On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> Igor seems upset with the current (not still final) results of this
> discussion, which HE tried to turn selfishly to a wrong way. Impolite style
> of discussions accomplished with attempts to hide some information and to
> provide some fantasies inste
It's not quite the truth again. It is not a private email; it is a public
mailing list. Everyone writing here expects the replies and comments from
any other subscriber, especially from the main speaker of the thread.
Igor seems upset with the current (not still final) results of this
discussion,
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> Yes, absolutely. And no one on the earth may restrict your rights to log
> anything you feel important in your own handler. Just every overhead
> decrements the number of your prospective users. And when you try to dictate
> your very own needs (or fan
From: "Igor Sysoev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yes, your response is really cached at least in MSIE 5.5.
Thanks.
...
> I mean that handler can do following:
>
> if ($r->headers_in("Accept-Encoding") =~ /gzip/
> and not $r->note("disable_gzip"))
> {
> do gzipping
> }
Should we c
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Igor Sysoev wrote:
> I mean that handler can do following:
>
> if ($r->headers_in("Accept-Encoding") =~ /gzip/
> and not $r->note("disable_gzip"))
> {
> do gzipping
> }
I understand your point of view, even I prefer Slava's approach.
I'm asking myself why you will n
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> From: "Igor Sysoev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Can you show me URL with "Vary" and "Expires" that MSIE would cache.
>
> You have this combination when you access my preview with your MSIE by
> HTTP/1.1 with no proxy (it's still old version of
Yes, you
From: "Igor Sysoev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Can you show me URL with "Vary" and "Expires" that MSIE would cache.
You have this combination when you access my preview with your MSIE by
HTTP/1.1 with no proxy (it's still old version of
Apache::CompressClientFixup installed over there). The lifetim
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> > I did not check how Squid work with Vary header because any value in
> > this header simply disables caching in MSIE. I prefer client caching
> > to compression.
>
> It's not the truth again. I'm using Vary accomplished with Expires to
> control MSI
From: "Igor Sysoev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
> I did not check how Squid work with Vary header because any value in
> this header simply disables caching in MSIE. I prefer client ca
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> Does it make sense? For me it means that every fact which is coming from
> Igor Sysoev should be double-checked independently prior to practical usage.
OK. It's your right.
> I guess some significant changes in the next version of the tutorial... On
From: "Igor Sysoev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Here is first part of criticism.
>
> 1. You should not mix proxies and browsers.
It's a question. I've been thinking about this, and decided to refrain from
diving into a long common discussion about features of spiders,
content-feeders, general indexing
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> Since now the draft tutorial "Features of Content Compression for Different
> Web Clients" (for Part IV: Client side facts and bugs) is available for
> preview and discussion at
> http://devl4.outlook.net/devdoc/Dynagzip/ContentCompressionClients.html
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> Since now the draft tutorial "Features of Content Compression for Different
> Web Clients" (for Part IV: Client side facts and bugs) is available for
> preview and discussion at
> http://devl4.outlook.net/devdoc/Dynagzip/ContentCompressionClients.html
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
> Sorry folks,
>
> I experience some access problems with devl4. Server is down temporarily.
> I'll let you know when ready to continue.
>
> Slava
>
>
uot;modperl list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
>
> From: "Stas Bekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
>
>
> > Probably the best
At 00:04 13.06.2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
>From: "Stas Bekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
>
>
> > Probably the best post it here first, so we can get it reviewed and
> > commented on before we add it to t
From: "Stas Bekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
> Probably the best post it here first, so we can get it reviewed and
> commented on before we add it to the docs.
Since now the draft tutorial "Features of Content Co
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> > I mean that Apache fixup handler is not right place to decide should we
> > use gzip encoding or not.
>
> I'd prefer to address it the point where the web server administrator has to
> fix the Accept-Encoding HTTP header, if one is incorrectly issued
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> I'd prefer to address it the point where the web server administrator has to
> fix the Accept-Encoding HTTP header, if one is incorrectly issued by buggy
> web client.
I really like your idea, in a perfect world shouldn't be that fixup :)
Ciao, Valer
From: "Igor Sysoev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I mean that Apache fixup handler is not right place to decide should we
> use gzip encoding or not.
I'd prefer to address it the point where the web server administrator has to
fix the Accept-Encoding HTTP header, if one is incorrectly issued by buggy
we
At 03:37 06.06.2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
>It's going to be something like "Features of Content Compression for
>Different Web Clients" for Part IV: Client side facts and bugs. We'll be
>able to discuss details next week.
Ok, great Slava, thanks a lot!
--
Per Einar Ellefsen
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> From: "Igor Sysoev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > mod_deflate had been used for one year on several popular Russian sites
> > without problems so I think the main browsers have good gzip support.
>
> I'm not quite familiar with the mod_deflate code:
> Sho
Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> It's going to be something like "Features of Content Compression for
> Different Web Clients" for Part IV: Client side facts and bugs. We'll be
> able to discuss details next week.
Sounds great, looking forward to it.
Probably the best post it here first, so we can get it
From: "Igor Sysoev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> mod_deflate had been used for one year on several popular Russian sites
> without problems so I think the main browsers have good gzip support.
I'm not quite familiar with the mod_deflate code:
Should we consider that every web client uses the same code
gt;
To: "Per Einar Ellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Valerio_Valdez Paolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Slava
Bizyayev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mod_perl Mailing List"
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:44 AM
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip
> At 15:36 05.06.2002, Valerio_Valdez Paolini wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> >
> > > I don&#
Stas Bekman wrote:
> The ongoing discission of MVC is a good example
> of a tutorial candidate
Incidentally, I already wrote a fair amount on this subject in the
eToys-related tutorial:
http://perl.apache.org/release/docs/tutorials/scale_etoys/etoys.html#Code_Structure
There's a diagram, code
Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
> At 15:36 05.06.2002, Valerio_Valdez Paolini wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
>>
>> > I don't know should it be a kitchen of every system administrator, or
>> > somebody could volunteer to serve the public web site about the current
>> > conditions
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> Dear Valerio, Alvar, and Igor,
> Thank you very much for your attention to Apache::Dynagzip.
> It is on CPAN now:
>
> The uploaded file Apache-Dynagzip-0.04.tar.gz has entered CPAN as
> file: $CPAN/authors/id/S/SL/SLAVA/Apache-Dynagzip-0.04.tar.gz
> si
At 15:36 05.06.2002, Valerio_Valdez Paolini wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
>
> > I don't know should it be a kitchen of every system administrator, or
> > somebody could volunteer to serve the public web site about the current
> > conditions of different web clients and recomme
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> I don't know should it be a kitchen of every system administrator, or
> somebody could volunteer to serve the public web site about the current
> conditions of different web clients and recommended masks?.. I can't host it
> on my devl4, because it is
Dear Valerio, Alvar, and Igor,
Thank you very much for your attention to Apache::Dynagzip.
It is on CPAN now:
The uploaded file Apache-Dynagzip-0.04.tar.gz has entered CPAN as
file: $CPAN/authors/id/S/SL/SLAVA/Apache-Dynagzip-0.04.tar.gz
size: 24939 bytes
md5: 586610ffdd35cd1ceceaba4796fd6212
I'
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Alvar Freude wrote:
> >> Also compressed output does not work on IE, if the request was POSTed
> >> (only tested with older version, I gess 4.0, of IE).
> >
> > I did not know about IE4 and POSTs, at least I did not received
> > mod_deflate bug reports about it.
>
> I reali
Hi,
-- Igor Sysoev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NN4 for Windows does not decompress gzipped Flash. NN4 for Unix does.
aah, OK, I only checked it on Windows and then stopped compüressing
everything else then text/html with NN4.
> But no one browser decompress gzipped response that is fetched v
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Alvar Freude wrote:
> The last years I experimented a lot with gzipped output and wrote my own
> gzipping output function (but without chunked encoding :-) ). I realized a
> lot of bugs with some different browsers under some environments or
> situations. I found no remarks ac
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
> Finally, I'm going to upload the Apache::Dynagzip 0.03 to CPAN by the evening of
>June 4-th. I'm not sure about the quality of my documentation yet. It's available now
>at http://devl4.outlook.net/devdoc/Dynagzip/Dynagzip.html for preview. I would
>a
Hello,
-- Slava Bizyayev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Finally, I'm going to upload the Apache::Dynagzip 0.03 to CPAN by the
> evening of June 4-th. I'm not sure about the quality of my documentation
> yet.
the documentation looks very complete :-)
Do you provide also an interface as replacem
Hello everyone,
Finally, I'm going to upload the Apache::Dynagzip
0.03 to CPAN by the evening of June 4-th. I'm not sure about the quality of my
documentation yet. It's available now at http://devl4.outlook.net/devdoc/Dynagzip/Dynagzip.html for
preview. I would appreciate any comments in or
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