Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-10 Thread Loïc BLOT
Thanks for the precisions :). And no problem i you laugh because of me :p -- Best regards, Loïc BLOT, UNIX systems, security and network engineer http://www.unix-experience.fr Le mardi 08 juillet 2014 à 11:03 +0200, Henning Brauer a écrit : * InterNetX - Robert Garrett

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread InterNetX - Robert Garrett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is 0 chance this works on OpenBSD. The underlying concepts that not only make it possible on Dragonfly, but actually useful are not there. As Henning Brauer pointed out, this makes no sense if the underlying subsystems arent taken care of

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread InterNetX - Robert Garrett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 you will find ldap support within dfly -current.. and no you will not find nfsv4 rg On 07/06/2014 02:16 AM, Brad Smith wrote: On 05/07/14 8:01 PM, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Franco Fichtner write: I have immense respect for Matt as a user of his

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Franco Fichtner
On 08 Jul 2014, at 04:55, Henning Brauer hb-open...@ml.bsws.de wrote: * Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com [2014-07-06 00:29]: Missing SMP support is the fork in the road. The window of opportunity seems to be closing. A penny for Henning's thoughts on this... my thoughts are only worth

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Franco Fichtner
On 06 Jul 2014, at 01:01, Predrag Punosevac punoseva...@gmail.com wrote: The rumors are that npf is a vaporware. npf(4) is a chain of clever data structures. How well that translates to the actual requirements of the networking domain I can't see. DragonFly community is tiny. You mean alive

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com [2014-07-08 10:48]: On 08 Jul 2014, at 04:55, Henning Brauer hb-open...@ml.bsws.de wrote: And the possible pf MP gains are drasticly overrated anyway. I'm not sure. Maybe that's a stance that fits OpenBSD well, but in networking as a whole that's not

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* InterNetX - Robert Garrett robert.garr...@internetx.com [2014-07-08 09:42]: Uprading pf with [dfly's] set of changes to support [dfly's] locking mechanisms, is a seriously non trivial exercise. and 100% wasted as done. starting off an old, ancient, pf, which is roughly 4 times slower than

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Franco Fichtner
On 08 Jul 2014, at 09:58, Henning Brauer hb-open...@ml.bsws.de wrote: this has NOTHING to do with the problem or the question at hand. So then what has it to do with? You tell me I missed the obvious but don't provide your arguments. Lucky, I've been asked to leave this mailing list so you

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com [2014-07-08 11:20]: On 08 Jul 2014, at 09:58, Henning Brauer hb-open...@ml.bsws.de wrote: this has NOTHING to do with the problem or the question at hand. So then what has it to do with? You tell me I missed the obvious but don't provide your arguments.

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Lucky, I've been asked to leave this mailing list so you don't have to bother. Good luck. This is quite sad: polite confrontation is always good means of progress, whatever the topics.

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread sven falempin
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Henning Brauer hb-open...@ml.bsws.de wrote: * Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com [2014-07-06 00:29]: Missing SMP support is the fork in the road. The window of opportunity seems to be closing. A penny for Henning's thoughts on this... my thoughts are only

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* sven falempin sven.falem...@gmail.com [2014-07-08 14:16]: On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Henning Brauer hb-open...@ml.bsws.de wrote: * Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com [2014-07-06 00:29]: Missing SMP support is the fork in the road. The window of opportunity seems to be closing. A

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Joris Giovannangeli
Hi, Posting such a topic in such a list might probably sound a bit aggressive, but this patch should not be misinterpreted. I think it's clear to everybody that it would be great to update pf in dragonfly, but that's a lot of work and nobody is working on this. This patch followed a complaint on

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* Joris Giovannangeli jo...@giovannangeli.fr [2014-07-08 17:47]: Posting such a topic in such a list might probably sound a bit aggressive, but this patch should not be misinterpreted. I think it's clear to everybody that it would be great to update pf in dragonfly, but that's a lot of work

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-07 Thread Loïc Blot
It's a very interesting diff. If i have time i'll test it on -CURRENT on the two next weeks. -- Best regards, Loïc BLOT, Engineering UNIX Systems, Security and Network Engineer http://www.unix-experience.fr Le jeudi 03 juillet 2014 à 11:35 -0500, patric conant a écrit : This seems relevant

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-07 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | It's a very interesting diff. | | If i have time i'll test it on -CURRENT on the two next weeks. | | -- | Best regards, | | Loïc BLOT, Engineering | UNIX Systems, Security and Network Engineer | http://www.unix-experience.fr Considering that these patches use the

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-07 Thread Henning Brauer
* Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com [2014-07-06 00:29]: Missing SMP support is the fork in the road. The window of opportunity seems to be closing. A penny for Henning's thoughts on this... my thoughts are only worth pennies? :) ok, first thought: where's your diff? Not directed at Franco

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-07 Thread Henning Brauer
thanks for the laugh. * Loïc Blot loic.b...@unix-experience.fr [2014-07-07 10:21]: It's a very interesting diff. If i have time i'll test it on -CURRENT on the two next weeks. -- Best regards, Loïc BLOT, Engineering UNIX Systems, Security and Network Engineer

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
patric conant wrote: This seems relevant to a lot of interest. commit 3a0038bfb239dd522057809c52d7d23dd2134c38 Author: Matthew Dillon dillon at apollo.backplane.com http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/mailman/listinfo/commits Date: Thu Jun 26 20:40:32 2014 -0700 pf - make the bulk of PF

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-05 Thread Franco Fichtner
On 05 Jul 2014, at 23:42, Predrag Punosevac punoseva...@gmail.com wrote: I have immense respect for Matt as a user of his code since Amiga C compiler. I probably speak for lots of people both in OpenBSD and DragonFly camp if I say that I would prefer him to finish HAMMER2 and leave concurrent

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Franco Fichtner write: I have immense respect for Matt as a user of his code since Amiga C compiler. I probably speak for lots of people both in OpenBSD and DragonFly camp if I say that I would prefer him to finish HAMMER2 and leave concurrent threading in PF to Henning. Talks about this

Re: Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-05 Thread Brad Smith
On 05/07/14 8:01 PM, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Franco Fichtner write: I have immense respect for Matt as a user of his code since Amiga C compiler. I probably speak for lots of people both in OpenBSD and DragonFly camp if I say that I would prefer him to finish HAMMER2 and leave concurrent

Dragonflybsd's pf concurrent instead of single-threaded

2014-07-03 Thread patric conant
This seems relevant to a lot of interest. commit 3a0038bfb239dd522057809c52d7d23dd2134c38 Author: Matthew Dillon dillon at apollo.backplane.com http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/mailman/listinfo/commits Date: Thu Jun 26 20:40:32 2014 -0700 pf - make the bulk of PF concurrent under normal