Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Interesting high quality settings and possible bug

2000-10-05 Thread Gargos Chode
>At these types of average bitrates, I think you might be better off >with CBR instead of VBR. This is because with an average bitrate >230kbs, you only need an extra 90kbs to go up to 320kbs. 90kbs >is only 40% of the average frame size - these types of fluctuations >are easily handled by the

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] LAME file name changes from 3.86 to 3.87?

2000-10-05 Thread Frank Klemm
:: :: :: That name was changed because one make system (MSDOS?) interpreted :: the '-' in quantize-pvt.c as a compiler option. :: MSDOS can't store a name like "quantize-pvt.c", you got at most: "quantize.c" or "quanti~1.c". -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Frank Klemm eMail | [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] -q1

2000-10-05 Thread Mark Powell
On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Robert Hegemann wrote: > > >From your recent postings I'm detecting that you think -q1 can only rarely > > give a sonic improvement. In fact it is more likely to degrade the sound > > over -q2? If so, the Roel recommendation of -q1, seems a little dangerous? > > You think the

Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] -q1

2000-10-05 Thread Roel VdB
Hello Robert, Thursday, October 05, 2000, 12:08:21 AM, you wrote: RH> I don't know any track where the use of -q1 improves sound quality RH> compared to a same sized -q2. That's why I'm asking you all. The reason I use it on -V1 is: I don't get poorer quality (still waiting for m

Re: Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] -q1

2000-10-05 Thread Gargos Chode
-- On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:05:14 Roel VdB wrote: >Hello Robert, > >Thursday, October 05, 2000, 12:08:21 AM, you wrote: >RH> I don't know any track where the use of -q1 improves sound quality >RH> compared to a same sized -q2. That's why I'm asking you all. > >The reason I use

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Interesting high quality settings and possible bug

2000-10-05 Thread Ross Levis
Gargos Chode wrote: > -V1 -mj -b128 -q2 -d -p -k -F --nspsytune --athlower -35 -X3. Some thoughts: -p & -F will have no effect on sound quality. I have had mixed results with nspsytune. -X2 & X3 both produce massively larger average bitrates than all the others. I've never played with -d.

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Interesting high quality settings and possible bug

2000-10-05 Thread Naoki Shibata
Ross> Gargos Chode wrote: Ross> Ross> > -V1 -mj -b128 -q2 -d -p -k -F --nspsytune --athlower -35 -X3. Ross> Ross> Some thoughts: Ross> Ross> -p & -F will have no effect on sound quality. I have had mixed results with nspsytune. -X2 & X3 both produce massively larger average bitrates than al

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Interesting high quality settings and possible bug

2000-10-05 Thread Gargos Chode
-- On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 21:30:23 Ross Levis wrote: >Gargos Chode wrote: > >> -V1 -mj -b128 -q2 -d -p -k -F --nspsytune --athlower -35 -X3. > >Some thoughts: > >-p & -F will have no effect on sound quality. I have had mixed results with >nspsytune. -X2 & X3 both produce massively larger ave

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Interesting high quality settings and possible bug

2000-10-05 Thread Gargos Chode
Hello, On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:02:11 Naoki Shibata wrote: > First, one should not specify "--athlower -35". This may significantly >degrade sound quality. > > I always used -q1 while tuning --nspsytune. I think -q1 doesn't >degrade sound quality so much with --nspsytune. > > Theoretically

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Winamp/100hz bug: SOLVED!

2000-10-05 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> > I'd vote for limiting it to 8205. The quality loss would be very minimal. It > > won't solve winamp's problem, but it's easy to fix in the decoder, now that > > we know exactly what the problem is. > > The advantage is that 8205 is 0x1FFE, which is not a valid syncword for > > mpeg1-2. With t

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Interesting high quality settings and possible bug

2000-10-05 Thread Yog Sothoth
if lame writes a 16 bit crc for every frame (using -p switch), doesn't that mean there are 16 less bits for sound data for each frame? couldn't that affect sound quality? is this getting carried away a little too much? :) On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:30:23PM +1300, Ross Levis wrote: > -p & -F

[MP3 ENCODER] bug in bitrate analysis with 3.88a

2000-10-05 Thread Dmitry
This is a forwarded message Date: Thursday, October 05, 2000, 11:23:08 AM Subject: Problems with Lame 3.88alphas + A question ===8<==Original message text=== Hi, Also the lame 3.88alphas don't run propley on my machine. When I encode a file the screen keep rolling. This i

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] lame 3.87 encode-decode roundtrip

2000-10-05 Thread Liviu
RAW sizes differ between the original and the encoded-decoded files, headers appear to be same (44 bytes) size. - original wav - raw = header t4 14,276,68414,276,640 44 - encoded then decoded back (cbr and vbr) t4_b256_ms_h14,275,8

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Parameter setting functions...

2000-10-05 Thread Sigbjørn Skjæret
>> - If the parameter's type changes, the API has to change. > WOW, IF YOU CHANGE THE MEANING OF A PARAMETER, > THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE IN THE API ALREADY AND > WOULD BREAK BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY !!! The 3-function tag-pair API would handle this fluidly, with no problems what-s

[MP3 ENCODER] AIFC -> MP3 encoding

2000-10-05 Thread Chad Cunningham
Hi, I seem to have hit a wall here... I want to do an mp3 ripper for Mac OSX, which I thought would be a simple enough project, but it's getting more complicated. The OS automatically mounts cd's in a /Audio CD directory as aiff files. I thought this would make things easy as I could just write a

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] -q1

2000-10-05 Thread Stephan Ebertshäuser
Robert Hegemann schrieb: > Mark Powell schrieb am Mon, 02 Okt 2000: > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Robert Hegemann wrote: > > > > > does someone know any sample where a VBR encoded MP3 with -q1 > > > gives a better sounding MP3 compared to a same sized VBR with -q2 ? > > > > >From your recent posting

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2000-10-05 Thread Nathan D. Blomquist
Hello LAME Developers, I was just wondering if anyone has been to able build the GTK version of LAME 3.87. I have tried with the makefile for MSVC and by using the project files. I have gotten the same error in both cases: c:\lame-beta\src\lame3.87\main.c(154) : error C4013: 'lame_decoder' und

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] AIFC -> MP3 encoding

2000-10-05 Thread Sigbjørn Skjæret
[...] >So I'm back to square 1, how can I go from AIFC to MP3? I have no real >experience with sound file formats and I really just want to write a front >end which uses tools written by people who know a lot more than me such as >lame :) Any tips are appreciated. There's one really simple soluti

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] AIFC -> MP3 encoding

2000-10-05 Thread alex . broadhead
Howdy, Unless they have changed it significantly since I last looked at it (quite a while ago) AIFC is just AIFF with the added possibility of using compressed audio instead of raw PCM. Either format is 'chunk' based, like RIFF-WAVE. That is, an AIFF/C file consists of a number of chunks, most

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Interesting high quality settings and possible bug

2000-10-05 Thread Gargos Chode
Hello, Hrmm... that is an interesting idea. I completely hadn't thought of this. Does this actually take away bits from being used to encode the audio frame? If so then what is the real use of this switch? I had thought this switch would help to prevent the mp3 from being possibly corrupte

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 encoding speed : LAME & XING

2000-10-05 Thread engdev
> You're right Mark, compared to Lame 387 MMX --abr 128 Xing is only two > times faster Bo) > > Regards, > Wim Speekenbrink Using 160kbps for both LAME and Xing, encoding "Dire straits - telegraph road" LAME takes about 1.5 times longer than Xing. I thought the difference was greater, but I had

[MP3 ENCODER] Re:

2000-10-05 Thread Albert Faber
Add the following proto-type just above the main() function int lame_decoder(lame_global_flags *gfp,FILE *outf,int skip); and you should be set Albert http://www.cdex.n3.net/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Nathan D. Blomquist" <[EMAIL PR

Re[4]: [MP3 ENCODER] -q1

2000-10-05 Thread Roel VdB
Hello Gargos, Thursday, October 05, 2000, 12:08:31 PM, you wrote: GC> Have you tried using -q1 on fatboy.wav? It sounds significantly GC> worse than -h or -q2. If you dont have this file let me know and GC> I will send it to you. I agree that -q1 sounds worse on this one using "-V1 -mj -b128 -

Re: Re[4]: [MP3 ENCODER] -q1

2000-10-05 Thread Gargos Chode
Hello, Roel, maybe you should give these settings a try on that track: -V1 -mj -b128 -q2 -d -k --nspsytune --athlower -35 -X3 The bitrate stays pretty low (~224kbps) and it sounds very good... almost identical to the original. These are the only settings I could find that produce a smaller f