[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-11-17 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:45 AM, user923005 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 16, 6:23 am, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've been doing some thinking about licensing and what I personally >> really care about. >> >> I realise there are only four things that really matter to me: >>

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-11-17 Thread user923005
On Nov 16, 6:23 am, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been doing some thinking about licensing and what I personally > really care about. > > I realise there are only four things that really matter to me: > > 1) That my copyright notice be maintained. > 2) That any offer to redistribute

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-11-16 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes you are right. Of course for a project like MPIR it would have to > be something like B. We'd have to have a well defined "MPIR Group" > which would be allowed to make decisions about commercial use. This > group could c

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-11-16 Thread Bill Hart
Yes you are right. Of course for a project like MPIR it would have to be something like B. We'd have to have a well defined "MPIR Group" which would be allowed to make decisions about commercial use. This group could consist of the current active developers (and all interested past contributors) w

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-11-16 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I realise there are only four things that really matter to me: > > 1) That my copyright notice be maintained. > 2) That any offer to redistribute in binary form is accompanied by an > equal offer to redistribute in source form

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-11-16 Thread Bill Hart
Yeah I certainly don't disagree with that. Of course all contributions to date are LGPL anyway, so no problem there. Bill. 2008/11/16 William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I've been doing some thinking about licensing a

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-11-16 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been doing some thinking about licensing and what I personally > really care about. > > I realise there are only four things that really matter to me: > > 1) That my copyright notice be maintained. > 2) That any offer t

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-11-16 Thread Bill Hart
I've been doing some thinking about licensing and what I personally really care about. I realise there are only four things that really matter to me: 1) That my copyright notice be maintained. 2) That any offer to redistribute in binary form is accompanied by an equal offer to redistribute in so

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-10-31 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michael Abshoff has been working away at that. Yes, getting native windows support for Sage is a very high priority for us. And people at Microsoft Research are financially (and otherwise) supporting this effort, which is

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Hart
Michael Abshoff has been working away at that. Of course eMPIRe runs natively on Windows due to the work of Brian Gladman, who is one of our key developers. Bill. 2008/11/1 user923005 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Oct 31, 6:20 pm, "Bill Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm sure you realise Wil

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-10-31 Thread user923005
On Oct 31, 6:20 pm, "Bill Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure you realise William Stein is the lead developer of Sage, and > eMPIRe is being essentially developed for Sage. I did not know that. Once it runs natively on Windows, I will definitely give it a run around the block. > What wa

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Hart
I'm sure you realise William Stein is the lead developer of Sage, and eMPIRe is being essentially developed for Sage. What was the TV show? Do you recall where you saw it? Bill. 2008/11/1 user923005 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Oct 31, 5:05 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fr

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-10-31 Thread user923005
On Oct 31, 5:05 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:20 PM, user923005 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 31, 1:13 pm, "Bill Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thanks for your comments user923005. You can use GPL code in a > >> commercial environment.

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-10-31 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:20 PM, user923005 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 31, 1:13 pm, "Bill Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks for your comments user923005. You can use GPL code in a >> commercial environment. You just can't distribute it with and make it >> a part of a commercial

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-10-31 Thread user923005
On Oct 31, 1:13 pm, "Bill Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your comments user923005. You can use GPL code in a > commercial environment. You just can't distribute it with and make it > a part of a commercial product. So you can use it for work, you just > can't sell it. That's fair en

[mpir-devel] Re: The GPL (rather than LGPL) license means it won't find use in commercial settings

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Hart
Thanks for your comments user923005. You can use GPL code in a commercial environment. You just can't distribute it with and make it a part of a commercial product. So you can use it for work, you just can't sell it. That's fair enough in my view. If I write the code for free, I can't see why othe