Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Leslie Mikesell wrote: > Do you happen to know of anyone doing xml/xsl processing in > servlets? A programmer here has written some nice looking stuff > but it appears that the JVM is never garbage-collecting and > will just grow and get slower until someone restarts it. I

dynamically set AuthUserFile

2000-04-17 Thread Scott Alexander
Hi, I'm using part of the URL to tell perl::dbi what DB to connect to. www.mysite.com/mydb/index.html will connect to mydb. I will be creating many different environments. At the moment I edit the httpd.conf file as I add each environment. How can I tell apache what AuthUserFile to use dynam

RE: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Paul G. Weiss
Is this still true under 5.6, now that weak references are available? -P > -Original Message- > From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 4:14 AM > To: Leslie Mikesell > Cc: (Gunther Birznieks); [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Modperl/Apache deficienc

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread shane
Gunther- (What follows is some servlet talk... and anyone interested in a mod_perl garbage collector?) > If you want the ultimate in clean models, you may want to consider coding > in Java Servlets. It tends to be longer to write Java than Perl, but it's > much cleaner as all memory is shared a

RE: Segfault on DBI->Connect

2000-04-17 Thread Drew Degentesh
Jochen, > If you are using the DBD-mysql sources, as distributed by me, the > mysql_real_connect function will *never* be called with a NULL > argument. This cannot happen, if mysql_init() is called before > mysql_real_connect(). (Unless you are using some patches that I have > recently reached m

RE: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Paul G. Weiss wrote: > Is this still true under 5.6, now that weak references > are available? Yes. You still have to do a lot of re-implementation to make weak refs work, and your users have to have the WeakRef module from CPAN. Not a nice situation. -- Fastnet Software

[OT] mysql-modules for Win32 platform

2000-04-17 Thread Erich Markert
I've been trying to get the msql-mysql-modules compiled and installed on my Win98 machine for a couple weeks without much luck. I tried using the latest version of perl 5.6 from active state but ran into nothing but problems. Basically running perl Makefile.PL for Data::ShowTable (a required mod

RE: [RFC] Transitioning from Apache::Registry to Apache handlers

2000-04-17 Thread Vivek Khera
> "SB" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SB> Of course, anyone has a sample section handy? I'm still an SB> C fan, to be changed soon :) I don't see what sections have to do with using or not Apache::Registry instead of handlers... But, I've been toying with the idea of writing a

RE: [RFC] Transitioning from Apache::Registry to Apache handlers

2000-04-17 Thread Stas Bekman
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > "SB" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > SB> Of course, anyone has a sample section handy? I'm still an > SB> C fan, to be changed soon :) > > I don't see what sections have to do with using or not > Apache::Registry instead of handle

Re: [summary] Re: front end proxy and virtual hosts

2000-04-17 Thread Vivek Khera
Looks good; I'd recommend keeping *.html files on the front-end as well, since they tend to be static, and also any traditional *.cgi since they don't need mod_perl's bloat on the fork/exec. Also, specifying "Port 80" inside each virtual on the back-end is not necessary, though perhaps setting a

Re: [OT] mysql-modules for Win32 platform

2000-04-17 Thread Steve Hay
Erich Markert wrote: > I've been trying to get the msql-mysql-modules compiled and installed on > my Win98 machine for a couple weeks without much luck. I managed to get these working on NT4 with both 5.005_03 and 5.6.0 (both built myself from the standard distribution, not the ActiveState build

RE: [RFC] Transitioning from Apache::Registry to Apache handlers

2000-04-17 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > But, I've been toying with the idea of writing an Apache::Dispatch > module that would take all URL's of the form something like > > http://localhost/perl/My/Module/handlerfunc > > and dispatch the call to My::Module::handlerfunc() > > Assuming that My

Re: [RFC] Transitioning from Apache::Registry to Apache handlers

2000-04-17 Thread Drew Taylor
Matt Sergeant wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > But, I've been toying with the idea of writing an Apache::Dispatch > > module that would take all URL's of the form something like > > > > http://localhost/perl/My/Module/handlerfunc > > > > and dispatch the call to My::Modul

Re: [RFC] Transitioning from Apache::Registry to Apache handlers

2000-04-17 Thread Vivek Khera
> "DT" == Drew Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DT> are beginning the transition to Apache handlers. One other thing that I DT> would love is a module to do checkboxes/pull-down list generation ALA DT> CGI.pm. I might rip off some code and create a module myself. I think it Have a look at

RE: [RFC] Transitioning from Apache::Registry to Apache handlers

2000-04-17 Thread Vivek Khera
> "MS" == Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> adding handlers as easy as adding Registry scripts. I guess it is >> sort of an ultra-light-weight Registry, in some sense. MS> I've got something pretty similar. Let me know if you want some code. Sure; it is always good to see other

RE: [RFC] Transitioning from Apache::Registry to Apache handlers

2000-04-17 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > "MS" == Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> adding handlers as easy as adding Registry scripts. I guess it is > >> sort of an ultra-light-weight Registry, in some sense. > > MS> I've got something pretty similar. Let me know if you w

Help needed with Apache::AuthCookie 2.007

2000-04-17 Thread Kenneth Frankel
Could someone provide a good FAQ or example of how to impliment this thing? The package documentation's "just copy the test script" example I'm sure is a great time-saver for the author but when one has problems it's really a pain with all the unrelated testing code. I'm having problems and

Apache::AuthCookie or Apache::AuthDBI or Apache::???

2000-04-17 Thread Kenneth Frankel
What's the best way to authenticate users? I have a site where the entire site is to be protected. I want to log users in at the front of the web site, and keep them logged in as they travel around. I was trying to get AuthCookie to work but haven't been successful so far. Should I continue

[FIXED] make test indicates server won't start

2000-04-17 Thread Steven D. Arnold
I previously posted a question regarding installing mod_perl. Specifically, when I ran "make test", the script said it started the server, then said it was still waiting for the server to warm up, and finally died. I had built mod_perl in a directory within my home directory. The permission

Re: [Slightly OT] IPC::Open3 broken in mod_perl/perl 5.6.0?

2000-04-17 Thread Richard Titmuss
Hi, I have also had this problem. I checked the modperl-cvs archive and this problem has been fixed in the development release. I still have an problem using IPC::Open2. This can be demonstrated by: use IPC::Open2; $pid = open2(\*A, \*B, '/usr/bin/ls'); The error log shows: [e

Re: Apache::AuthCookie or Apache::AuthDBI or Apache::???

2000-04-17 Thread Vivek Khera
> "KF" == Kenneth Frankel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KF> What's the best way to authenticate users? I have a site where the entire KF> site is to be protected. I want to log users in at the front of the web For a site whose contents are entirely protected, I'd use basic auth with a cooki

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Perrin Harkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now with modperl the Perl garbage collector is > NEVER used. Because the reference count of those variables is never > decremented... it's because it's all in the registry, and it's hard to > tell... hmm... what should I throw away, and what should I keep? ;-). What I

Fw: Apache::Registry error message?

2000-04-17 Thread Jason Terry
OK, it happended again. Here is the error log snippet Can't undef active subroutine at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/Apache/Registry.pm line 102. I think i may know a little more about the cause this time thought. It happened immediatly after I made a VERY minor change (put quo

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread shane
On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 11:12:24AM -0700, Perrin Harkins wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Now with modperl the Perl garbage collector is > > NEVER used. Because the reference count of those variables is never > > decremented... it's because it's all in the registry, and it's hard to > > tell

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Jim Winstead
On Apr 18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 11:12:24AM -0700, Perrin Harkins wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Now with modperl the Perl garbage collector is > > > NEVER used. Because the reference count of those variables is never > > > decremented... it's because it's

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread shane
> > Go out of scope, yes. Destroyed, no. Want to test? No problem. Do > the following in a perl script. > > my($funnything); > print"Value of funnything is $funnything"; > $funnything="Uh oh... check this out"; > > You'll find some interesting results on your second interation :-). > Even f

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Jason Terry
This is the first i have seen "delete" referenced. What does it do? How is it used? Thank you -Jason - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage. > > > > Go

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Jim Winstead
I get it. You're talking about Apache::Registry scripts. http://perl.apache.org/guide/perl.html#my_Scoped_Variable_in_Nested_S Jim

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread shane
On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 01:33:08PM -0600, Jason Terry wrote: > This is the first i have seen "delete" referenced. What does it do? How is it used? > > Thank you > -Jason It's the stack cleaner... but it only works for scalars, and maybe arrays, but its better for arrays and hashes to do

mod_perl with jpl

2000-04-17 Thread Paul G. Weiss
I have a requirement to make use of some third party software written in Java. I would like to get my mod_perl based scripts to talk to this software. To that end I am interested in the jpl shipped with 5.6. Has anyone successfully integrated this with mod_perl on Solaris? If so, how did you b

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Autarch
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Go out of scope, yes. Destroyed, no. Want to test? No problem. Do > the following in a perl script. > > my($funnything); > print"Value of funnything is $funnything"; > $funnything="Uh oh... check this out"; This only happens with Apache::Regist

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Perrin Harkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > my $i=0; > dosomefunnierstuff(); > sub dosomefunnierstuff { > my $funnierstuff; > if($funnierstuff=~/funnier/) { > dosomefunnierstuff(); > } else { > $funnierstuff="funnier".$i++; > } > print "Funnie

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Jason Simms
>This is the first i have seen "delete" referenced. What does it do? >How >is it used? Well, you should read the manuyal, or "Programming Perl" for the real answer. Or, were you speaking in reference to delete() specifically under mod_perl? In either case, delete() removes the specified ke

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread shane
You're right. I am mistaken :-(. Just tested it, and it was something silly in an old script I had lying around that I thought was a bug... my mistake. (Note to self: Test all examples before posting... or you look like an idiot :-) ) Sorry, Shane. > I think you're mistaken. Try the following

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Re: Apache::ASP problem, example index.html not working

2000-04-17 Thread Dmitri Chtchourov
- Original Message - From: Andy Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:13 PM Subject: RE: Apache::ASP problem, example index.html not working > Hi, this is Andy again. > > It's about that, after I installed the ASP patch, all > other *.asp are wo

Re: Help needed with Apache::AuthCookie 2.007

2000-04-17 Thread Ken Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Frankel) wrote: >Could someone provide a good FAQ or example of how to impliment this >thing? The package documentation's "just copy the test script" example I'm >sure is a great time-saver for the author but when one has problems it's >really a pain with all the unr

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Ken Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 01:33:08PM -0600, Jason Terry wrote: >> This is the first i have seen "delete" referenced. What does it do? >> How is it used? >> >> Thank you >> -Jason > >It's the stack cleaner... but it only works for scalars, and maybe >arrays, but its

Re: mod_perl with jpl

2000-04-17 Thread Gunther Birznieks
I am not going to answer your question directly because I don't know the answer. However, consider that not many people use jpl. Therefore, it is likely that it has more bugs than other parts of Perl. Also consider that the software you use may end up disliking the process model and rely on i

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Gunther Birznieks
While I agree that a true garbage collector would be cool. I wonder what the utility would really be when you would primarily want it in mod_perl type stuff. Yet, mod_perl is also great because of speed. One of the nice things about Perl right now is that it is fast and that is partially due to

RE: Compiler errors...

2000-04-17 Thread Robert Jenks
Title: RE: Compiler errors... Well this does work better, but as I found out, it doesn't solve my problem.  While this does catch runtime errors, it doesn't catch compile-time errors when using Apache::StatINC.  However thanks to your hint on how to do this, I was able to patch Apache::StatI

RE: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Jeff Stuart
Shane, question for you. No offense intended here at all but what do you have in your apache servers (other than mod_perl) that use 4 to 6 MB? I've got one server that I'm working on that handles close 1 Mil hits per day than runs WITH mod_perl that uses 4 to 6 MB. ;-) Without mod_perl, it tak

RE: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Gunther Birznieks
If you aren't careful with your programming, an apache HTTPD can always grow pretty quickly because Perl never releases the RAM it allocates previously. While it does that reference count garbage collection, that is internal to the RAM that was allocated. Let's say you need to sort a record se

Re: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Stas Bekman
> [ By the way, Stas - is there a CVS version of the guide that I can make > patches against? I found a few inaccuracies. ] Yeah, but it's not accessible for people from the outside. I think I'll start using the same mechanism apache.org does -- rolling out CVS snapshots every few hours. At thi

RE: Modperl/Apache deficiencies... Memory usage.

2000-04-17 Thread Jeff Stuart
I understand that. :) And that was something that I had to learn myself. :) It's a BAD thing when suddenly your httpd process takes up 100 MB. :) It's just that it sounded like Shane was saying that his httpds were starting OUT at 4 to 6 MB. That sounded a little unusual to me but then again,

[RFC] Do Not Run Everything on One mod_perl Server

2000-04-17 Thread Stas Bekman
Let's assume that you have two different sets of scripts/code which have a little or nothing in common at all (different modules, no base code sharing), the basic mod_perl process before the code have been loaded of three Mbytes and each code base adds ten Mbytes when loaded. Which makes each pro