I created the state for /etc/rc.conf.local, as a file.managed state, not understanding that the service.r

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

2019-02-20 Thread ropers
Imagine a legacy automobile where the break pedal accelerates if the car is in neutral, and where the user guide says that's exactly what it does. Some people might favour changing those mechanics -- and the user guide too. Granted, what's "correct" is somewhat a matter of opinion and semantics.

Re: Keeping track of MAC addresses

2019-02-20 Thread j
On 2019-02-20 10:59, Solene Rapenne wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:36:16AM -0700, j...@bitminer.ca wrote: ... The apps in ports don't seem to do what you (or I) want. After looking them over, in the end I wrote a sh script to compare `arp -an` output with a list of "known" MACs, and it

Re: Java program question

2019-02-20 Thread Z Ero
Thanks a bunch...as I mentioned I never run java anymore... On 2/20/19, Karel Gardas wrote: > pkg_info -Q jdk > > Then pkg_add > > Then go to shell and do: > > export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk-1.8.0 > > export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin > > since now, you should have sane VM executable by "java" >

Re: social graces..apologies if inappropriate

2019-02-20 Thread Rajneesh N. Shetty
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UePB46RJ5M Rajneesh N. Shetty www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHe1PvKALaY On Thu, 21/2/19, Anton Lindqvist wrote: Subject: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src To: source-chan...@openbsd.org Received: Thursday, 21 February, 2019, 1:54 AM

Re: Java program question

2019-02-20 Thread Karel Gardas
pkg_info -Q jdk Then pkg_add Then go to shell and do: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk-1.8.0 export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin since now, you should have sane VM executable by "java" So java -jar May do the play... On 2/20/19 8:38 PM, Z Ero wrote: Hello, I am trying to run the stand alon

Re: Research and OpenBSD: How can I help?

2019-02-20 Thread Johnathan M.
> Are there particular problems that could benefit from new > ideas or solutions? I would suggest reviewing https://www.openbsd.org/events.html and ongoing discussions in the tech mailing list for inspiration.

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

2019-02-20 Thread Ted Unangst
ropers wrote: > I personally agree with Sijmen. OpenBSD has always prioritised > correctness over legacy compatibility and standards compliance. > Instinctively, leaving a slightly "buggy" thing in base on the theory > that anyone who doesn't like it should just install larger and less > scrutinise

Java program question

2019-02-20 Thread Z Ero
Hello, I am trying to run the stand alone Java program cgoban.jar found at https://www.gokgs.com/ for playing the board game "Go." I very rarely run Java programs these days. OpenBSD only seems to offer jamvm for a virtual machine and for whatever reason that does not work with this program. Th

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

2019-02-20 Thread ropers
On 20/02/2019, Todd C. Miller wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:04:36 +0100, ropers wrote: > >> While this feature/bug is counter-intuitive (IMHO), I presume nvi acts >> this way so as to be bug-for-bug compatible with original vi. (That's >> my guess. I haven't actually confirmed this.) > > You can

Re: Keeping track of MAC addresses

2019-02-20 Thread Solene Rapenne
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:36:16AM -0700, j...@bitminer.ca wrote: > > I would like to keep tabs on the MAC/IP addresses in my secure net. > > I do know how to do this, but keeping track of ethernet MAC addresses > > seems > > quite cumbersome in OpenBSD, not that it is more convenient in any other

Re: Keeping track of MAC addresses

2019-02-20 Thread j
I would like to keep tabs on the MAC/IP addresses in my secure net. I do know how to do this, but keeping track of ethernet MAC addresses seems quite cumbersome in OpenBSD, not that it is more convenient in any other general purpose operating system but many interfaces for ex. routers make it

Re: Research and OpenBSD: How can I help?

2019-02-20 Thread Theo de Raadt
Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 03:54:29PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > Nor does OpenBSD prefer free firmware over non-free firmware in any way. > > That's not quite true. Non-trivial effort was spent to make our > athn(4) driver work with open source firmware for its USB dev

Re: Research and OpenBSD: How can I help?

2019-02-20 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 03:54:29PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Nor does OpenBSD prefer free firmware over non-free firmware in any way. That's not quite true. Non-trivial effort was spent to make our athn(4) driver work with open source firmware for its USB devices, and to cross-compile these fi

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

2019-02-20 Thread Todd C . Miller
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:04:36 +0100, ropers wrote: > While this feature/bug is counter-intuitive (IMHO), I presume nvi acts > this way so as to be bug-for-bug compatible with original vi. (That's > my guess. I haven't actually confirmed this.) You can install the traditional-vi port and compare th

Re: Research and OpenBSD: How can I help?

2019-02-20 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 9:35 PM Frank Beuth wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 04:22:05AM +, Paul Swanson wrote: > >Are there particular problems that could benefit from new > >ideas or solutions? > > An area that I am personally interested in is running OpenBSD on fully > open-source / binary-

Re: Research and OpenBSD: How can I help?

2019-02-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Frank, Frank Beuth wrote on Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 09:32:53AM +0700: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 04:22:05AM +, Paul Swanson wrote: >> I have some general areas of interest, such as embedded >> computing, but nothing is set in stone yet, so I thought it'd >> be fun to hear from those in know ab

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

2019-02-20 Thread Sijmen J. Mulder
Op di feb 19 2019, om 21:33 schreef Ted Unangst: > I think the answer is, you want traditional vi, you get traditional vi. If you > want something else, try ports. Can't we improve vi? The proposed change isn't feature bloat. Even though it 's the classical behaviour it does feel like a bug to me

Re: Multiple instances of OSPFD in different RDomains - rcctl behavior

2019-02-20 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2019-02-19, Henry Bonath wrote: > --- /var/backups/etc_rc.conf.local.current Wed Jan 16 01:30:06 2019 > +++ /etc/rc.conf.local Fri Feb 15 13:05:17 2019 > @@ -1,9 +1,7 @@ > bgpd_flags= > ldpd_flags= > -ospf2d_flags=-f /etc/ospf2d.conf > ospf2d_rtable=2 > ospfd_flags= > pf=NO > pkg_sc