Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-05 Thread godot
> I am about to upgrade my motherboard and I am looking for suggestions > on what the minimum horsepower needed to do >= real-time encoding on > a AMD or a Cyrix systems. !(Intel inside) > > What is the encoding process bounded by? I/O operations or > computational speed? computational speed On

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-05 Thread Mark Taylor
> > I am about to upgrade my motherboard and I am looking for suggestions > on what the minimum horsepower needed to do >= real-time encoding on > a AMD or a Cyrix systems. !(Intel inside) > > What is the encoding process bounded by? I/O operations or > computational speed? > > > -- > Richar

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-05 Thread Ivo van Heel
> Computational speed, and cache size seem to be the most important > factors. But anything you buy today will have no problem encoding > (even with "lame -h") at faster than real time. > My 600mhz athalon is about 5x. It seems strange that my old Pentium 133MHz (hey, it's the best I've got at

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-05 Thread Richard A. Smith
On Fri, 5 May 2000 20:04:32 +0200, Ivo van Heel wrote: >> Computational speed, and cache size seem to be the most important >> factors. But anything you buy today will have no problem encoding >> (even with "lame -h") at faster than real time. >> My 600mhz athalon is about 5x. > >It seems stra

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-05 Thread Pramila Srinivasan
Hi all, I dont know if this has been addressed before: Has anyone ported LAME on a dsp, like motorola 68K... If so, how many MIPS does it require on a typical DSP with XY memories, some multifunctions, single cycle MAC, some 8K of on chip memory etc? Or any estimate? How about the Fraunhofer co

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-05 Thread Robert Hegemann
Ivo van Heel schrieb am Fre, 05 Mai 2000: > > Computational speed, and cache size seem to be the most important > > factors. But anything you buy today will have no problem encoding > > (even with "lame -h") at faster than real time. > > My 600mhz athalon is about 5x. > > It seems strange that

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-05 Thread Christian Schepke
> > Hi all, I dont know if this has been addressed before: > Has anyone ported LAME on a dsp, like motorola 68K... I try to port LAME to an TI TMS320C6701 ... but I'm still getting hunderts of linking errors ... When I'll be successful I'll post the source into the web and contact this list. > If

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-05 Thread spahm .
it be possible to change all the float calculations to table look up and speed things up? >From: Ivo van Heel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation >Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:04:32 +0200 > &g

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-06 Thread Ivo
> > > Computational speed, and cache size seem to be the most important > > > factors. But anything you buy today will have no problem encoding > > > (even with "lame -h") at faster than real time. > > > My 600mhz athalon is about 5x. The ~0.3x I get on my Pentium 133Mhz is with -h and CBR, bu

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-06 Thread Joshua Bahnsen
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 7:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation > > > Computational speed, and cache size seem to be the most important > > > factors. But anything you buy today will have no problem encoding > > > (even wit

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-06 Thread Robert Hegemann
Ivo schrieb am Sam, 06 Mai 2000: > > > > Computational speed, and cache size seem to be the most important > > > > factors. But anything you buy today will have no problem encoding > > > > (even with "lame -h") at faster than real time. > > > > My 600mhz athalon is about 5x. > > The ~0.3x I ge

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-06 Thread Takehiro Tominaga
>>So, when you get only rates around 0.3x, then there are following possibilities: >>a)your test song is hard to encode >>b)you use an older, slower version of LAME >>c)your compiler does some strange things >>d)your Pentium runs at half speed e) your machine has no 2nd cache or p

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Ivo
> > The ~0.3x I get on my Pentium 133Mhz is with -h and CBR, but my surprise > Linux, gcc 2.95.2 compiled, Pentium 166 MMX (200MHz): > duration 6:30, rate 0.9744 > Win95, Intel4.5 compiled, Pentium 166 MMX (200MHz): > duration 6:47, rate 0.9345 > Win95, Intel4.5 compiled, Pentium 133: > duration 1

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Ivo
Allright, my (hopefully ;)) final word on my Pentium 133MHz bad MP3 encoding performance... I just compiled the released 3.80 and it's slower (CBR) than what I just encoded with 3.69, as you can see below: Linux shell> lame -h track_07.wav LAME version 3.80 (www.sulaco.org/mp3) GPSYCHO: GPL psy

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Segher Boessenkool
> > I am about to upgrade my motherboard and I am looking for suggestions > > on what the minimum horsepower needed to do >= real-time encoding on > > a AMD or a Cyrix systems. !(Intel inside) > > > > What is the encoding process bounded by? I/O operations or > > computational speed? > > comput

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Segher Boessenkool
> > Computational speed, and cache size seem to be the most important Cache size and speed are the only important factor if you have cache misses, and you own an Intel processor. Cache misses are _extremely_ expensive. The P166 MMX and up have a better cache than the P133 and down. But my lowly

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Naoki Shibata
Segher> Oh, by the way, anyone interested in better DCT's? I made faster mdct_long and sent it to Takehiro. -- Naoki Shibata e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread godot
> > > What is the encoding process bounded by? I/O operations or > > > computational speed? > > > > computational speed > > On an embedded system with a K6-200 (without L2 cache!) and > > gogo 2.31 there was still CPU power left for other things. > > ...which means you are *not* cpu bound. My

Re: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Robert Hegemann
Hi Ivo! > Woah, that's pretty big difference, isn't it?? YES > > b) you use an older, slower version of LAME > > Well, it was based on some older versions, I'm now testing it with the > version > I have now, which is Lame 3.69. Is there much difference in speed from > the > newer versions?

Re: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Takehiro Tominaga
> "R" == Robert Hegemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: R> I can't remember, but I think there is a speed increase from R> 3.69 to 3.80 Yes there is. I made a more fast/efficient huffman coding. but another coding change (for thread safe) vailed it... > "I" == Ivo <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Ivo
> > Well, it was based on some older versions, I'm now testing it with the > > version > > I have now, which is Lame 3.69. Is there much difference in speed from > > the > > newer versions? > I can't remember, but I think there is a speed increase from 3.69 to 3.80 Well, I noticed a speed DECREAS

Re: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation

2000-05-08 Thread Ivo
> R> I can't remember, but I think there is a speed increase from > R> 3.69 to 3.80 > Yes there is. I made a more fast/efficient huffman coding. > but another coding change (for thread safe) vailed it... Hmmm... I encoded the same song twice, with the same parameters and it was encoded sl

faster mdct(Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation)

2000-05-08 Thread Takehiro Tominaga
Segher> Oh, by the way, anyone interested in better DCT's? Naoki> I made faster mdct_long and sent it to Takehiro. and it was merged to my tree. maybe tomorrow, CVS tree will get it. it's very swift :) --- Takehiro TOMINAGA // may the source be with you! -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list (

Re: faster mdct(Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Hardware reccomendation)

2000-05-11 Thread Takehiro Tominaga
> "T" == Takehiro Tominaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Segher> Oh, by the way, anyone interested in better DCT's? Naoki> I made faster mdct_long and sent it to Takehiro. T> and it was merged to my tree. maybe tomorrow, CVS tree will T> get it. T> it's very swift :) It'