Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Stephen Adkins
Gang, First, a reminder to sign up on perl-widget-developer if you want to keep up with this thread. Already there are posts going there that are *not* going to modperl. http://sourceforge.net/projects/perl-widget We have achieved Milestones 1 and 2. * Milestone 1 - a proof of concept pr

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 03:50 AM 6/1/01 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote: > > At 09:14 PM 5/31/01 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote: > > > > At 12:31 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > > > > >At 09:53 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > > > > >At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > > > > >... >

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 04:28 PM 5/31/01 -0700, brian moseley wrote: >On Thu, 31 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > > I think it can be supported through a custom subclass of > > what you have been describing as a container/controller > > for the widgets. I think if it is done at the widget > > level it is bloatin

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Issac Goldstand
> At 09:14 PM 5/31/01 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote: > > > At 12:31 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > > > >At 09:53 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > > > >At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > > > >... > >[...] > > > >Complex Widget: > > > > >TabStop="True" TabIn

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 04:21 PM 5/31/01 -0700, brian moseley wrote: >On Thu, 31 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > > Let's put it this way, I have actually used widgets for > > the last 6 months in real world applications using JSPs > > and widget libraries in Java. I can't tell you what a > > joy it is to work w

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 03:36 PM 5/31/01 -0400, Robert Landrum wrote: >At 10:51 PM +0800 5/31/01, Gunther Birznieks wrote: >>At 11:02 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Robert Landrum wrote: >>>At 9:53 PM +0800 5/29/01, Gunther Birznieks wrote: At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > >>>[...] >>>Yes, but that's only bec

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 09:14 PM 5/31/01 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote: > > At 12:31 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > > >At 09:53 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > > >At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > > >... >[...] > > >The caller in this case has already cooked up a bunch of HT

dyld problems with Apache 1.3.19 and mod_perl/mod_php on Mac OS X 10.0.03

2001-05-31 Thread Martin Redington
I'm having some some difficulties with Apache 1.3.19 and mod_perl/mod_php. Everything builds fine, but I get dyld multiple definition errors in some circumstances. I believe this is connected to the OX X dyld's insistence on freaking out with multiple definitions (so non Mac OS X users might

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > Hmmm, I don't know about memory savings. But the feature > you've outlined here could be taken advantage of by > widgets but I don't think it should be part of the > widget library. I think it's better as a separate CPAN > module for dealing with I1

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > I think it can be supported through a custom subclass of > what you have been describing as a container/controller > for the widgets. I think if it is done at the widget > level it is bloating the widget set and I honestly don't > see why a widget s

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > Let's put it this way, I have actually used widgets for > the last 6 months in real world applications using JSPs > and widget libraries in Java. I can't tell you what a > joy it is to work with something so relatively simple > and just easy to put

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Robert Landrum
At 10:51 PM +0800 5/31/01, Gunther Birznieks wrote: >At 11:02 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Robert Landrum wrote: >>At 9:53 PM +0800 5/29/01, Gunther Birznieks wrote: >>>At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: [snip] shark:/usr/ov/acoc/dev/src/Widget/examples> more Widget.xml Widget.2 :

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Issac Goldstand
> At 12:31 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > >At 09:53 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > >At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > >... > > >>$widget = $wc->widget("first_name"); > > >>print "First Name: ", $widget->html(), "\n"; > > > > > >A widget type ha

RE: Trying to find correct format for PerlSetVar's -- or get Apache::AuthNetLDAP working.

2001-05-31 Thread Geoffrey Young
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Lembark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:27 PM > To: Geoffrey Young > Subject: Re: Trying to find correct format for PerlSetVar's -- or get > Apache::AuthNetLDAP working. > > > > > [snip] > > >168 PerlSetV

RE: Trying to find correct format for PerlSetVar's -- or get Apache::AuthNetLDAP working.

2001-05-31 Thread Geoffrey Young
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Lembark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Trying to find correct format for PerlSetVar's -- or get > Apache::AuthNetLDAP working. > [snip] >168 PerlSetVar => >1

Solved: Memory leak

2001-05-31 Thread Antonios Christofides
In case anyone is interested: the memory leak I described a week ago turns out to be a problem of the combination of HTML::Template with Perl 5.005_03 (probably a bug in Perl 5.005_03 memory management triggered by HTML::Template). I upgraded to Perl 5.6.1 and now not a single byte leaks. My ori

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 12:31 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: >At 09:53 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > >At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: >... > >>$widget = $wc->widget("first_name"); > >>print "First Name: ", $widget->html(), "\n"; > > > >A widget type has already been d

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 05:14 PM 5/29/01 -0500, James G Smith wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Where is this language value coming from? The widget's container. You only >care about English? Then set it to "EN-US" and forget it. >[snip] > >Implementation strategies can be as simple as: > > > > > >sub label { > > >

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:23 AM 5/29/01 -0500, James G Smith wrote: >Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >At 12:15 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > >>The rendering of this widget as HTML requires at least the following > >> > >>* config information (Widget::Config) >[snip] > >> >Also will we r

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:27 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: >At 09:49 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > >At 12:15 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>Development of a straw-man set of Perl Widget Library core classes is > >>going well. A Sourceforge project (perl-widget) is

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 11:02 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Robert Landrum wrote: >At 9:53 PM +0800 5/29/01, Gunther Birznieks wrote: >>At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: >>> > I don't understand the Widget::Controller. Can you say more about this? Also will we require XML to configure? Or is this also

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:08 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Jay Lawrence wrote: >My $0.02 on XML config files. Although they may be attractive to some, >personally, I don't like them. I personally do like them, but I find XML to be heavy weight for parsing in mod_cgi. And many of my users are on normal cheap ISPs that would not

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:04 AM 5/29/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Tue, 29 May 2001, Stephen Adkins wrote: > > > Right. I have many more requirements I eventually want to support > > (such as internationalization). The trick is making the design such > > that it works in the simple case for simple things, w

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 05:52 PM 5/28/01 -0400, you wrote: > > Let's focus a bit. > Specifically on requirements more than implementation - *GOOD* I think you misread my intention. I think the requirements are simple and fairly clear except for some interesting enhancements people (includign yourself) propose o

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages - MOVING THE DISCUSSION

2001-05-31 Thread Jay Lawrence
Dear Mod_Perl & Widget enthusiasts, Thanks to Stephen Adkins taking the bull by the horns we have a new Sourceforge project for the development of Perl Widgets strategies and code. To get the discussion off the mod_perl list - we're encouraging all those interested to join the perl-widget-develop

Re: [OT] mod_mime_magic in perl?

2001-05-31 Thread barries
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:08:03PM +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote: > Aside from that lack, it's perfect for me. Feel like patching in a magic-file parser? I'm swamped at the moment. - Barrie

Re: [OT] mod_mime_magic in perl?

2001-05-31 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Issac" == Issac Goldstand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Issac> Well, it looks great except that most of the types are just Issac> different flavors of text/plain... If you do implement real Issac> magic files (look at the files the Apache uses for good example Issac> magic files), or even g

Re: [OT] mod_mime_magic in perl?

2001-05-31 Thread Issac Goldstand
> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:21:22PM +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a perl module that implements the features of Apache's mod_mime_magic module? (e.g., you give it a file handle, or data and it tries to autodetect the correct mime-type) > > Here's a module (File::

Re: [OT] mod_mime_magic in perl?

2001-05-31 Thread barries
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:21:22PM +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a perl module that implements the features of Apache's >mod_mime_magic module? (e.g., you give it a file handle, or data and it tries to >autodetect the correct mime-type) Here's a module (File::Typ

Apache Software Foundation Server compromised, resecured. (fwd)

2001-05-31 Thread stefan weiss
Hi, a friend suggested I crosspost this here, in case there are some people on this list (like me) who are not subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and this might be interesting to the mod_perl community as well. I'd like to thank the ASF security staff for their good work and the comprehensive ex

RE: [OT] Content-Disposition to change type and action?

2001-05-31 Thread Rafiq Ismail
> > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Ged Haywood wrote: > >On Wed, 30 May 2001, Issac Goldstand wrote: > > > > > Ged wrote: > > > > IE is particularly fond of ignoring Content-type. If the file is > called > > > > something.html or something.htm I've found IE will treat it as html > even > > > > if you say

Re: Apache problem

2001-05-31 Thread Alexander Farber (EED)
> When I start code from command line it works perfectly on the both computers. > Any ideas? > open TEST, "c:/gateway/rus/17.shtml"; open TEST, "c:/gateway/rus/17.shtml" or die "Can't read 17.shtml because of $!";

Re: Help with parameters.]

2001-05-31 Thread Issac Goldstand
> Original Message > Subject: Help with parameters. > Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:12:46 -0500 > From: Nimmagadda Rajeev SRK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: IBM Corporation. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Hi, > > I have built modperl 1.25. > > I could run perl scripts fine. > >

[OT] mod_mime_magic in perl?

2001-05-31 Thread Issac Goldstand
Does anyone know if there is a perl module that implements the features of Apache's mod_mime_magic module?  (e.g., you give it a file handle, or data and it tries to autodetect the correct mime-type)     Issac   Internet is a wonderful mechanism for making a fool ofyourself in front of a ver

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Cees Hek
On 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2001, Stephen Adkins wrote: > > > Right. I have many more requirements I eventually want to support > > (such as internationalization). The trick is making the design such > > that it works in the simple case for simple things, while supp

Re: Real Widgets and Template Languages

2001-05-31 Thread Issac Goldstand
Wait a second, here... I was under the assumption that the Widget library was not going to be limited to HTML output only. According to your page, it seems that the only customization that you plan on doing is to modify the HTML to work properly with specific browsers (eg, MSIE vs Mozilla/Netscap

Re: Content-Disposition to change type and action?

2001-05-31 Thread Issac Goldstand
> Hi there, > > On Tue, 29 May 2001, Jay Jacobs wrote: > > > I've tried setting $r->content_type and even $r->filename to try and get > > the browser (ie 5 for now) to see it as a non-html file and "do the > > right thing". > > IE is particularly fond of ignoring Content-type. If the file is

Re: Content-Disposition to change type and action?

2001-05-31 Thread John Jung
Hi Jay, Jay Jacobs wrote: > I've got a form that will (should) send various formats back to the client > depending on form values. They may want the results back in csv, pdf or > plain html. The form always submits to a .html, and the browser usually > expects an html. > I've tried setting $r->

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