Re: UTF-8

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:33:23AM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote: > Umm, punycode wasn't developed because of problems with > distinguishability. Indeed, it does nothing to solve those, so I'm > not sure why you would suggest that. punycode exists to encode Although punycode may not have been dev

Re: UTF-8

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:36:17PM -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > Is there any useful documentation that explains how you're supposed to > write C code and what's changed under the i18n New World Order? From > your message, it sounds like we're going to have to rewrite nearly all > of our user-sp

Re: mount ffs as msdos, system hangs

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:21:53PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > There is no readlabelfs() for NFS filesystems. You are being too > specific in saying how it works. In the case of an NFS filesystem, mount(8) just checks whether the "special" string contains a ":" or "@" character. So, the diff i

Re: mount ffs as msdos, system hangs

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:07:37AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > This diff isn't quite right. There are no disklabels on NFS > partitions; heck, there's no true disklabel on a MSDOS-only memory > stick. The language you've written is too specific. How about the following? --- sbin/mount/mount.

Re: mount ffs as msdos, system hangs

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 09:48:23PM -0400, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: > If you wanted to mount according to the partition type number, DON'T > USE '-t '. We give you the option to OVERRIDE the partition > type number and you made use of that override. You have taken command I believe that this thr

Re: OpenBSD as a laptop OS

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:12:44PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > And yt or youtube-dl from ports. Also, the greasmonkey scripts or > > whatever for firefox work great for youtube, vimeo and a few others. > > yeah, greasemonkey + "youtube without flash auto" is *way* better > than swfdec or gnash

Re: Some secure way of updating sources?

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 03:07:59PM -0600, Eric S. Pulley wrote: > So you are seriously suggesting the OpenBSD folks set up a public-key > cryptography system (SSL) to confirm their current public-key cryptography > system (SSH)? I guess then we would need a third system to confirm the > first two,

Re: openbsd not blob free?

On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:32:47AM -0400, Kent Watsen wrote: > it's pointed out that OpenBSD source tree has a blob in it: You've just walked into an old flame war. See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119983946724267

Re: /usr directory: a system or user place?

On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 10:52:54PM +0200, Harrell wrote: > So my doubt is: Is "usr" an abbreviation of "user"? If that is so (as as Chapter 4 of Greg Lehey's Porting Unix Software http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/PUS/ has the following to say about the /usr directory: This directory us

Re: Issues with Newer Broadcom NICs on OpenBSD 4.6

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 08:46:15AM -0400, David Goldsmith wrote: > eth3: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 1000Base-SX (C0) PCI Express found > at mem ea00, IRQ 66, node addr a4badb236d41 > > eth4: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM57711 XGb (A0) PCI-E x8 2.5GHz found at > mem ec80, IRQ 66, node addr a

Re: questions about OpenBSD 4.7

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0200, Andreas Gerdd wrote: > -Why is the stock Apache not getting a version update? See the Apache section of http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

There are different definitions of "security". When OpenBSD is advertised as being secure, it means that users do not have access to root. In contrast, this person appears to equate security with total authoritarian control of what users can do. My favorite quote from http://geodsoft.com/howto

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:06:12PM +, Keith wrote: > firewall that I've never used before so am desperate to find some > details of any foreign governments that are using OpenBSD / PF as a > firewall or any details of any certification of the PF firewall. Did you see the "Governments" section

Re: way to help: laptops and weekly

On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 12:24:15AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > It would be bad advice to disable the daily/weekly/monthly jobs > on all non-server systems. I mean, when the machine is switched off, > they do no harm. When the machine is occasionally running during the > night, they will at leas

Re: way to help: laptops and weekly

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 02:48:35PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: > Cron runs the weekly update script every Saturday at 3:30am. If you > use a laptop or other desktop, your computer probably isn't on then. > So the locate and whatis databases never get updated unless you run it > by hand. I run the d

Re: writing to usb very slow

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:10:41PM +0100, T. Tofus von Blisstein wrote: > this is an example. Attached is a 1GB (fat!) usb memory stick. It took > 40 minutes to copy 285M. As I mentioned previously, the performance of USB memory sticks seems to vary greatly on OpenBSD depending on the stick's manu

Re: writing to usb very slow

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 06:41:38PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > In my limited experience, USB HD are usually about alright but USB > sticks are super slow (i.e. EHCI speed is slower than usb1.1). My experience is that only certain USB sticks are slow on OpenBSD. Experiment with a few differen

Re: ksh (IEEE Std 1003.1-2008 ?)

On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 12:43:05AM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: > If I use redirection rather than piping for input to the `while` loop, > it is not a separate process, and works like the 'for' loop. I have seen some Unix systems where this doesn't work, either. See http://groups.google.com/grou

Re: testing a drive with dd -- odd results

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 09:03:30AM -0500, Scott McEachern wrote: > dd: /dev/rwd0c: Input/output error > 268435455+0 records in > 268435455+0 records out > 137438952960 bytes transferred in 23740.766 secs (5789154 bytes/sec) Note that 137438952960 + 512 = 2^37. So, dd is failing while reading byte

Re: OpenBSD sed vs GNU sed

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:59:29PM -0500, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: > I had been using gnu sed for a while and encountered this issue > going with OpenBSD. ... > It's a cute work around. My point is: if a label can't contain > semicolons, why support "tlabel;" and not "t;"? I don't understand > the lo

Re: OpenBSD sed vs GNU sed

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 08:37:06PM -0500, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: > OpenBSD's sed technicaly supports command concatation with ";" on > the command line but it breaks "branch" without label. Which correctly Read the caveat at the end of the sed man page: "The use of semicolons to separate multipl

Re: vi in /bin

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 03:27:07PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Everything I used to know about sed, I've forgotten once learning Perl. It seems that every decade has its own fashionable Unix scripting language. The original scripting language, used in the 1970's was sed. But awk became the

Re: vi in /bin

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:30:13AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: > I would like to learn to use sed, however, I did not find that the > man page was sufficient as a tutorial. I was not able to find any I learned sed from the book Sed & Awk by Dougherty and Robbins. http://amazon.com/dp/1565922255

Re: vi in /bin

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 07:47:18PM -0500, Brad Tilley wrote: > I use ed in emergencies when /usr is inaccessible, but I'm a lot more > comfortable with vi. Will a static vi ever live in /bin? Helping someone > use ed remotely, who has never used ed, when I myself don't use it > regularly is always

Re: OT: Have you hugged your local OpenBSD dev lately?

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 05:03:40PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > Considering the design of X, I don't expect any valid security model to emerge > out of it. The "Competitors to X" section of the X11 Wikipedia page has some interesting comments about alternatives to X http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_

004_openssl.patch

A few days ago a patch to the highly-publicized OpenSSL vulnerability http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/182304/ssl_flaw_could_have_been_used_to_hack_twitter.html was released for OpenBSD-stable at ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.6/common/004_openssl.patch What exactly

Re: Make utility documentation

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:58:22AM +1300, Paul M wrote: > It deals mainly with gnu make, but the principles are the same. No. The book Managing Projects With GNU Make http://www.amazon.com/dp/0596006101 by Robert Mecklenburg and published by O'Reilly in 2004 deals mainly with GNU make, and isn't

Re: Error message from a distant site

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:18:14PM +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote: > I should have added that Google turned up only one hit for "ckbcintr" Try "pckbcintr"

Minor typo OpenBSD FAQ

There is a minor typographical error in the OpenBSD FAQ at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#TimeZone The FAQ says By default, OpenBSD assumes your hardware clock set to UTC (Universal But the word "is" is missing. It should be By default, OpenBSD assumes your hardware clock is set to U

Installing Mathematica 7 on OpenBSD

Back in March, I posted instructions for installing Mathematica 6 on OpenBSD 4.5. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=123835793220311 Below are instructions for installing Mathematica 7 on OpenBSD 4.6. The biggest change is that Mathematica 7 no longer requires a custom-compiled OpenBSD kernel.

Re: Encrypting /home on OpenBSD Laptops

On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 05:39:47PM -0600, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: > (check email, surf the net, etc...) but it is a pain in the ass the boot > process going to the shell every time and need to type: bioctl -c C > -l /dev/wd0d http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124187397614485

Re: Secure way to delete data in hard disc

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 04:12:54PM +0100, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote: > to do it. Finally I've chosen a simple double-step method: > > First, > > $ dd if=/dev/urandom of= > > and next > > $ dd if=/deb/zero of= I overwrite the disk 7 times with arandom, using the following command for x in `jot -

Re: Forum engine

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 04:42:44PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > archive, whereas, when the forum operator changes his forum software, > or shuts down the forum, all past content is simply gone (or as good > as). Not true. Whenever I read an interesting forum post, I save the html file to my hard

Re: procfs in OpenBSD

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 04:34:20PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > to remove unused bit rotting stuff. what's the deal with procfs? > > if it's use is far from recommended, indeed rather forbidden, > why is it left to rot? It's necessary for compat_linux. See the man page.

Re: FFS/disklabel compatibility among platforms

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:49:33PM +0200, David Vasek wrote: >> Best way I know of to back up a lot of odd machines is to one store is >> running your favorite backup application so it dumps its data over ssh >> link to the one machine (which you have a spare of for repair purposes) >> which ha

Re: Q: How to shop for a laptop to run OpenBSD?

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:46:14AM +0800, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > better to go with AMD instead then in order to avoid this crap? AMD has their own version of Intel AMT, included in their 780V chipset. http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/mainboard/amd-780-740-chipsets-p2.html But AMD doesn't seem t

Re: Q: How to shop for a laptop to run OpenBSD?

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:46:14AM +0800, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > is there a list, some kind of a guide, for which processors have this? Or is Intel AMT isn't part of the processor, it's part of the chipset. For example, an Intel graphics controller is needed because AMT hides inside the graphi

Re: Q: How to shop for a laptop to run OpenBSD?

On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 11:09:49PM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: > mode so well. Remember if you do want to change the wifi card in a > thinkpad, use tpwireless to unlock the bios check. But does tpwireless work on recent ThinkPads? According to the list of successful BIOS modifications at http://

Re: Q: How to shop for a laptop to run OpenBSD?

On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 07:39:19PM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: > Get a thinkpad, and replace the wireless card :) Maybe I'm paranoid, but I've been reluctant to get a new ThinkPad because they all have Intel AMT nowadays. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118302016430106 http://software.intel.c

Re: wpi and firmware error

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:13:04AM -0400, Luis Useche wrote: > I downgraded the firmware to version 3.1 and so far the problem is gone. Whether I'm using firmware version 3.1 with OpenBSD 4.5 (or 2.14.1.5 with OpenBSD 4.3 and 4.4), I get the firmware errors when I'm connected to the wireless acces

Re: wpi and firmware error

On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:03:37PM -0400, Luis Useche wrote: > From time to time my network card stop working and a error message appears: > > wpi0: fatal firmware error I've been experiencing the same problem for about a year--ever since my university installed new access points. The old access

Re: 4.6: softraid boot problems

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:59:56PM +0200, Frank Brodbeck wrote: > I just started to have a look at 4.6 (new installer rocks) and used the > opportunity to setup encryption for my /home. > > Everything works like a charm except that sd2 (on which my /home lives) > doesn't get attached at boot time.

Re: Activation of TrueType hinting in 4.5

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:12:17AM +0200, Federico Giannici wrote: > Now I tried to upgraded my desktop PC to OpenBSD 4.5, but I wasn't able > to activate the TrueType hinting. Did you remove 31-nonmst.conf? See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124141462930332

Re: RAM not detected on HP DL580 G4

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 02:33:48PM +0200, BARDOU Pierre wrote: > I'm trying to set up an OpenBSD 4.5 amd64 on a HP ProLiant DL580 G4. It has 38 > GB RAM, but only ~3 GB is detected. > Is it possible to use all the RAM ? See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=123763424431042

Re: Disk enryption or storing data in safe

On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 04:38:41AM +0300, Cem Kayali wrote: > Well, could you please advise me how i can automate to run bioctl > *before* fstab entires mounted? --- so that i can push ie; /var, /usr > and swap partitions into encrypted volume? Assuming that your RAID partition is sd0d, use th

Re: Trouble with "Times" fonts in OpenBSD 4.5

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:47:41AM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > The problem is that Bitstream Vera Serif is always being used instead of > any variant of "Times". For example if I set firefox or gimp to use After a little investigation, I have discovered that this problem

Trouble with "Times" fonts in OpenBSD 4.5

I have just installed OpenBSD 4.5 on i386, and I am observing a problem with fonts. It is most noticeable with the /x11/msttcorefonts port installed. The problem is that Bitstream Vera Serif is always being used instead of any variant of "Times". For example if I set firefox or gimp to use Times

Re: Sharing softraid volumes between machines

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 08:30:25AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > This should work but there are a few caveats. It has to be same arch That's the problem. Machine A is i386 and machine B is macppc.

Sharing softraid volumes between machines

Can a softraid volume be shared between two different computers? Here's my scenario: I have two OpenBSD machines, A and B. Both are running OpenBSD 4.4. Machine A is my primary computer, and I regularly back it up on an external hard drive, encrypted with softraid. My plan is to copy the backup

Re: automaticaly mount/umount encrypted $HOME or ...

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:18:35PM +0300, Timo Myyr?? wrote: > I encrypted my $HOME with bioctl and just put the 'bioctl -c C -l > /dev/sd0g softraid0' line to my /etc/rc. Simple and working solution > although it needs a little bit tweaking as currently I get dropped to > single user mode if I

Typo on OpenBSD 4.5 CD Set

There is a typographical error on the back cover of the OpenBSD 4.5 CD set. It says "This package contains the operating system and a selection of applications for the i386, macppc, amd64, sparc, and sparc64 architectures." This is incorrect, because the CDs do not contain the operating syste

Re: ThinkPad T60 audible bell *very* loud

> feel. The stupid bell should be killed dead. Actually, I prefer the bell over the more complex "alert sounds" produced by other operating systems--to me, anything other than a simple bell would be needless bloat. (I'm reminded of the fact that every time I try to shutdown a Windows machine, I

Re: Yahoo videos on OpenBSD

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 07:46:42PM +0200, Tom Bodr wrote: > someone is watching Yahoo videos on OpenBSD? I use http://keepvid.com to download the video, then play it with mplayer.

Re: [semi-OT] Can anyone recommend an OpenBSD-compatible colour laser printer?

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:20:25PM +0200, ropers wrote: > went on behind the scenes. I am trying to catch up on that, though I'm > finding that comprehensive, thorough, and up-to-date documentation on > the whole Unix printing landscape seems to be somewhat hard to find. There is a chapter on prin

Re: Games

On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 02:34:20PM +0300, Aapo Lehtinen wrote: > Very good song! Is there "original" available somewhere? I presume it is > somehow connected to this "Tron" but i'm unfamiliar with it. (..oh, i'll The song "Only solutions" by Journey was featured in the movie Tron. http://www.yo

Re: Games

On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:19:00PM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote: > The new release song is really catchy. Many thanks to Jonathan, I'm in complete agreement. It's probably the best OpenBSD song yet, and has the potential to appeal to frustrated computer users outside the OpenBSD community (e.g. t

Installing Mathematica 6 on OpenBSD

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:56:45AM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > Incidentally, I'm running Mathematica on i386 using compat_linux. There > are a few non-trivial steps involved in the installation--contact me if > you want the details. I've received a few requests

Re: Ideas for Getting MATLAB/Mathematica to utilize sparc64 ram that runs openbsd

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:10:39AM -0700, Vivek Ayer wrote: > experiment. The Sun blade systems are all already web servers which > have allocated 2 GB to memcached, but still have so much more to give. > I thought maybe this was a useful way to use that extra RAM. Another problem that you might e

Re: Ideas for Getting MATLAB/Mathematica to utilize sparc64 ram that runs openbsd

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:30:56AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: > As for the actual question of getting Mathematica and/or Matlab to run > on your sparc64 under OpenBSD, what about using SysV-R4 emulation with > the available Solaris binaries? > > At least with Mathematica, linux binaries are only a

Re: linux binary emulation (corrected kdump)

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 05:40:46PM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > homepage? Other features like pf, carp, openssh, sparc64 support, etc. > aren't mentioned at all on the front page of www.openbsd.org Oops. OpenSSH is mentioned on the front page, albeit in a footnote that lists

Re: linux binary emulation (corrected kdump)

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:55:18PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Constantine Cusulos > wrote: > > Maybe compat_linux needs some additional work. > > No doubt about that, but interest is seriously waning. I cared back Although interest in compat_linux may be "serio

Re: halt -p does not powerdown ThinkPad X200 under 4.5beta

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 09:34:38AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > What happens here is that the bios lies and tells us to write a value to > some register and nothing happens. We have debugged several of these > machines and all to the same avail; we are doing it right but nothing > happens. May

Re: Can someone please suggest a replacement for xterm for me?

On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 11:59:49AM -0500, Marcus Watts wrote: > Recent versions of xterm (237, 242) have some new options you might find > helpful. > > control-center-button brings up "VT options", then > just past "Allow 80/132 Column Switching", there are 2 new options: > "Keep Selection", and

Re: Can someone please suggest a replacement for xterm for me?

On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:16:05PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: > hmm, on Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 11:45:49AM +0000, Matthew Szudzik said that > > PRIMARY. So, if you've copied something to the CLIPBOARD in firefox, > > then you won't be able to paste it in xterm. > >

Re: Can someone please suggest a replacement for xterm for me?

On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:43:58PM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote: > cut-and-paste no. copy-and-paste yes. is that not good enough? The main problem is that there are are 3 different copy-and-paste operations under X Windows. There is the PRIMARY (copies by highlighting text and pastes by clicki

Re: nroff -mandoc alternative

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:01:49PM +0100, Kristaps D??onsons wrote: > Hello, if anybody's interested in an alternative to groff for viewing > BSD "mdoc" manual pages, I'm actively looking for patches and problem > reports for mdocml. From the site : Excellent! Was this pro

Re: Backup strategies

On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 06:34:31PM +0100, Pierre Riteau wrote: > The 4GB file limitation is for files *INSIDE* an ISO file system, not > for the ISO itself. Exactly! It's OK to have a DVD "crammed to the brim" with 4.7GB of data, as long as the individual files on the DVD are each under the files

Re: Backup strategies

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:04:32PM +, Dieter wrote: > > i kinda like cpio for fast backup of filesystems... for large media > > files (think anime movies) -- I think its generally best to just > > burn them on a iso.. > > ISO files have a 2 GB filesize limit, so large files don't fit. I use

Re: Backup strategies

On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 12:12:50PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > I can fetch files that are well over 4GB and burn them on DVD. These > files are called as "ISO" files, but I don't know exactly what's inside See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660#The_4_GiB_.28or_2_GiB_depending_on_implementat

Re: Capturing kernel debugger output without serial console

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:17:44PM +0200, Lars Nood??n wrote: > What is a reasonable way to capture kernel debugger (ddb) output without > a serial console? I'm able to consistently get ifconfig to crash on the Take a photograph of the screen.

Re: halt -p does not power off ThinkPad X61 under 4.4

> used halt -p to shutdown the machine and walked away. The next morning i > found that while it appears to have shutdown correctly, the machine did > not power off but instead showed > > syncing disks...done > uchi2: host controller halted This bug has been supposedly fixed in OpenBSD -current

Re: halt -p does not power off ThinkPad X61 under 4.4

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 04:17:07AM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > Have you submitted a formal bug report (with a dmesg and debugger output > from ps and trace)? I myself have been attempting it, but every time > that this bug occurs it seems that I'm in a hurry to get somewhere,

Re: halt -p does not power off ThinkPad X61 under 4.4

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:32:13AM +0800, David Schulz wrote: > For the Record, I don't have a true Solution to the Issue yet, but i saw > a small flag in /etc/sysctl.conf that read machdep.apmhalt. After > enabling that and rebooting, halt -p now powers off my Machine 9 times > out of ten.

Re: halt -p does not power off ThinkPad X61 under 4.4

> i installed OpenBSD 4.4 on my ThinkPad X61, played a little bit, and > used halt -p to shutdown the machine and walked away. The next morning i > found that while it appears to have shutdown correctly, the machine did > not power off but instead showed > > syncing disks...done > uchi2: host c

Typo on OpenBSD 4.4 CD Set

I notice that there is a typographical error on the back cover of the OpenBSD 4.4 CD set. http://bsdly.net/~peter/44bergen02.jpg It says "This package contains the operating system and a selection of applications for the i386, macppc, amd64, sparc, and sparc64 architectures." This is incorr

Re: assembler noob question

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 07:16:55PM -0600, Philip Guenther wrote: > If you're just trying to learn the x86 instruction set, then why not > put your code in an __asm__() block inside a C program? That lets the > compiler do all the heavy lifting. Is there a man page that describes the __asm__ block

Re: OpenBSD project goals

> And troff. :-) The OpenBSD base install contains groff, not troff. (groff is 3rd party software maintained by Gnu.)

Re: OT: Dissertation ideas for my degree

> - A good TeX to html convertor (extensible) > - A good TeX gui There's a pretty good chance that TeX is going to become obsolete, and replaced by some HTML or XML derivative. Many technical publishers have already made the transition. See, for example, the following link from Cambridge Univers

Re: cwm keybindings misbehavior

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 03:37:57PM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > Note, I was told by one of the Fluxbox developers that I need to add the > following line > > xmodmap -e 'add Mod4 = Super_L' > > to my .xinitrc file if I want the Windows key to be well-behaved,

Re: cwm keybindings misbehavior

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 02:09:38PM +, Glenn Becker wrote: > one interesting one i have found is that M- will not work on firefox > if there are tabs/multiple pages open. I always configure my window managers to use the Windows key (i.e. Mod4) rather than Control or Alt (i.e. Meta). This prev

Re: Lastet supported jdk on OpenBSD

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:03:17PM -0300, John Nietzsche wrote: > i would like to add support for java on my 4.3 openbsd desktop. Has > anybody already done so? May you point a url where i could download > the package(s) from? As the previous posters have pointed out, there are no JDK binary packa

Re: Editing C with...

I learned emacs before vi, but I could never remember all of emacs' complicated keystrokes. It feels as though there are far fewer commands to memorize in vi, and the commands that I do memorize are also useful for writing sed scripts--so the payoff of a little memorization in vi is greater than t

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:17:58PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > radeonhd has any 3D ? 3D acceleration is not currently supported on OpenBSD, but work is being done to ensure that it will be supported in the future. A recent progress report, together with a description of the status of NVIDIA, AT

Re: Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M

> It's so fucking hard to find a correct laptop where most everything will > work correctly these days... Generally, the best-supported laptops on OpenBSD are the Lenovo ThinkPads. Detailed specifications of the individual chipsets in current ThinkPad models can be found at ftp://ftp.software.ib

Re: Rolling release?

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:03:13AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > Not sure about amount of time sacrificed each time to prepare new complete > release... but perhaps it could be spared, if the system+packages is > "refreshed" piece-by-piece / month-by-month? Who would buy CD's if there were a

Re: 4.3 mips version?

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 03:20:00PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > BTW, you don't mean mips. You mean sgi. mips is a cpu architecture, not > a machine. This is an issue that has always confused me. It is obvious that the binaries for OpenBSD must be different for each cpu architecture, but why ar

Re: install42.iso hangs....any ideas?

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 05:45:56AM -0700, Unix Fan wrote: > I thought DVD-RAM were unique in that, unlike DVD-RW, you can write to the > disk as if it's simply an optical hard drive... I have only used DVD+RW and CD media in my DVDRAM drive, so I cannot answer your question.

Re: install42.iso hangs....any ideas?

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:33:41PM -0700, Unix Fan wrote: > How well does OpenBSD support DVD-RAM drives? does the cd(4) driver support > read/write operations? - i.e: Would it be possible to use it as a normal > block device? I have successfully read and written several DVDs and CDs using OpenB

Re: install42.iso hangs....any ideas?

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:03:01PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > I could be wrong..it may be that only two people have ever tried to > install OpenBSD on a machine with a DVDRAM drive into OpenBSD, you and > me. Or maybe you and I are the only owners of defective DVDRAM drives. I have a DVDRAM dri

Re: Firefox 2.0.0.12

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:44:08PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > or, quit using firefox. it's security record is rather lousy, wouldn't > you agree? What alternatives to firefox do you suggest?

Re: Intel Core2 Dual/Quad - i386 or amd64?

> I have two computers I'm considering going amd64 on: Another thing to keep in mind is that there are some OpenBSD packages and ports that only run on i386. In particular, any software that requires Linux emulation (such as the opera-flashplugin) will not run on amd64. Doing a quick grep of the

Re: Intel Core2 Dual/Quad - i386 or amd64?

> I have two computers I'm considering going amd64 on: > > 1. My Thinkpad X61s (1GB RAM) It appears that the wireless driver your Thinkpad requires > wpi0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG" rev 0x02: apic 2 is not supported in OpenBSD/amd64. See http://www.openbsd.org/amd6

Re: minimac on openbsd

> doesn't support firewire. I don't know if the built in wireless works > as I've never tried it. It is recognized by the kernel: > > ath0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Atheros AR5424" rev 0x01: apic 2 int 17 (irq > 11) Atheros AR5424 wireless devices are not supported in OpenBSD. See http://m

Re: using openbsd to make presentations

> Question: Do you have any recommendation / suggestion to prepare talks > to be shown in a projector including mathematical equations, plots > and, eventually, movies (I can live without this last point)? HTML is probably the most portable solution for your problem, and movies would work fine too

Re: ath0 - not reachable - system hangs

> ath0 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 "Atheros AR2413" rev 0x01: irq 9 > ath0: AR2413 7.8 phy 4.5 rf 5.6, FCC2A*, address 00:1d:0f:af:98:88 According to the CVS log at http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/dev/ic/ath.c#rev1.56 "support is still incomplete" for the AR2413 chipset.

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Naming convention for programs

> I was thinking of verb-subject, or verb_subject, or viceversa. If you are writing a family of related programs, then the word that they have in common should be first. For example, in OpenBSD there are mount_cd9660 mount_ffs mount_msdos and so on. The fact that these programs perform rela

Re: The Dilbert Problem...

> I've been noticing a similar problem with Firefox on OpenBSD... I've also experienced this problem, but was never able to reproduce it. It would happen maybe once every month or two during normal web browsing (which in my case means 5 or more tabs simultaneously open in Firefox).

Re: compat_linux(8) has 2GB filesize limit in 4.2-stable

> The COMPAT_LINUX code is in dire need of an upgrade to match more recent > linux kernels... I certainly agree. For example, I need to compile a custom OpenBSD kernel with this patch http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119479722118605 just to get certain programs running under compat_linux.

Error in softraid documentation?

I recently noticed that the examples in the softraid man page http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=softraid contain many lines such as echo "d a\na\n\n\n\nRAID\nw\nq\n" | disklabel -E wd1 Of course, not every version of echo interprets "\n" as a newline. In fact, /bin/echo treats "\n

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

> There is also the question of ALSA compatibility layer which is in my > understanding slowly incorporated into OSS. Is it really important to have > ALSA compatibility layer? Can somebody give me an example of the software > which requires ALSA (please exclude Skype although there is OSS version

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