Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Owen Boyle
Nick Tonkin wrote: Personally I find the very name Apache a little uncomfortable.. ... but the relevance of an http server to the Apache nation escapes me (and the symbolizing of the Apache nation with a feather strikes me as stereotypical at best). Most of you will have seen, at least in

Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
Randal 42 billion has the right sound to it. It's "the answer", after all, Randal a billion times over. :) I like it! Maybe a big round pearl with a smiley-face and a headband with feather sticking up in the back with the words "Don't Panic" in large friendly letters printed below :)

Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Bakki Kudva
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:11:13 -0500 Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, we may have a winner with the Native American and lamp idea. A coworker suggested a peace pipe (picture an indian smoking perl) instead of a lamp, since you don't see warriors holding lamps often. maybe

Re: dbm locking info in the guide

2001-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Perrin Harkins wrote: Stas Bekman wrote: So basically what you are saying is that sync() is broken and shouldn't be used at all. Something fishy is going on. The purpose of sync() is to flush the modifications to the disk. Saving changes to disk isn't the problem.

Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Piers Cawley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: still need more suggestions for a theme that aren't tongue-in-cheek, lol! Why, I thought that was the idea!!! Geoffrey well, of course - but much folly leaves the list

Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Steve Reppucci
Well, I've been resisting any replies here, especially since I've *never* been accused of being "politically correct", but since we're tossing in pennies, here are my two: I agree that the use of *any* symbols of a race or religion to represent a sports team (or anything else of that ilk) is at

[Take23] New IRC channel

2001-03-21 Thread Matt Sergeant
I've created an IRC channel for Take23 on irc.openprojects.net. Please feel free to come along and say Hi. http://take23.org/news/2001/03/21/irc.xml -- Matt/ /||** Founder and CTO ** ** http://axkit.com/ ** //||** AxKit.com Ltd ** ** XML Application Serving

RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
I realize that the subject is OT, but let's not get into a political (or whatever) debate on the list. there will be no images of anything picking on any particular demographic (be it Python or Native Americans) so please take this discussion offline... I am sorry this turned into something

RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Paul
--- Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, we may have a winner with the Native American and lamp idea. A coworker suggested a peace pipe (picture an indian smoking perl) instead of a lamp, since you don't see warriors holding lamps often. maybe some smoke signals? Thought

[Very OT] Politically Correct-ness (was: RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF)

2001-03-21 Thread Paul
--- Nick Tonkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Dave Rolsky wrote: . . . I for one would appreciate a design that doesn't fetishize a culture and people that have already had enough abuse at the hands of 'American' people. Hear, hear. Personally I find the very name

[ANNOUNCE] Apache::ProxyRewrite 0.14

2001-03-21 Thread Christian Gilmore
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Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On 21 Mar 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: You mean apart from the trademark infringement? I know, what about "mod_perl is my bNO CARRIER All your base are belong to mod_perl ?? MBM g, d rlh -- Matthew Byng-Maddick Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 20 8980 5714 (Home) http://colondot.net/ Work:

Re: dbm locking info in the guide

2001-03-21 Thread Perrin Harkins
Ok, what about calling sync before accesing the database? (read and write) Will it force the process to sync its data with the disk, or will it cause the corruption of the file on the disk, as the process might have a stale data? Well, that's what we don't know. As David Harris pointed out,

RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Dave Baker
[extensive snippage] How about a bunch of white shirts? One magic marker per shirt and everyone can draw their own picture of a computer. alternatively, "No-one could decide on an image so all we got was this lousy sentence." Dave

Re: [Very OT] Politically Correct-ness (was: RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF)

2001-03-21 Thread Jim Winstead
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 08:14:53AM -0800, Paul wrote: --- Nick Tonkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I find the very name Apache a little uncomfortabl. I get the joke about it being a patchy server (although now the ratio of original NCSA code to `new' code is so miniscule as to

%ENV via PerlTransHandler

2001-03-21 Thread Paul Evad
question: how does one access the environment variables when using mod_perl as a transhandler? I notice that $r-subprocess_env-do(sub { my($key, $value) = @_; $r-warn("$key = $value\n"); 1;

Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Pierre Phaneuf
Steve Reppucci wrote: Some folks spend way too much time looking for something to be offended by, again IMHO. I'm pretty sure that for any thing you might find, I would be able to find someone offended by it. Let's no do anything too obvious (a camel ramming up stuff up Bill Gates ass would

Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Alexander Farber (EED)
Bakki Kudva wrote: Just look at the sports teams. You couldn't have a team called the Washington Kikes or the Washington Micks. But yet you can have the Washington Redskins and this Indian with a big nose and big lips running around. How would you feel if it was the Washington Rabbis and you

Renegotiate Language

2001-03-21 Thread Joachim Zobel
Hi. I want to use content negotiation to choose a starting language and return appropriate content. I know how to do that with mod_negotiate. What I would like to add is the possibility for the user to add a language. Therefore I want the server to renegotiate the language with different

Re: [Very OT] Politically Correct-ness (was: RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF)

2001-03-21 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Jim Winstead wrote: another note to throw out there -- o'reilly claims trademarks on the camel/perl association and the mod_perl/eagle association, so someone will either need to get permission from them to print a shirt perpetuating those associations, or come up with a

RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread julie wang
Hey! I really like the "camel ramming up stuff up Bill Gates ass" one! Can we go with that? No? Crap! -Original Message- From: pp [mailto:pp]On Behalf Of Pierre Phaneuf Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:52 AM To: mod_perl list Subject: Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF Steve Reppucci wrote:

Re: Renegotiate Language

2001-03-21 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Joachim Zobel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. I want to use content negotiation to choose a starting language and return appropriate content. I know how to do that with mod_negotiate. What I would like to add is the possibility for the user to add a language. Therefore I want the server

RE: %ENV via PerlTransHandler

2001-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
-Original Message- From: Paul Evad To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3/21/01 1:36 PM Subject: %ENV via PerlTransHandler question: how does one access the environment variables when using mod_perl as a transhandler? what kind of stuff are you expecting HTTP_REFERER and company via

Getting MAC address

2001-03-21 Thread John Whitnack
Is there a way to get a person MAC address using apache, mod_perl or javascript. I have yet to find a way to do this? I need a way to uniquely identify the computer a person is using (i.e. not ip address). John Whitnack

Re[2]: understanding memory via ps -ely | grep http

2001-03-21 Thread z88-list-26
What's about FreeBSD? If shared memory is not compiled in kernel of FreeBSD I cant use GTop module because of absant of shared memory. So I dont know is there performance affect or not. In case apache is compiled as DSO and mod_perl is a loadable module, how mod_perl will use shared memory(i.e.

Re: Getting MAC address

2001-03-21 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, John Whitnack wrote: Is there a way to get a person MAC address using apache, mod_perl or javascript. I have yet to find a way to do this? I need a way to uniquely identify the computer a person is using (i.e. not ip address). Bear in mind that a MAC address is something

Re: Getting MAC address

2001-03-21 Thread Emad Fanous
John Whitnack wrote: Is there a way to get a person MAC address using apache, mod_perl or javascript. I have yet to find a way to do this? I need a way to uniquely identify the computer a person is using (i.e. not ip address). John Whitnack No. This information should not be available

Re: Getting MAC address

2001-03-21 Thread ___cliff rayman___
you can only get a MAC address for those machines which are on your same subnet. if you are using linux/unix try: arp sorry - but there is no reliable way to identify machines across the internet. that is why there are 'cookies'. intel tried to make this possible by embedding a number into

Re: Getting MAC address

2001-03-21 Thread Andrew Ho
Hello, JWIs there a way to get a person MAC address using apache, mod_perl or JWjavascript. I have yet to find a way to do this? I need a way to JWuniquely identify the computer a person is using (i.e. not ip address). If you mean the MAC address of the remote client who is connecting to your

Reading Apache config info from mod_perl

2001-03-21 Thread starfire
How can I get at the value of Apache config directive like AuthUserFile or Port from within my mod_perl code? I don't want to pass the values using PerlSetVar because that would require the sysadmin to edit both the Apache config directive and my PerlSetVar if he makes a change - too error

Re: understanding memory via ps -ely | grep http

2001-03-21 Thread Pierre Phaneuf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's about FreeBSD? If shared memory is not compiled in kernel of FreeBSD I cant use GTop module because of absant of shared memory. So I dont know is there performance affect or not. You do not have shared memory enabled in your kernel? Any reason? I'd say that

Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF

2001-03-21 Thread Ken Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Farber (EED)) wrote: Bakki Kudva wrote: Just look at the sports teams. You couldn't have a team called the Washington Kikes or the Washington Micks. But yet you can have the Washington Redskins and this Indian with a big nose and big lips running around. How would

[ANNOUNCE] Tie::Cache v.15

2001-03-21 Thread Joshua Chamas
Hey, The latest Tie::Cache is in CPAN, mostly a bugfix release for the MaxCount config which I broke in .11, changes below. Also, some benchmark numbers are below from the test.pl script run on my Linux PIII 450. --Josh NAME Tie::Cache - LRU Cache in Memory SYNOPSIS use Tie::Cache;