Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-26 Thread Les Mikesell
From: Fran Fabrizio [EMAIL PROTECTED] You oversimplify. Cookies do work fine. What creates, reads, modifies, validates the cookies? What ties the cookies to useful state information that is stored server-side? There's a lot of coding potentially involved. Yes, perl modules exist.

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-26 Thread Fran Fabrizio
Ron Savage wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 12:22:15 -0400, Fran Fabrizio wrote: Fran [snip] from first-hand experience, hell my current project has both of these things in a web interface, and neither were trivial. I crafted an expandable-tree menu (think Windows Explorer style menu) from

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-26 Thread Ron Savage
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:37:58 -0400, Fran Fabrizio wrote: Fran Ron Savage wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 12:22:15 -0400, Fran Fabrizio wrote: Fran [snip] from first-hand experience, hell my current project has both of these things in a web interface, and neither were trivial. I crafted an

Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Ganesan M
Hello list, Please pardon me if it is not related to the list. We have a C application which runs on both SCO open server and Red Hat Linux with Oracle/Informix database. It is a text based application originally developed for CRDS box with UNOS. Now management needs a GUI for the text

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 16:09 25.06.2002, Ganesan M wrote: Hello list, Please pardon me if it is not related to the list. We have a C application which runs on both SCO open server and Red Hat Linux with Oracle/Informix database. It is a text based application originally developed for CRDS box with UNOS.

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Ganesan M
At 16:09 25.06.2002, Ganesan M wrote: My suggestions are: 1. Get rid of screen driver codes from the existing C programs 2. Use Inline C in the mod_perl programs and run it through apache webserver as a web page. But, some of my colleagues are suggesting to write a Java/VC++

FW: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Prakash Chatterjee
-Original Message- From: Prakash Chatterjee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 June 2002 16:00 To: Ganesan M Subject: RE: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev? Actually, no you can't. At least not without masses of Javascript and god knows what else. And of course you'll

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Fran Fabrizio
Please correct me if this is wrong. What is the big difference between web frontend and a normal GUI? Can't you do everything in the web frontnend that you do in normal GUI? No, not at all. The web is bound by HTTP and HTML. This comes with many ramifications. There are three main

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Ganesan M
Thanks for the info. What I am looking for here is: just a front-end GUI which will interact with the existing C programs. The base application is written in C. That is not going to change(That is one heck of the job to re-write the C application). Perl programs will be used to get the data

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Rob Nagler
Fran Fabrizio writes: - Real-time data updates. HTTP is stateless: it serves up the page then closes the connection. Any updating involves a round-trip back to the server. In traditional GUI, you just hold a db connection and repaint the areas that are updated. Solved with refresh?

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Ganesan M
[snip] The problem with all of the above is that it takes a VERY VERY complex analysis, planning, deployment, and long term environmental support infrastructure that most companies just don't have. So while J2EE all sounds great on paper, implementation of any reasonable J2EE system actually

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Fran Fabrizio
Rob Nagler wrote: Solved with refresh? JavaScript and Java can also help here. Yes, solved with refresh. Of the entire page. Which may be quite complex and have some hefty SQL queries, etc...not to mention other issues such as network latency, the re-rendering of the page, etc...all

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Ganesan M
Thank you all for all your input on this. Here are the reasons why I chose web interface using Apache/CGI/Mod_perl/GD for our front-end reports. * Quick solution. Our management needed the report screens in a very short period. * Our C application runs on two different OS and two different

Re: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Fran Fabrizio
Well it sounds like most of your design goals are pointing you towards the web interface. These same goals are what made me choose web even though I knew that I'd have to make some sacrifices on the interface. You'll be able to do it fine on the web, just be prepared to be flexible with

RE: Is mod_perl the right solution for my GUI dev?

2002-06-25 Thread Vuillemot, Ward W
:I would like to continue in the same web front-end : path for more : interactive forms. May be I will have to fight with : Javascript more. : : Yes, much more. But a book I found helpful was 'DHTML : and CSS for the : WWW'. It has helpful examples of