On Tuesday 23 August 2005 14:31, Matthias Kilian wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:52:40PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> > Because startkde is a script that will invoke startx which will by
> > default (meaning if you don't have a .xinitrc in your homedir) use
> > /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc wher
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:25 PM
> To: Will H. Backman
> Cc: j knight; Misc OpenBSD
> Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion
>
> On 8/23/05, Will H. Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
Hi Steve,
On 8/23/05, STeve Andre' wrote:
>
> I would avoid all this and use the 'mtools' package instead. It deals
> with msdos fat-12(?) floppies, and is tons easier to use. Then you
> can hand those floppies to others and they can read/write them.
Using fat on the floppy is not an option. I
On 8/23/05, Will H. Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: j knight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 4:47 PM
> > To: Will H. Backman
> > Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion
> >
> > --- Quoting Will H. Backman on 2005/08/23 at 14:59
This is an English mailinglist, so please don't speak Dutch. If you'de like to
speak Dutch, mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . And by the way, why should this be
OpenBSD related?
Jasper
Stuur het maar naar [EMAIL PROTECTED] in het Engels, daar hoort het thuis. Als
het
over OpenBSD gaat tenminste...
> Secondly, it seems pretty pointless to setup pf on a single host.
That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day. Lots of people
run servers and must block them, on the same machine. Probably every
single one of us.
> Inste
--On 23 August 2005 17:25 -0400, Jason Crawford wrote:
Secondly, it seems pretty pointless to setup pf on a single host.
It has it's uses - spamd, for one...
Josh Grosse wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 11:29:18AM +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
>
>>...
>>Do you know of any disk test or utility program that can stress the disk
>>to work hard until it fails?
>
Oh, thanks, but I tried to do it a month ago from my Linux box and this
is an old disk that doe
Jernej Vodopivec wrote:
> forgot to cc:
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Jernej Vodopivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Aug 23, 2005 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Complete disk disaster
> To: Ramiro Aceves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> On 8/23/05, Ramiro Aceves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--On 23 August 2005 21:48 +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote:
Rebuild libdb with debugging enabled:
$ cd /usr/ports/databases/db/v4
$ make uninstall
$ DEBUG=-g make install
Thanks, that's helpful.
# gdb /tmp/ex_env
GNU gdb 6.3
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, cov
Hello -
I have vlan0 mapped on to fxp0
I have vlan1 mapped on to fxp0 as well.
I have carp0 mapped on to vlan0
I have carp1 mapped on to vlan1
I have carp2 mapped on to fxp1 (internal)
If I unplug the cable on fxp1, everything works.
If I unplug the cable on fxp0, the second box changes to MASTE
Hi,
On 8/23/05, J.C. Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:58:47 +0200, Michael Adam
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >[...]
> >First of all, a floppy needs to be low level formatted, which can be
> >achieved by the fdformat program. (Ususally, this is not necessary
> >nowad
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 05:25:14PM -0400, Jason Crawford wrote:
| First off, it should be, set skip on lo0 (or lo, but by default
| there's only one lo interface anyways). Secondly, it seems pretty
| pointless to setup pf on a single host. Instead of worrying about the
| firewall, which takes up mo
--On 23 August 2005 18:26 -0400, David Hill wrote:
Is it possible to have fxp0 flag vlan0, then vlan0 flag carp0 that
the link is down?
yes, in -current. plus.html says: "Make vlan(4) aware of the underlying
link state, and report that up to other interfaces layered on top."
> > That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day. Lots of people
> > run servers and must block them, on the same machine. Probably every
> > single one of us.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you're going to run a
> server, what's the point of blocking it? Might as well t
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 11:41:10PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> --On 23 August 2005 18:26 -0400, David Hill wrote:
>
> >Is it possible to have fxp0 flag vlan0, then vlan0 flag carp0 that
> >the link is down?
>
> yes, in -current. plus.html says: "Make vlan(4) aware of the underlying
> link s
> I never said that. PF isn't the only way to block packets, like TCP
> wrappers or ACL's within the server itself.
That is horse shit, and shows that you don't know how actual code works.
I prefer to filter problems BEFORE THE ACTUAL CODE RUNS. Perhaps you
don't know what a pre-authentication bu
On 8/23/05, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --On 23 August 2005 17:25 -0400, Jason Crawford wrote:
>
> > Secondly, it seems pretty pointless to setup pf on a single host.
>
> It has it's uses - spamd, for one...
>
Which is already covered in the spamd man page and doesn't need
anot
Brandon Mercer wrote:
> Matthew Bettinger wrote:
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW
>>that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine
>>that has SCSI drives with Mirror Raid capabilities. I know I can go
>>piecemeal one from F
On 8/23/05, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Secondly, it seems pretty pointless to setup pf on a single host.
>
>
>
> That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day. Lots of people
> run servers and must block them
On 2005-08-23 20:40:20 +0200, Jernej Vodopivec wrote:
> Please be more specific:
> That is bad advice because
Please learn to quote.
If badblocks actually reports bad blocks, the hd is broken and
must be replaced.
Best
Martin
--
http://www.tm.oneiros.de
> > Your statements are beyond ridiculous. You are saying "If you need
> > to filter it, you should not be running it".
>
> X doesn't have to listen on TCP 6000, you can setup a unix socket, and
> it's no longer reachable from the network, and you still have full
> functionality (I know, I do jus
On 8/23/05, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day. Lots of people
> > > run servers and must block them, on the same machine. Probably every
> > > single one of us.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you're going to ru
> -Original Message-
> From: Theo de Raadt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:53 PM
> To: Jason Crawford
> Cc: Will H. Backman; j knight; Misc OpenBSD
> Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion
>
> > > Your statements are beyond ridiculous. You are saying "If you
n
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 17:25 -0400, Jason Crawford wrote:
> Secondly, it seems pretty pointless to setup pf on a single host.
I beg to differ. man pf.conf, and look at the "user" and "group"
keywords.
--
Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have a freshly installed IBM x335 that installed without major issues
(using cd37.iso). There's two bge(4) controllers onboard. It seems during
any transfers that are greater than 2K text files seems to make network
connectivity "hang." Has anyone encoutered issues with this hardware? A
dmesg(8)
On 8/23/05, Will H. Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I agree in general, but then start adding the gnome or kde desktop or
> other applications and you never know what is listening.
>
what the hell?
> Oh, thanks, but I tried to do it a month ago from my Linux box and this
> is an old disk that does not have the SMART thing. :-(
At the price of storage media these days, you may aswell just buy another disk.
Regards
Edd
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 06:57:43PM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Theo de Raadt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:53 PM
> > To: Jason Crawford
> > Cc: Will H. Backman; j knight; Misc OpenBSD
> > Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggest
On 8/23/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brandon Mercer wrote:
> > Matthew Bettinger wrote:
> >>Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW
> >>that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine
> >>that has SCSI drives with Mirror Raid capabilities. I
Kevin wrote:
> On 8/23/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Brandon Mercer wrote:
>>
>>>Matthew Bettinger wrote:
>>>
Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW
that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine
that has SCSI drives with Mirr
On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote:
If you can go beyond the big vendors, you might also look at smaller
companies that support OpenBSD. Iron Systems, Sera Systems, etc.
I've been getting quotes from Iron Systems the last few days. I
haven't ordered any of their hardware yet, but the
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jason Dixon
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:33 PM
> To: Kevin
> Cc: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: 1U server recommendation
>
> On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote:
>
> > If you can go beyond
--On 23 August 2005 21:48 +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote:
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 07:54:56PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote:
Simplifying things I've tested with
/usr/local/share/examples/db4/ex_env.c which has also been hanging
sometimes when it does 'dbenv->open'.
Same problem here (with a four
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, George R. wrote:
> New York City BSD Conference (NYCBSDCon), a one day technical conference
> hosted by the New York City *BSD User Group, will be held on Saturday,
> September 17th at Columbia University.
>
> The all day conference will include a variety of speakers represen
There is an example:
set pf=YES in /etc/rc.conf.local reboot
pfctl -sr will give you:
block drop all
pass on lo0 all
pass in proto tcp from any to any port = ssh keep state
pass out proto tcp from any to any port = domain keep state
pass out proto udp from any to any port = domain keep state
pa
On 8/23/05, Matthew Bettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason Dixon wrote:
> > On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote:
> > > If you can go beyond the big vendors, you might also look at
> > smaller companies that support OpenBSD. Iron Systems, ...
> >
> > I've been getting quotes from Iron Sy
Matthew Bettinger wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Dixon
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:33 PM
To: Kevin
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: 1U server recommendation
On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote:
If you can
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jason Dixon wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote:
>
> > If you can go beyond the big vendors, you might also look at smaller
> > companies that support OpenBSD. Iron Systems, Sera Systems, etc.
>
> I've been getting quotes from Iron Systems the last few days.
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Don Boling wrote:
SNIP
> Are their sales staff very knowledgeable? Dell's are not!
> The Dell rep asked me what kind of "Windows version", BSD was.
> He was schooled.
>
> --don
they speak BSD just fine
diana
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Kevin wrote:
> I've been getting quotes from Bob Sidhu at Iron Systems for the last
> few hours, he's been very responsive to my queries regarding serial
> BIOS redirection and OpenBSD supported cards.
Bob Sidhu has always been very helpful to me in the past. Iron Systems
ev
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 16:53:25 -0600, Theo de Raadt proclaimed...
> It is plain simple bad advice. And totally ridiculous.
And plus, with ipv6, it's imperative that the filters be pushed down to the
end-host so we can quit relying on stupid firewalls and NAT bullshit to
break networks and slow p
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:53:25 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> You're wrong. Everyone -- run pf wherever you find it easier.
Followed this discussion with interest.
Doing the same thing (running pf) on my single-ended boxes; I actually
questioned myself why all of this is not part of the base instal
On 8/24/05, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You've got to use your head, otherwise you'll stick your neck out and
> say stupid things.
>
> Of course not. HOW CAN IT? Get real! The hardware is STILL only
> providing permissions at the page level!
>
just one quick question.
where do
On 8/24/05, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/23/05, Will H. Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: j knight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 4:47 PM
> > > To: Will H. Backman
> > > Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ sug
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Siju George wrote:
> just one quick question.
> where do I actually learn more about page, buffer, malloc etc??
> Is this book enough?
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0201549794/openbsdA/104-8401808-3342305
>
> or are there other good books out there?
it's useful
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 18:29:48 -0500, eric proclaimed...
> I have a freshly installed IBM x335 that installed without major issues
> (using cd37.iso). There's two bge(4) controllers onboard. It seems during
> any transfers that are greater than 2K text files seems to make network
> connectivity "h
This has been discussed before. I think many people here agree this
would be very useful. Some has even volunteered to do it, but I
haven't found anything in Google about it yet.
So, the question is ?has anybody made it?, otherwise, ?is anybody
willing to do it?
--
Gerardo Santana
On 8/24/05, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Siju George wrote:
>
> > just one quick question.
> > where do I actually learn more about page, buffer, malloc etc??
> > Is this book enough?
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0201549794/openbsdA/104-8401808-3342
2005/8/24, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> This has been discussed before. I think many people here agree this
> would be very useful. Some has even volunteered to do it, but I
> haven't found anything in Google about it yet.
>
> So, the question is ?has anybody made it?, othe
Hi Joel
j knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have tried to change Network and Netmask in the [default-route]
> > section from 0.0.0.0 to the network and netmask of one of the vlan
> > subnetworks, but it does not help. I can still connect to the other
> > subnet if I define them in the clien
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