Re: size will be missing Re: [MORPHMET] Save aligned in TPSRelW

2017-06-26 Thread alcardini
Dear Joanna, this is something you can easily check: compare a PCA, shape distances and also centroid size from TPSRelw with those from MorphoJ after redoing the GPA: are they different? If they are, I'd worry. But, unless there's a mistake, I'd say they will be virtually identical. Cheers Andrea

Re: size will be missing Re: [MORPHMET] Save aligned in TPSRelW

2017-06-26 Thread Joanna Lenarczyk
Hello All, I was thinking about using TpsRelw to slide semilandmarks before analysing the aligned specimens data in MorphoJ, but does it really make sense to double the alignment? Even if I have the file after TpsRelw, where landmarks and semilandmarks are treated differently, im MorphoJ I make the

Re: size will be missing Re: [MORPHMET] Save aligned in TPSRelW

2017-06-22 Thread andrea cardini
The point is simple: the variables called centroid size and log centroid size in MorphoJ won't be the real size of the original structures if they're imported without rescaling them. They are, in my experience, about 1 and, regardless of the reason (which I find less important), they're wrong. O

Re: size will be missing Re: [MORPHMET] Save aligned in TPSRelW

2017-06-22 Thread Paolo Piras
Hi folks/Andrea, just to underline this: Andrea,when you say "an 'apparent size variable' which is a series of numbers virtually equal to 1 (differences will be approximation errors)." I think that MorphoJ "reads" the actual CS values from the aligned coordinates saved by TPSrelw that, as you sa

size will be missing Re: [MORPHMET] Save aligned in TPSRelW

2017-06-22 Thread andrea cardini
Hi Pere, there's plenty of work arounds this. I agree with Carmelo that the nts format may be easier to edit manually, so that you can put back the necessary labels. HOWEVER, PLEASE BE CAREFUL because SIZE WILL BE MISSING from those data. As most of the time you may want to analyse both size