We should find their parents and make them pay.
Mike Nelson - maybe
Central
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Middle school students at Seward also "walked out" to go to the rally at the
U. They too are facing detention as a consequence. Seeing all these kids
taking a stand makes me think there may be hope for the world. I can't
imagine why anyone would deny our children the rights we hold dear for
ours
The problem of course is that the judicial system is
populated by politicals who will not force their party
to do their job or risk embarassing their party by
insisting they do their job. Dain
Lyngstad,phillips/edina
--- Peter Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would appear that the City Counci
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Peter T Schmitz wrote:
> Children may be our only hope in stopping this war which is costing
> citizens of Minneapolis dearly. Just imagine the possibilities if 25 to
> 50 per cent of school children in Great Britain and the United States
> refused to attend classes until our
Children may be our only hope in stopping this war which is costing
citizens of Minneapolis dearly. Just imagine the possibilities if 25 to
50 per cent of school children in Great Britain and the United States
refused to attend classes until our governments ended their war and
sanctions against Ira
Jon Gorder said: It's never been named anything. We who grew up there just
called it Tower hill. It hasn't functioned as a water tower since who knows
when. It's kind of waiting for a purpose. A landmark tower on the highest
point of land in Minneapolis. Not a bad memorial for a towering liitle m
Wizard is right about kids protesting. Bush is running up the bill for them
to pay off in the future. They probably don't UNDERSTAND that part of it.
But if they did, they were making the best use of their time to get out
there and say SPEND YOUR OWN MONEY, CAESAR. WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT USES
Forgot to sign my post. So in case people out there don't know who's
responsible for this latest outrage,
Linda Mann
Kingfield
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Below is an excerpt from the "the Wrap" a news service from the Guardian
newspaper in England I subscribe to. It concerns school walk outs in England
(the right wing carping should strike a familiar note).
I certainly hope that there isn't any retaliation against students at Field
or any other
Peter Jessen wrote:
It would appear that the City Council will pass a resolution tomorrow,
3/21/03, sponsored by CMs Johnson and Zirby, to direct the police chief to
proceed with mediation IF, IF, IF these three conditions are met: (1) the
writ of mandamus (writ from superior court to lower court
I regret that Paul's only cogent connection with Prospect Park ( Where
Schneiders has dwelt all these years) was that he garnered something like
90%of the vote there.
If he and family had only lived there awhile I don't think there would
be too much outcry if it were proposed that th
I just got back from the protest down at the Federal Court Building.
Thousands, many children and youth among the crowd. Very serendipitously, I
was talking to a staff member from Anthony Middle School this afternoon, and
he told me that my 12-year old son was one of 200 of their students th
List member Susan Marcicle asked me to post the URL to a
column that Doug Grow wrote about political discussions at Schneider
Drug, which is owned by Tom Sengupta.
There's no live link but those with access to the Library can look it
up online. It appeared on page 2b on Aprtil 10, 2000.
Steve Br
It would appear that the City Council will pass a resolution tomorrow,
3/21/03, sponsored by CMs Johnson and Zirby, to direct the police chief to
proceed with mediation IF, IF, IF these three conditions are met: (1) the
writ of mandamus (writ from superior court to lower court directing some
acti
Paul,
Perhaps you should get your information correct before you start
making unfounded accusations about schools and teachers.
First, the district, in anticipation of walkouts and protests, sent
specific guidelines to ALL schools and teachers. These guidelines
specifically laid out what could an
I am very glad that CCHT, with the approbation of the Elliot Park
neighborhood and substantial participation by a number of funding
sources, has undertaken to convert the five-story St. Barnabas hospital
for use as a safe and secure residence for homeless youth. St. Barnabas
is in the shadow of the
You know, Craig, for years I've heard Managers whine about how hard they
had it. How they showed up first and left last. And in 25+ years of
consulting experience, at all kinds of companies all over the Twin Cities,
I've only seen it actually be true twice.
In general, my experience ha
What does CCHT say it is going to cost per unit for this housing in the
Harrison neighborhood??
Steve Meldahl
Jordan (work)
- Original Message -
From: "Jason Sittko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: [Mpls] RE: Mr. Arthur's CCHT res
--- "Jordan S. Kushner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(snip): Forget
> about independent and
> critical thinking. Forget about training students
> to become politically
> aware and even active citizens who can come to their
> own conclusions about
> social and political issues, and even, god-forbid
What are the benefits of children engaging in civil disobedience against a war most of their elders in the United States are supporting? Among them surely must be the education (not schooling) they are receiving about the consequences of confronting existing power relations. They are also increa
What are the benefits of children engaging in civil disobedience against a war most of their elders in the United States are supporting? Among them surely must be the education (not schooling) they are receiving about the consequences of confronting existing power relations. They are also increas
Title: Re: [Mpls] What is your [school] list up to
today?
Craig Miller wrote:
This is how it starts to happen.
All things being equal one kid graduates
from Kerkhoven-Murdoch-Sunburg
and the other kid graduates from SW High Mpls. All things being
equal, then
you read the headline of what MPS do
One can see the reasons why I needed help. Mr Arthur's staff generated
response appears to come straight from it's literature; save the Harrison
comments which I'm sure CCHT wants to edit in soon.
Mr. Arthur's 14 year's of experience is in geographically containing poverty
under the guise of bein
Craig writes:
on 3/20/03 12:34 PM, Craig Miller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is how it starts to happen. All things being equal one kid graduates
> from Kerkhoven-Murdoch-Sunburg
> and the other kid graduates from SW High Mpls. All things being equal, then
> you read the headline of what
From Tom Welling
"I guess the question might be how strong the relationship between
RT & Peter is, I've heard a lot of people say they are feuding -
anyone have more info on that?"
I would suggest you think about who could be possible
candidates against RT next time around in the election cycl
Wells Fargo Mortgage, primary beneficiary of the
nearly $200 million Access Project, and potential
beneficiary the recent NRP mortgage insurance proposal
is alleged to engage in predatory lending in the very
community they claim to serve!!
Article from Insight News, published 03.12.03
online at
What WOULD Einstein do?
He was a professor - I suspect that he would applaud these children for
stretching their minds.
He was a survivor of Nazi germany - He would applaud these children for
using the voice they still have.
He was an opponent of war. You do the math.
And he showed that Newt
Besides the $3,000,000,000 a day of our tax dollars our military is
spending making Iraq safe for big oil, we taxpayers are having our
pockets picked at home here too. Minneapolis Police seem to be ordering
mandatory overtime for saturday, and ordering overtime for later today
also. At the sta
Well this sure set off a hornet's nest.
Anybody been reading Doonesbury lately? How all Oregon High School
Graduates are being kept out of the mythical Ivy League college.
This is how it starts to happen. All things being equal one kid graduates
from Kerkhoven-Murdoch-Sunburg
and the other kid
Title: PiPress on Bill of Rights vote
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/5433663.htm
MINNEAPOLIS: Federal security laws are targeted
With the nation at war, the Minneapolis City Council is expected to pass a resolution Friday that would prevent the city from enforcing some s
Paul,
Perhaps you should get your information correct before you start making
unfounded accusations about schools and teachers.
First, the district, in anticipation of walkouts and protests, sent specific
guidelines to ALL schools and teachers. These guidelines specifically laid
out what could
Peter Schmitz:After reading all the thoughtful comments, both pro and con, regardingthe 35W Access Project, I was wondering what Mayor Rybak's position is onthis issue. Can list members help me out here? Tom Welling:I'm sure it won't be a big suprise, but I've gotten only vague answers from the m
I am unimpressed with CCHT's work; in my opinion, they use way too much public funding to "create" precious few units of housing. I use the word create in parenthesis because they destroy a lot of housing too, and I would call their projects poorly managed. CCHT has wreaked havoc in Elliot Park
The schools REALLY missed an opportunity here. They should have cancelled
regular classes and convened the student body in the auditorium to get a
full-school discussion going about things like "wars that democracies
fight", the history of the War Powers Act (which is allowing Bush to attack
wi
Has this list gone absolutely mad?
About "remembering" which job applicants are graduates
of Minneapolis Public Schools and which aren't, I have
2 things:
--Be sure you apply that standard to the Rhodes
Scholars, IB Diploma winners (including myself), Ivy
grads, and Athena winners who graduated f
http://santafenewmexican.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=7421833&BRD=2144&PAG=461&dept_id=367954&rfi=6
Farok Hamod, the imam at a mosque in northeast
Minneapolis, said Tuesday that he does not support an
invasion of Iraq and wonders whether all other
alternatives have been exhausted. AP | Jim Mone
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Chris Johnson wrote:
> Mr. Donnelly confuses correlation with causality, a common mistake. I
> recommend spending the time necessary to clearly undestand the
> difference, as it's a frequent problem when people are arguing.
CD:
I'm not confused about the difference between correlation and causat
On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 11:04 AM, ken bradley wrote:
The teachers did not have the students vote for walk
out at Field Middle School yesterday. The staff was
truly surprised by the students walking out, and they
have been informed future walk outs will have
consequences.
I think that is as
We decry our children's lack of civic engagement, and then when we don't
agree with the form that engagement takes, we criticize it.
How many times has someone on the list said, directly or indirectly,
"Democracy is for those who show up"?
Well, the kids are showing up, making their own signs,
I will never be a parent, but I burst with pride for our young people that were able
to muster the
courage to fight what they perceive to be an injustice. These kids, their parents,
and teachers
are a credit to our community and will be the spark for ongoing evolution of what it
means to be a
In a message dated 3/20/03 8:47:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Why not just go ahead and complete the process that has been taking place
> for the past 20 years. Make the schools nothing but a training ground to
> mold students into corporate commodities
Keith says;
Hello Minneapolis Issues:
Ken Bradley Stated:" He told me the teacher had the
students vote if they
wanted to protest."
Ken Bradley Correction: My son participated in a class
project that involved the children holding signs over
35W on Monday. It was just his class and they voted.
The teacher
In response to Jason Sittko's posted question, at mnforum.org, as to whether anyone
has experience with the Central Community Housing Trust (CCHT):
Yes. I have 14 ½ years of experience with the Central Community Housing Trust. In
every single project done by CCHT in the past 17 years, no proje
Hello Minneapolis Issues:
I want to take this moment to boast about my son Isaac
Bradley, who attends Field School and has participated
in the protest.
He told me the teacher had the students vote if they
wanted to protest. The teacher told them to make signs
reflecting their opinion.
I am very
Why not just go ahead and complete the process that has been taking place
for the past 20 years. Make the schools nothing but a training ground to
mold students into corporate commodities. Forget about independent and
critical thinking. Forget about training students to become politically
aware
Hi All!
I really appreciate Jeff Seidel's excellent and informative post. It took much
of the wind out of my sails and went a ways toward restoring my faith in The
Public Education Establishment, at least the that consists of Field Elementary.
My biggest misconception was that all Public Elemen
As the mother of an 8 year old third grade girl, I must speak on her behalf
and many of her classmates. She has been moved to tears thinking that
George Bush is going to bomb Iraqi children. I tell her he would never
intentionally kill children, but that Saddam Hussein is a bad man (remember,
sh
How very poignant, led by eighth graders, children at Field school held
signs against a fence protesting this war. If there is any other sight
that should make a grown person cry, that's the one. Who will the war
hurt most? Shouldn't they speak out to say this is not good?
We all have got to lea
This is just a guess, but I'll bet a lot of Minnesota taxpayers would
object to making involuntary political contributions to the tune of $17,000
per child in Minneapolis.
This dog and pony show (the small children protesting) should be added to
the list of reasons why less than half of Minneapoli
--Original Message Follows
From: "Craig Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I believe that the schools that organize and allow kids to take class time
ff to go out and protest are
using taxpayer money for political purposes and bordering on brainwashing
the kids.
I take it th
I believe that the schools that organize and allow kids to take class time
off to go out and protest are
using taxpayer money for political purposes and bordering on brainwashing
the kids.
It has been many years since I was on the frontline of management in the
private sector. You know the positi
Well Paul. Congratulations! This is my first post in over three years
of being a passive observer to the Minneapolis Issues bulletin board.
You just hit a little too close to home and I thought I would comment
on your comments.
Just so you know, Paul, I am one of those obnoxious parents who h
In a message dated 3/20/03 6:45:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> His tenants postings of, NOT Mpls. specific issues, personal
> attacks, and all cumulative violations of List rules, shall be violations
of
>
> his landlord licensee.
>
Sorry I mean't "license". Keit
In a message dated 3/20/03 6:04:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>
> David Brauer
> King Field
> Giving peace a chance on the list
>
Keith says; Learning opportunity into the perils of landlord-ry. DB is the
Mpls. landlord; The List members are his tenants. I will be
After reading all the thoughtful comments, both pro and con, regarding
the 35W Access Project, I was wondering what Mayor Rybak's position is on
this issue. Can list members help me out here?
Also, I was recalling the Mayor's passionate and gallant defense of State
House Representative Phyllis
David Shove writes:
> Where in that statement did I say or imply that graffitti should be
> tolerated? At NO point did I say I wanted both. I want neither. But I was
> misrepresented in a way to dismiss my statements about billboards - and
> very effectively, I see.
My apologies, David. I impute
Any threat of retaliation by the Public School administration against
students, teachers and principals for exercising and allowing the exercise of
first amendment rights should be met with massive protests at the next school
board meeting (which generally happen on the 2nd and last Tuesday of t
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