On 18 Dec 2001 06:05:22 GMT,
DeMoN LaG n@a wrote:
:I would blame Netscape if the code was checked in by a netscape employee
:with no r/sr/a, or if the code was checked in by a netscape employee and
:had r/sr/a all with @netscape.com email addresses. That would scream to
:me that the change
Round One...
... Fight!
What do they gain out of *any* of Mozilla? It's a complete and utter
failure after, what, five *years* of work, the laughingstock of the
computing world, and yet they still drag the dead carcass along. And
then to top it off they slap a commie star on it
Yes, we care. Don't confuse having different values than yours with not
caring. The feature you seem to dislike so much started as numerous
requests from our customers, users and reviewers. Our marketing
department notified us of the strong demand for such a feature.
Management ensured
Jason Kersey wrote:
They integrate those widgets in the OS, so they become native. Didn't
you heard something about DoJ vs MS?
IE's widgets are still different than the rest of the OS's.
So please, can you explain me which widgets are you talking about?
I don't see anything in IE5
Peter Trudelle wrote:
Yes, we care. Don't confuse having different values than yours with
not caring. The feature you seem to dislike so much started as
numerous requests from our customers, users and reviewers. Our
marketing department notified us of the strong demand for such a
If you think the implementation is poor, could you file concrete bugs
regarding the concerns that you have or perhaps state them here? There
are AFAIK only a handful of current remaining issues with the
implementation.
Also, if you want the feature to have no serious issues before it's
On 18/12/2001 at 00:32 Peter Trudelle wrote:
Yes, we care. Don't confuse having different values than yours with not
caring. The feature you seem to dislike so much started as numerous
requests from our customers, users and reviewers. Our marketing
department notified us of the strong
Daniel Veditz wrote:
Jesse Ruderman wrote:
Netscape recently checked in [...]
C'mon, you know how things work here. Netscape did no such thing, it was
coders running amok because they thought it was neat and they could.
I actually meant that in a good way. Most of the cool things in the
hi mozillas,
where can i find information on how to build my own sidebar ?
regards
karsten
hi mozillas,
where can i find information on how to build my own sidebar ?
regards
karsten
Jonathan Wilson wrote:
I understand that loading favicon.ico for bookmarks is accually a good
thing but why load favicon.ico on page load, what benifit does it have
(other than displaying a pretty little icon in the URL bar?)
It is also displayed in the title of the tab, once you have
I have been given some mozilla themes as a .jar file, but cant seem to
find a way to install them.
Anyone know how without having to install them from the site? I've
already got them, just a matter of knowing where
to put them. By the way, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7.1.
Thanks
Firts of all, JTK, Who are you? When I search a number of mozilla groups
for your initials (With the stable and handy mail/news client Mozilal,
with a verry handy search option), it pops up a large list of
criticising replies and annouying text. When I go to
I wrote:
Since most apps see AltGr as Ctrl+Alt
this means that Mozilla will quietly ignore all AltGr keystrokes, see
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50255 thus temporarily
rendering my patch useless :-(
I just installed 9.6, previously had Netscape 6.2.
Running ZoneAlarm, Norton AV.
OS- Win Me
When starting the browser, all I get is the msgbox Error launching
browser window.no XBL binding for browser
Can you help or point me to the proper NG? Thanks.
John
DeMoN LaG wrote:
Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 17 Dec 2001:
Albert wrote:
The only thing preventing my migration is an error message in RH
7.2 that says Warning! FAT32 support is still ALPHA! (nuisance
only) and the fact that no
JTK wrote:
The... ah why the hell
do I bother, nobody here cares enough about this project to put it to
sleep, let alone make it good.
You got that right ... nobody cares about what you think. Maybe you
should be the one who should go to sleep and have a chill pill.
Mozilla's failue or
Jonathan Wilson wrote:
From what I have seen with things like favicon.ico and other things not
really.
Accually, its probobly more like this:
The engineers and coders do care about the browser and want to make it
better (no, reading favicon.ico when first loading the page even if not
David Hyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 18 Dec 2001:
If you think the implementation is poor, could you file concrete
bugs regarding the concerns that you have or perhaps state them
here? There are AFAIK only a handful of current remaining issues
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 18 Dec 2001:
As someone who dual-boots (although I haven't booted into Windows
for quite some time), access to a FAT32 partition is necessary. I'm
surprised that RedHat 7.2 says the support is ALPHA. Linux
John W. Funke wrote:
I just installed 9.6, previously had Netscape 6.2.
When starting the browser, all I get is the msgbox Error launching
browser window.no XBL binding for browser
Run NS 6.2 again, choose either modern or classic theme, then you will
be able to run Mozilla.
(I suppose
David Hyatt wrote:
If you think the implementation is poor, could you file concrete bugs
regarding the concerns that you have or perhaps state them here?
There are AFAIK only a handful of current remaining issues with the
implementation.
Not that I think it is poor implementation, and I
Fulvio Perini wrote:
Thank you for the tip.I had forgotten about Mozillazine.It is interesting
that only the 12-6 nightly allowed me to hover on the trunkated Subject in
News
I think it was backed out because you could not click on the tooltip to
read the message, which made message
DeMoN LaG wrote:
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 18 Dec 2001:
As someone who dual-boots (although I haven't booted into Windows
for quite some time), access to a FAT32 partition is necessary. I'm
surprised that RedHat 7.2 says the support
Christian Biesinger wrote:
John W. Funke wrote:
I just installed 9.6, previously had Netscape 6.2.
When starting the browser, all I get is the msgbox Error launching
browser window.no XBL binding for browser
Run NS 6.2 again, choose either modern or classic theme, then you will
be
On 18/12/2001 at 07:55 Jay Garcia wrote:
Have you ever peered at File Types in your File Associations list ??
See the little icons to the left of the association ?? If you're looking
for a particular file-type association you can scroll the list looking
for the associated icon in the left column
Dennis Katsonis wrote:
I have been given some mozilla themes as a .jar file, but cant seem to
find a way to install them.
Anyone know how without having to install them from the site? I've
already got them, just a matter of knowing where
to put them. By the way, I'm running Red Hat
I ran the talkback build
mozilla-win32-0.9.6-stub-installer.exe
The browser sez congrats, your build is older than 3 weeks, download a
newer build. and dumped me into
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla0.9.6/
Now what?
So I go to mozilla.org/ and click on Nightly BuildsWindows
Now that this thread has been posted *to death*, it is time to
summarize and hopefully come to conclusions:
1) favicon.ico: not too much *good* discussion. AFAICT there
is no 'official' (as per the W3) standard of indicating an icon file.
I did some research on this, read on.
John Funke wrote:
I ran the talkback build
mozilla-win32-0.9.6-stub-installer.exe
The browser sez congrats, your build is older than 3 weeks, download
a newer build. and dumped me into
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla0.9.6/
Now what?
So I go to mozilla.org/ and
Yes, this is one of the known issues. It's compounded by the fact that
when you crash or don't cleanly exit, the entire disk cache has a
tendency to flush itself on the next restart.
I will probably need to ignore the expirations specified by the Web site
for favicons. Most servers haven't
this may be a pretty clueless question, but why is the title bar
flashing on my nightly build for windows?
anthony
Peter Trudelle wrote:
One benefit is that users can tell, at a glance, the current site, and
which site such bookmarks came from, much faster than they could ever
read the URL. They can thus browse faster and with fewer errors.
Absolutely. Site/page icons is a great feature. But
As I've said several times before, Mozilla does not spam the site on
every visit, only on the first visit. It then caches information of a
miss to prevent spamming the site again (and this persists across
sessions), and on a hit it caches the favicon itself to prevent spamming
the site again
David Hyatt wrote:
Some people are even blocking Mozilla from their sites because of this!
Mozilla's way of doing this spams servers much more than IE's, since Moz
request favicon.ico for every visit (IE only does it when the page is
bookmarked).
As I've said several times before,
So have we. It's called the Classic Skin (if you're not using it, try
View-Apply Theme-Classic).
You'll notice that our native widgets actually emulate the OS widget
set better than IE ;-)
-Ben
A Martinez wrote:
So please, can you explain me which widgets are you talking about?
I don't
Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
Jadzia wrote:
When I press the VIEW CHANGES on www.betanews.com (any of the programs
ofcourse) I do not get the popup window. So java does not work correctly.
But, Java applets do work. I can play java games and all..
You mean that Java*Script* does not work
Actually he's making the case for the key usability benefit of this feature.
Simon P. Lucy wrote:
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On 18/12/2001 at 07:55 Jay Garcia wrote:
Have you ever peered at "File Types" in your File Associations list ??See the little icons to the left of the association ??
I use a web-based calendar called Webcal. Recently, I've run into a
cgi/perl or javascript bug which causes me to have to submit calendar
changes twice before they are accepted. I did not have this problem with
a November 23rd build under linux, but a recent linux nightly and
current Win32
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this may be a pretty clueless question, but why is the title bar
flashing on my nightly build for windows?
anthony
I have encountered this, and it is very annoying since it messes up the
auto-hide of the taskbar. It happens at random times and closing and
Jadzia wrote:
Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
Jadzia wrote:
When I press the VIEW CHANGES on www.betanews.com (any of the
programs ofcourse) I do not get the popup window. So java does not
work correctly.
But, Java applets do work. I can play java games and all..
You mean that
Tim Wunder wrote:
DeMoN LaG wrote:
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 18 Dec 2001:
As someone who dual-boots (although I haven't booted into Windows
for quite some time), access to a FAT32 partition is necessary. I'm
surprised that RedHat
Charlie in San Francisco wrote:
Tim Wunder wrote:
DeMoN LaG wrote:
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 18 Dec 2001:
As someone who dual-boots (although I haven't booted into Windows
for quite some time), access to a FAT32 partition is
Sören Kuklau wrote:
Well to Taras: K-Meleon looks a bit like IE (and is intended to do so), and
has the Gecko engine from Mozilla. But an IE chrome... I wonder if anyone
would do such a thing (definitly not Netscape, Beonex, etc., and most likely
not mozilla.org guys or volunteers).
Sören Kuklau wrote:
Well to Taras: K-Meleon looks a bit like IE (and is intended to do so), and
has the Gecko engine from Mozilla. But an IE chrome... I wonder if anyone
would do such a thing (definitly not Netscape, Beonex, etc., and most likely
not mozilla.org guys or volunteers).
Peter Mutsaers wrote:
Well, 90% of web users (via IE) are used to backspace being used for
this. While I'm not exactly an IE (nor MSFT) fan, I'd say this is one of
the few things they got right in the last decennium. Please leave it in
Mozilla.
Backspace is an undocumented feature in IE
On 18/12/2001 at 12:16 Ben Goodger wrote:
Actually he's making the case for the key usability benefit of this
feature.
No. He was being patronising.
An icon for a bookmark is not equivalent to an icon for a file type.
The number of different types of file icon is quite small, and easily
Chocobo_greens wrote:
snip
all i asked was that there be a alternavive version of mozilla without
the communist icons for those who wish not to have them.. or at least the
option of not having them .. is that too much to ask?
Your wish is my command.
http://beonex.com/communicator/
Simon P. Lucy wrote:
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That tends to imply that it was an AOL product requirement and notnecessarily a mozilla.org one.
Not imply, I was clear that this requirement came from Netscape marketing.
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I can't see any downside to AOL
Ian Thomas wrote:
Peter Mutsaers wrote:
Well, 90% of web users (via IE) are used to backspace being used for
this. While I'm not exactly an IE (nor MSFT) fan, I'd say this is one
of the few things they got right in the last decennium. Please leave
it in Mozilla.
Backspace is an
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Jason Fleshman wrote:
Melissa 'Liss' Tyson wrote:
Hi all.
I'm a long-time Moz user (well long-time in the development of
Mozilla) who just finally joined the mailing lists. I'm enjoying
reading the lists, but I have one complaint.
This email account has been up for almost a month.
John Funke wrote:
I ran the talkback build
mozilla-win32-0.9.6-stub-installer.exe
The browser sez congrats, your build is older than 3 weeks, download a
newer build. and dumped me into
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla0.9.6/
You can happily continue using 0.9.6 if you
Tim Wunder wrote:
...You will be presented with another dialog where you must click
Submit again.
Um, just to clarify. You should only have to click Submit once. That's
the way the November 23 linux build worked, but current builds don't.
So, having to click Submit again is the bug I'm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Wilson) wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I understand that loading favicon.ico for bookmarks is accually a
good thing but why load favicon.ico on page load, what benifit
does it have (other than displaying a pretty little icon in the
URL bar?)
It's very handy if you're
Simon P. Lucy wrote:
On 18/12/2001 at 12:16 Ben Goodger wrote:
Actually he's making the case for the key usability benefit of this
feature.
No. He was being patronising.
An icon for a bookmark is not equivalent to an icon for a file type.
The number of different types of file
Simon P. Lucy wrote:
The number of different types of file icon is quite small, and easily
remembered by the user after some small amount of use.
I may not be typical, but I have many more different file system icons
than favicons.
It also means an
entirely different thing. It means I can
H... any screenshots?
Oh and is there any patch or chrome or whatever for a full Mozilla MDI
Interface (yes, I know tabbrowser, but that's not true MDI... and it's not
for myself.).
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