Re: [MOSAIC] reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Patricia Kimathi
I partially blame that on the emphasis that most schools put on reading fluency rate (speed reading) as one means of testing reading. on our school quarterly assessment fluency rateis given the same weight as comprehension. Pat On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:27 PM, wr...@centurytel.net wrote: No

Re: [MOSAIC] reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Sally Thomas
I agree Pat and would add initial teaching that didn't help kids use strategies effectively - the cueing systems and strategies like reading on and rereading etc. all aimed toward meaning as the ultimate goal. Too much initial reading empahsizes decoding in decodable (meaningless texts)!! This i

Re: [MOSAIC] Literacy through science and student achievement

2011-07-22 Thread Sally Thomas
Readingquest.org Lots of great strategies for social studies and I believe for science as well tho some would need tweaking! On 7/22/11 3:55 PM, "Carolyn Louise Young" wrote: > I am investigating the use of literacy during science instruction. The > utilization of reading comprehension strateg

[MOSAIC] Literacy-based Science Instruction

2011-07-22 Thread Carolyn Louise Young
I am a graduate student at Florida Atlantic University. I am interested in obtaining additional information on the effects of literacy based science inquiry instruction on student achievement in reading and science or the effects of reading intervention strategies during science instruction on stu

[MOSAIC] reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread write
Hi Kathy, I think we're all in agreement that elementary teachers work hard to make sure that all students can (and do) read. It is, however, true that I have students reading well below grade level. When I see them, the reason is no longer important. I need to figure out the best way I c

[MOSAIC] reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread write
Now I want to clarify. I don't mean students cannot decode. Or at least I don't think that's what I mean. I have students every year who can say every word on the page out loud. They can even explain what each word individually means. If I ask for an explanation of what the entire page

[MOSAIC] Literacy through science and student achievement

2011-07-22 Thread Carolyn Louise Young
I am investigating the use of literacy during science instruction. The utilization of reading comprehension strategies during the reading of science text could influence students' achievement in reading and science. What comprehension strategies would you recommend to use during science that w

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Renee
Let's not also forget that "test score success" as a number one priority shortchanges many children of a quality education. Better that teachers should speak out more about the inequities and realities of wasting time and money testing young children whose teachers know very well which chil

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Carol Lau
I agree! This is why teacher salary should not be based on test scores. Usually the students I "work the hardest" with do not meet the grade level standards and still bring down the class test score average. Even though they made have improved the most through the year. And let's not even talk

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread MrsJRoman
Something else to consider here, is that for a student to reach middle school and have only minimal reading skills your special classes like Art, Music, and even Physical Education have so much reading that these classes become nightmares for students because typically their academic support

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Sally Thomas
Another keeper and to be shared widely. This is beautifully said Renee. I will do all I can to keep your soapbox standing!! Sally On 7/22/11 10:58 AM, "Renee" wrote: > I absolutely agree with this. Taking students out of Art, Music, and > PE sends a message that only some parts of the curricu

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Renee
Not only possible, but very, very probable! Renee On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Margy Hillman wrote: isn't it possible that "punishing" the child will have a negative impact on the child and his or her motivation to read. plus, mightn't it send the message that art, music, PE aren't part of

Re: [MOSAIC] State Assessment

2011-07-22 Thread Renee
Denise, I don't think that a student who completes all high school course work should be denied a diploma or graduation ceremonies because of a low score on a state-mandated assessment. I think it's a breach of faith on the part of the adults to deny such a thing. We are creating a nation of dr

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Renee
I absolutely agree with this. Taking students out of Art, Music, and PE sends a message that only some parts of the curriculum are important, and also deprives children of equal access to the curriculum and, subsequently, a well-rounded education. There are lessons to be learned in Art, Mus

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Margy Hillman
isn't it possible that "punishing" the child will have a negative impact on the child and his or her motivation to read. plus, mightn't it send the message that art, music, PE aren't part of why we read? From: jayhawkrtroy fredde To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehe

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread jayhawkrtroy fredde
Yes they need intensive instruction, but they should not be taken out of art, music, PE at least not completely. On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Denise Diana Saddler wrote: > I agree with the fact that if a child is unable to read by the 3rd grade then > the child should be taking out of extra

Re: [MOSAIC] State Assessment

2011-07-22 Thread jayhawkrtroy fredde
I agree, I read online that Obama is planning to meet with several CEO's from across the country to discuss changes in education. Shouldn't he be meeting with lifelong educators who truely have the children in mind not polictics. On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:42 PM, beverleep...@gmail.com wrote: > We

Re: [MOSAIC] reading logs

2011-07-22 Thread jayhawkrtroy fredde
I think one thing to try is have them turn it in weekly. I will save you the task of looking at it daily as well. Encourage them to read the same books at home as they read during independent reading in class. They need to go to the library more often than every 2 week, I think also. On Sun, Jul

Re: [MOSAIC] Finding the Balance with high schoolers between strategies and just reading

2011-07-22 Thread Sally Thomas
Okay here are articles which describe the conversational letters used in reading classes. I am not myself expert at actually finding old articles but hope some of you are! The two that inspired me to try the strategy were Five, Cora Lee. (1986). "fifth graders respond to a changed reading

Re: [MOSAIC] State Assessment

2011-07-22 Thread Tina
 so true Beverly! Particularly Texas who is just now starting their revamped TAKS test (STARR now) where I live which I really feel is a joke and puts undue stress on students in 3rd grade   Tina From: "beverleep...@gmail.com" To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehe

Re: [MOSAIC] "Better" reading instruction...sigh...

2011-07-22 Thread Bieger, Reva RB
I to agree with the point of developmental development. I taught in a resource setting at the 4th/5th grade level for 10 years. Students would come to us as non-readers and leave 5th ranging from 2nd to 5th grade level. While we worked very hard with intensive programs we had the added benefi