Re: [OT] WebObjects [Was: Re: separating C from V in MVC]

2002-06-15 Thread Perrin Harkins
WO is amazing, no two ways about it. Once you use it, everything else sucks. There are no exceptions. That's kind of a rude statement to make on this list, where all of these people are offering free software and support to you. It's been a few years since I last evaluated WebObjects, but

Re: [OT] WebObjects [Was: Re: separating C from V in MVC]

2002-06-15 Thread Kyle Dawkins
Perrin al Once you use it, everything else sucks. There are no exceptions. That's kind of a rude statement to make on this list, where all of these people are offering free software and support to you. Ah, you're right; I actually never meant that as a slight against things mod_perl; I

Re: [OT] WebObjects [Was: Re: separating C from V in MVC]

2002-06-15 Thread Perrin Harkins
Not quite sure what you mean here. The general WO request-response loop is 1 Process request 2 Perform action 3 Return response Step 3 is entirely dependent on the previous two, just like any mod_perl/CGI/php app. The introductory documentation makes it look each URL is tied to a

[OT] WebObjects [Was: Re: separating C from V in MVC]

2002-06-14 Thread Drew Taylor
At 10:59 AM 6/14/02 -0400, kyle dawkins wrote: As for people claiming never to have seen an OR system that works, I suggest you check out EOF from NeXT/Apple. For those of you (like me) who didn't know what EOF is, it stands for Enterprise Object Framework and is part of Apple's WebObjects app

Re: [OT] WebObjects [Was: Re: separating C from V in MVC]

2002-06-14 Thread kyle dawkins
Drew is correct, EOF stands for Enterprise Object Framework. However, it's not part of the WebObjects app server... it predates WO by a long time (I think it's about 9 or 10 years old) happens to come with WO but is completely separate from it. On Friday 14 June 2002 11:27, Drew Taylor