Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-11-01 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 02:26:37PM -0800, Karsten McMinn wrote: On 10/31/06, Berk D. Demir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under 1 second... Even Firefox... I can not achieve similar even with prebind'ed binaries on an Athlon64 3500+ with more than 1GB empty DDR2 memory to scratch. I took a

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-11-01 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 11/1/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Additionally, as pointed out, it isn't enabled yet. I take you mean by default. I've playing with it and it seems to be doing something. I really should go read some of the diffs and tech@ to get an idea where its being loaded. firefox runs

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-11-01 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:43:55AM -0800, Karsten McMinn wrote: On 11/1/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Additionally, as pointed out, it isn't enabled yet. I take you mean by default. I've playing with it and it seems to be doing something. I really should go read some of the

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-31 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 10/19/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's true, but once everything is loaded and the system has been running long enough to figure out what belongs in swap and what belongs in memory, simple stuff shouldn't take too long. Simple stuff like opening an xterm. following up,

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-31 Thread Berk D. Demir
Karsten McMinn wrote: apps are loading in under a second (including firefox) and with the eye candy all turned on. Under 1 second... Even Firefox... I can not achieve similar even with prebind'ed binaries on an Athlon64 3500+ with more than 1GB empty DDR2 memory to scratch. Good for you.

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-31 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 10/31/06, Berk D. Demir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under 1 second... Even Firefox... I can not achieve similar even with prebind'ed binaries on an Athlon64 3500+ with more than 1GB empty DDR2 memory to scratch. I took a stopwatch to it and firefox is 2.5 seconds. In other words it loads in

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-31 Thread Theo de Raadt
is the new prebinding code in 4.0? The code is there. It is not being used by anything yet. There are things which need to be worked out.

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-31 Thread Peter Valchev
is the new prebinding code in 4.0? The code is there. It is not being used by anything yet. There are things which need to be worked out. and this stuff is documented in the ldconfig(8) manpage, see -P, if you want to play.

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-19 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/10/19 10:03, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: dillo is fast but useless. You can get the same thing with any of the console browsers like w3m,lynx,elinks etc... anyone who hasn't tried w3m might have a surprise if they run w3m-*-image in an xterm.

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-19 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:03:37AM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:42:45PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: I'm not sure about KDE, but rxvt loads pretty fast (10ms?) on ion. And this is not exactly new hardware (neomagic driver, Thinkpad 390X). aterm takes .5

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Jeff Quast
On 10/17/06, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done in order to get fast 2d xorg (and friends) performance. I term fast as not having to wait for window operations, with most every application and xorg opertation taking no longer than 100ms. if

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Documentation is key! http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card that is well supported. The 9200 looks promising. I was able to find a

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Greg Thomas
On 10/18/06, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Documentation is key! http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card that is well

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:55:10AM -0700, Karsten McMinn wrote: On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Documentation is key! http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:42:45PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: I'm not sure about KDE, but rxvt loads pretty fast (10ms?) on ion. And this is not exactly new hardware (neomagic driver, Thinkpad 390X). aterm takes .5 seconds due to the transparent background, and dillo takes about 1 second

Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-17 Thread Karsten McMinn
I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done in order to get fast 2d xorg (and friends) performance. I term fast as not having to wait for window operations, with most every application and xorg opertation taking no longer than 100ms. if anyone experiences this kind of performance in any xorg

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-17 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/17/06, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done in order to get fast 2d xorg (and friends) performance. I term fast as not having to wait for window operations, with most every application and xorg opertation taking no longer than 100ms. if

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-17 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 10/17/06, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you mean if anyone experiences anything that bad? i've never had a window operation take as long as 100ms even using the vesa driver. the example closest to me at the moment is a desktop I work on: OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar 2

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-17 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:37:32PM -0700, Karsten McMinn wrote: OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar 2 02:26:48 MST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2 GHz cpu0: