Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-13 Thread Adam Kennedy
(Andreas J. Koenig) wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:11:43 -0800, "Joshua ben Jore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. > This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from > CPAN. Would the responsible parties pleas

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-09 Thread Austin Schutz
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:34:26PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Excuse me, but Time::Cubic is no joke. It is a testament to the great > Gene Ray, and the message he has brought us from the year 2051. If CPAN is not a repository of testaments. No one opposes the publication of the

OT: German law (was: Delete hate speech module)

2007-02-09 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Chuck Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-02-08 23:10]: > Given the fact that the module contains a swastika, one must > suppose that this code breaks German law. That alone does not mean it breaks German law, no. It does break German law in more ways than one because free speech in Germany is qualif

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-09 Thread joseph . evers
On Feb 8, 4:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Rockway) wrote: > David Landgren wrote: > > Continuing as the devil's advocate, I still can't decide if that's just > > a parody on the whole license issue. It's just too over the top. > > > That said, I agree that CPAN doesn't have to be the vector fo

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-09 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:11:43 -0800, "Joshua ben Jore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. > This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from > CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, p

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Keith Ivey
Randy Kobes wrote: Perhaps, if nothing else, the terms of usage of the package: http://search.cpan.org/src/BANTOWN/Time-Cubic-1.0/LICENSE by which one *must* commit at least three violations of the named parts of the US Criminal Code to use it, makes it unsuitable for CPAN. Hmm, SNMP::APCU

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Chuck Fox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:24 AM, IvorW wrote: Ahah, now I see the correct module name, I can browse the source and see what the issue is. The only difficulty is that the module could be somebody's incredibly poor taste sick joke, and people could raise the old chestnut a

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Chris Dolan
On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:24 AM, IvorW wrote: Ahah, now I see the correct module name, I can browse the source and see what the issue is. The only difficulty is that the module could be somebody's incredibly poor taste sick joke, and people could raise the old chestnut argument about free speech

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Jeremy Fluhmann
On 2/8/07, IvorW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ahah, now I see the correct module name, I can browse the source and see what the issue is. The only difficulty is that the module could be somebody's incredibly poor taste sick joke, and people could raise the old chestnut argument about free speech.

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Fergal Daly
On 08/02/07, imacat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 01:28:12 -0800 Eric Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # from Andy Lester > # on Wednesday 07 February 2007 10:25 pm: > >> I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. > >> This is the kind of content that

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Jonathan Rockway
David Landgren wrote: > Continuing as the devil's advocate, I still can't decide if that's just > a parody on the whole license issue. It's just too over the top. > > That said, I agree that CPAN doesn't have to be the vector for > distributing this useless drivel. While the license gave me a big

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Chris Dolan
On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:20 AM, David Landgren wrote: I recommed against deleting it, because that only add fuel to the fire. The crackpot who uploaded this drivel in the first place will be able to crow freedom of speech and it's all a communist plot, there really is a perl cabal and they're

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Chris Dolan
On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Tim Maher wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:58:01AM -0800, alan wrote: On a more serious side, getting rid of it [Time::Cubic] should be pretty open and shut. CPAN is a public resource managed by private entities. I'm generally against the idea of censorship in a

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread David Landgren
Randy Kobes wrote: [...] Perhaps, if nothing else, the terms of usage of the package: http://search.cpan.org/src/BANTOWN/Time-Cubic-1.0/LICENSE by which one *must* commit at least three violations of the named parts of the US Criminal Code to use it, makes it unsuitable for CPAN. Continu

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Dr.Ruud
Tim Maher schreef: > I'm generally against the idea of censorship in all its forms This has nothing to do with censorship. Somebody is dropping garbage in our yard. If that person just wants to cause trouble and doesn't remove it, luckily somebody else will be so good. -- Affijn, Ruud "Gewoon

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread alan
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Randy Kobes wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Tim Maher wrote: [ ... ] I now understand why so many people were voting for "censorship", with so few defending the rights of the programmer. Given what we're dealing with, I'm now in agreement that this "Module" is effectively spam,

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Randy Kobes
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Tim Maher wrote: [ ... ] I now understand why so many people were voting for "censorship", with so few defending the rights of the programmer. Given what we're dealing with, I'm now in agreement that this "Module" is effectively spam, and should be treated accordingly. Perh

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Tim Maher
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:12:44PM +, Steve Pitchford wrote: > Tim Maher wrote: > > >On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:58:01AM -0800, alan wrote: > > > >>>On a more serious side, getting rid of it [Time::Cubic] should be > >>>pretty open and shut. CPAN is a public resource managed by private > >>>en

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Dave Rolsky wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Joshua ben Jore wrote: I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? Just to clarify for the curio

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Chris Dolan
On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Tim Maher wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:58:01AM -0800, alan wrote: On a more serious side, getting rid of it [Time::Cubic] should be pretty open and shut. CPAN is a public resource managed by private entities. I'm generally against the idea of censorship in a

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Keith Ivey
Tim Maher wrote: I'm generally against the idea of censorship in all its forms, ... Are you equally outraged by the fact that this list goes through a spam filter? That "module" is just spam. -- Keith C. Ivey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Washington, DC

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Steve Pitchford
Tim Maher wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:58:01AM -0800, alan wrote: On a more serious side, getting rid of it [Time::Cubic] should be pretty open and shut. CPAN is a public resource managed by private entities. I'm generally against the idea of censorship in all its forms, and /d

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread imacat
Given: On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:20:18 +0100 David Landgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recommed against deleting it, because that only add fuel to the fire. and: > I would also recommend writing your (*) opinion about the module by > means of reviews on cpanratings, as well as annocpa

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Tim Maher
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:58:01AM -0800, alan wrote: > > > >On a more serious side, getting rid of it [Time::Cubic] should be > >pretty open and shut. CPAN is a public resource managed by private > >entities. I'm generally against the idea of censorship in all its forms, and /definitely/ against

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Frank Wiles
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:34:12 -0600 Jonathan Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But when it's useless AND in bad taste, it's not doing anything good > for anyone, so why should the CPAN mirror it? What's the advantage > for anyone? Jonathan++. I'm all for removing it from CPAN and shutting

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 8 Feb 2007, at 17:36, David Landgren wrote: And as we all know, 99% of modules these days are found through searches. I would recommend a much more subtle approach: ask Andreas and Randy to... oops... accidentally remove it from their indices, and therefore when people search for Time::,

RE: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Dmitri Tikhonov
> -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Rockway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] > If I were in charge, this module would be deleted and the > PAUSE account disabled. ++. - Dmitri.

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread David Landgren
Andy Armstrong wrote: On 8 Feb 2007, at 17:20, David Landgren wrote: And as we all know, 99% of modules these days are found through searches. I would recommend a much more subtle approach: ask Andreas and Randy to... oops... accidentally remove it from their indices, and therefore when people

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Randy Kobes
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, David Landgren wrote: Joshua ben Jore wrote: I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? Ok, lot of valid arguments

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Jonathan Rockway
David Landgren wrote: > I recommend against deleting it, because that only add fuel to the fire. > The crackpot who uploaded this drivel in the first place will be able to > crow freedom of speech and it's all a communist plot, there really is a > perl cabal and they're out to get me and blah blah

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 8 Feb 2007, at 17:20, David Landgren wrote: And as we all know, 99% of modules these days are found through searches. I would recommend a much more subtle approach: ask Andreas and Randy to... oops... accidentally remove it from their indices, and therefore when people search for Time::,

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread David Landgren
Joshua ben Jore wrote: I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? Ok, lot of valid arguments that I agree with more or less, so I'm goin

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread John M. Gamble
> > >> -Original Message- >> From: imacat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 08 February 2007 15:06 >> To: Perl Module Authors List >> Subject: Re: Delete hate speech module >> >> >> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 01:28:12 -0800 >> Eri

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread alan
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Chris wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, alan wrote: And it is not even a usable piece of code. Well, it did pass all of the automated tests. http://cpantesters.perl.org/show/Time-Cubic.html#Time-Cubic-1.0 But you are right. It pretty much doesn't even do anything useful at al

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Chris
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, alan wrote: > And it is not even a usable piece of code. Well, it did pass all of the automated tests. http://cpantesters.perl.org/show/Time-Cubic.html#Time-Cubic-1.0 But you are right. It pretty much doesn't even do anything useful at all. On a more serious side, getting

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread alan
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Joshua ben Jore wrote: I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? It is actually Time::Cubic. Wow! Imagine if Doct

Re[2]: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread D. Huggins
> On 08 Feb 2007 10:24:13 -0500 > IvorW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I> Ahah, now I see the correct module name, I can browse the source I> and see what the issue is. The only difficulty is that the module I> could be somebody's incredibly poor taste sick joke, and people I> could raise the old ches

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread IvorW
> -Original Message- > From: imacat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 February 2007 15:06 > To: Perl Module Authors List > Subject: Re: Delete hate speech module > > > On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 01:28:12 -0800 > Eric Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Andy Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8 Feb 2007, at 15:06, imacat wrote: Correction: Time::Cubic. I got some Time Cube madness on an old blog a few years ago: http://www.shitshifter.com/forum.jsp?nid=237 See posts by "HEED CUBIC PROPHECIES TO AVERT CUBELESS DOOM" - -- Andy A

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread imacat
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 01:28:12 -0800 Eric Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # from Andy Lester > # on Wednesday 07 February 2007 10:25 pm: > >> I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. > >> This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from > >> CPAN. Wou

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Andy Lester # on Wednesday 07 February 2007 10:25 pm: >> I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. >> This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from >> CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? > >It's deserving, but I'd

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-07 Thread Andy Lester
On Feb 7, 2007, at 10:11 PM, Joshua ben Jore wrote: I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? It's deserving, but I'd sure rather not

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-07 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Joshua ben Jore wrote: I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? Just to clarify for the curious, to see the bile y

Delete hate speech module

2007-02-07 Thread Joshua ben Jore
I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? Josh