I would like to point out that some conclusions are being drawn that are neither the
facts nor were they contained in the article. First off, if you don't believe in
community service for minor violations than it won't matter debating, and you should
probably not even continue reading this post
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It is rare that one gets an opportunity to correct misconceptions of history and
culture of this magnitude, and I believe just such misperceptions explain a piece of
the puzzle of why children of color, especially African Americans do as poorly as they
do within the system.
To begin with Africa
If I can, I would like to clear up a couple of what seems like misconceptions
regarding the drug dealing, gangs, and solutions and ongoing efforts.
First an observation was made at a meeting this morning by someone else (who I will
leave nameless unless she wants to take credit) that I agree wit
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One of the messages that I and others have put out repeatedly is how much this is not just a Jordan problem or a Northside problem, but a City, County and State problem. Don started the ball rolling with his vigil, but he had a vision of a larger effort and RT, Mark Stenglein and Tim Pawlenty all
One of the changes that the Councilmember issued the call to action for was that of 250 volunteers from across the city to help kick off the new Jordan Street Patrol. And so this request is out to everyone in the city and open to anyone anywhere. We need volunteers. We're asking for people to c
Well, no Michelle, no one's dragging you back into anything. You keep jumping into the discussion, presenting your opinion as fact and then complaining that you're being persecuted. It's not the same thing.
You delineate a process whereby you allege that the "community" elected your team, and
Interesting choice of colloquiallism, Keith, especially considering this weekend is Juneteenth.
Good point, except that it is based on a false premise, "that the City has picked the members of the "Community" negotiation team. Despite what Michelle has said, this is not the truth. The City did no
Michelle, I think you misunderstand the process and spirit of mediation, and the guidelines that you keeping quoting (which, incidently, you have stated exist but have not provided any specific citation such as the document name, paragraph and subsection so that people can verify what you're saying
Okay, first off Michelle, you haven't been "figuratively getting my backside kicked on this list for daring to bring out the negative role Kinshasha Kambui" or daring to question the "untouchables", you've been being questioned about your statements because your rhetoric is inflammatory but has lit
Michelle, I've generally been supportive of your positions, but this is one time that youare way off base with this, to the point of being absurd and offensive. You made a lot of accussations in these last emails and for someone who doesn't know Kinshasha, nor the inner workings of the Mayor's off
Having read the story, it sounds like he's getting out while he can
still get something for his Minneapolis property.
Actually no. As someone who worked with Jim for several years, I had talked with him about Ortonville back in 2000. He had told me his plans and was already preparing to do
Thomas,
I know Superman and Batman and this is no Superman and Batman. Nor does it seem like John Wayne. Bearing in mind that there is still an investigation and other facts might come out, as I read it, the first officer wasn't wrestling with the driver but rather trying to keep him from speedin
Okay, I'm sorry for anyone getting this a multitude of times. It is coming through in
gibberish. This is the last time I sent it before I start pleading with David for
help.
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Mark, allow me to offer some insight then as to why this is more serious than just being a nincompo
Trying this again:
Mark, allow me to offer some insight then as to why this is more serious than just
being a nincompoop and such a big deal. A bigot is literally "a person obstinately or
intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices." Given that Lindner
would deny the perse
Mark, allow me to offer some insight then as to why this is more serious than just
being a nincompoop and such a big deal. A bigot is literally "a person obstinately or
intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices." Given that Lindner
would deny the persecution of Gays and Le
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Victory
I just want to chime ine with thanks to Michelle for her riveting description of
"democracy" in action at the Legislature.
Although it's also true that Michelle's position would have prevailed even if the
committee vote on H.F. 67 had been 8 to 8. A tie vote would also have killed the bill.
O
Wow, Jim. I've got to say I can't believe that you accused anyone of spin control in
a post like this; much less to draw so many conclusions and connections between
unrelated areas. So if I'm reading you correctly, no one's allowed to agree with a
policy change or suggestion without there bein
An important question regarding a separate Police communications Department has been
missed: What motivates the huge media overreaction to this policy change? Considering
the paltry coverage of many other, larger policy changes in City Hall, why has this
issue been the lead story on TV news? It
I apologize to all of the concerned followers of my posts who emailed me over the last
few days wondering about my silence on the list. I was unavoidably detained as my
darling and lovely wife went into labor 2 weeks early and delivered our wonderful
daughter on Thursday. She, apparently, coul
Six score and 11 years ago, the State Legislature penned the City Charter for
Minneapolis to establish it as the great city it is today. It was purposed to provide
the guidance and structure for the constitution governing this municipality. It
defined the duties and responsibilities of elected
I think that the Mayor's endorsement is fantastic. It was also great that joining him
today were: Hennepin County Commissioner Mark Stenglein, City Council Member Barret
Lane, former candidates Valdis Rozentals (Republican Party), Trish Schilling
(Independent), and Brother Shane Price (Green Pa
In order to keep the discussion on the issues going:
Don Samuels on:
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term health of preservation of neighborhoods."
· Commit to supporting lead abatement programs and protect the health of childr
forgot to sign:
Jonathan Palmer
in Victory
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Brian is either unaware of the contact I received and the requests for information
regarding the DFL pledges and rules or else we have a different definition of
respectful. And I look forward to discussing this matter with him more as rationale
people to resolve this for the good of all involve
Hear Hear Lisa, the problem is that all of the detractors want you to "pay no
attention to the man behind the curtain as it were" and obfuscate the true issues with
political sound bytes.
Wizard raised an interesting argument except for one thing...no printer was selected
prior to the convent
Forgot to sign.
Jonathan Palmer
in Victory
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Again reflecting on Britt's piece on the 3rd ward, and the need to be specific on the issues, I thought I'd post another section from Don Samuels' campaign platform posted on his website (www.donsamuels.org).
Again, I wanted to wri
Again reflecting on Britt's piece on the 3rd ward, and the need to be specific on the issues, I thought I'd post another section from Don Samuels' campaign platform posted on his website (www.donsamuels.org).
Again, I wanted to write my opinions contrasting Don and Olin's positions, but I continu
I read with interest Britt's piece on the 3rd ward, but was a little surprised at the closing which said that both candidates needed to be specific on the issues. Surprised because Don Samuels' website (www.donsamuels.org) has his Campaign Platform right there on the site. And since I personally
Last week I posted a query regarding what was going on at 2:30am in the neighborhood. Yesterday, I got a real pleasant surprise when my Councilmember, Barb Johnson, called me to say she'd seen the post and wanted to tell me what she thought it might be. I thought it was not only a nice thing but
Well I was told I wasn't allowed to fight wit- I mean, respond to Dyna or Vanessa's
posts, but I figured I could sneak this one in while the campaign was out
doorknocking.;-)
And while I appreciate Vanessa's clipnotes of the articles, she left out my favorite
quote:
"I look forward to leading
This is more of a request for info than anything else. But I was heading to bed at 2:30am and happened to notice flashing lights outside. Assuming it was the police I went over to the window and was surprised to see what looked like a City pick-up truck with flashing yellow lights. One guy had o
'Twas the night before the election, when all through the ward,
Not a campaign was stirring, it seemed we'd all be ignored.
The lit was dropped on the windshields with care,
In hopes that tomorrow soon would be there.
The hacks were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of victory danced i
Dyna,
Very interesting post, and a bit revisionist I think. You mention how only 3
candidates screened with Stonewall and OM is the only candidate to have won the
approval of the Stonewall Caucaus, yet during the time of that three week ago
challenge you also said:
"I'm a member of the Stone
(VF) especially since I myself, thought you were Keith Ellison. I think you know I am
BlackHaving said this are you trying to tell me that only white people support
Olin??? I think if you look around, there are many other blacks that are jumping at
the chance to elect Olin Moore, Including
Vanessa,
Well I'm having a great holiday, thanks for mentioning it.
If I could clarify a few things that I'm assuming that you are not aware of because of
being new to the political process. But they could very well be just your opinion
(VF) To say that is two years down the road, is just not
If I may quote Hoosiers, Gene Hackman's character said, "there's a tradition in
tournement play not to climb the step ahead before you climb the one you're on." I
think it is not only not shortsighted to have not thought about 2005, but
irresponsible to do so.
I can't speak for anyone else t
Robert,
You raise a good point, one that I've made a number of times on this list, and I
kindly suggest that you ask Brother Shane's people to do the same thing. I have a
number of close friends in the 3rd ward (one of which even grew up with Shane) who
have told me the same thing that (I have
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I guess my thoughts regarding integrity in campaigning practices fell on deaf ears...
I would hope that we could avoid rumors and innuendo as attacks on candidates, but I
guess that says something about how far people are willing and have to go to attempt
defame such a go
I guess my thoughts regarding integrity in campaigning practices fell on deaf ears...
I would hope that we could avoid rumors and innuendo as attacks on candidates, but I
guess that says something about how far people are willing and have to go to attempt
defame such a good candidate as Don Samu
I guess my thoughts regarding integrity in campaigning practices fell on deaf ears...
I would hope that we could avoid rumors and innuendo as attacks on candidates, but I
guess that says something about how far people are willing and have to go to attempt
defame such a good candidate as Don Samu
>>Again, my apologies for being employed, paying taxes, etc..- I take it you want me
>to quit my job and go on the dole so I can attend all these forums? <<<
Dyna,
How is it that you seem to be drawing conclusions from unrelated statements. Mark
said that HE couldn't speak to Don's familiarit
>>Again, my apologies for being employed, paying taxes, etc..- I take it you want me
>to quit my job and go on the dole so I can attend all these forums? <<<
Dyna,
How is it that you seem to be drawing conclusions from unrelated statements. Mark
said that HE couldn't speak to Don's familiarit
In a message dated 12/20/2002 2:37:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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>Do you need any further explanation of why a DFL disident such as myself has been won
>over by Olin Moore?<<
No but I'd like an explanation of what you mean when you say: "Sorry to disappoint
you, but Ol
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But, at the DFL endorsing convention, he wasn't able to answer a question about the continuation of TIF. When I was a a candidate for office, I don't think everybody expected me to know the answers to every
I find it a bit disheartening that after the forum last night and given how this race
is going, that instead of talking about how the endorsed candidates stack up against
each other of the two leading DFLers stack up against each other, the discussion is
about how the Black candidates stand up a
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writes:
> Keith says; " Come December 30 --I (also) believe the neighborhoods will win"... but
>only if Men or Women beat a machine. I pray, and will work, for Shane Price and all
>candidates free of the DFL Mach
It's unfortunate that people take the time to do this. I returned from my honeymoon on October 27th to find my Wellstone sign taken. Now whether it was opposition trying to take away to visibility or someone looking for a memento, I don't know. But it's still a petty thing to do either way, and
Spelled Emilie's name wrong. Sorry Emilie!
Jonathan Palmer
Victory
P.S. Hopefully this doesn't count as a second post since it's clarification
Emily,
You raise a valid point, however, I'd like to mention two things. First, In Stevens Square Loring Heights, they start tagging and towing at 7:00am on the plowing days. I watched it for 5 years, and so I don't know if it's just your neighborhood or certain sections of town that people don'
I read the article that you linked to, and I'm hoping there's something that was left
out of your post, because I'm trying to figure out: 1. How you get from the
Implentation Committee's actions to your somewhat misleading and libellous Subject
line that insinuates a sinister plot by the Mayor
>>By golly, Jonathan you got the Mississippi County correct.<<
You'd be surprised how much of my family roots, especially the Irish are down
in Mississippi County.
I think Jim raises a very good point about this dialogue being very
important, and needing to be raised. I think the largest prob
>>Jonathan seems to take some liberalities with what I actually wrote. His
opinion of what I meant, and his assumptions about the real meaning of what
I said may be at odds with what I wrote and what I actually meant.<<<
My apologies sincerely to Jim if I interpreted anything incorrectly, and I
>I missed your point. Are you asking White people to apologize for being White? I
>didn't ask to be born White, gay, male/female, rich or poor; we all have to deal with
>what we are dealt.<<
Yes, I think you did. I'm asking people to be cognizant, not apologetic. You may not
have asked to
With respect to Jim's opinion and his advice, to Brandon, I think perhaps he not fully
understand the problem that he delineates.
wrt issue 1, whether White people were part of the group that enslaved Blacks or not,
they do enjoy certain privileges, freedoms and advantages by virtue of the fact
Jim,
Could you explain to me how filing a lawsuit to bar people from living in a certain
area is fighting to PREVENT discrimination? I'm not an attorney nor do I have your
years of experience in this area, but it seems to me just from reading what's been put
out here and what I know of the si
>>Once again the community activists come out when a black person is shot by the
>police. But why aren't they over here off of Lowry? Why aren't they telling the
>black kids to get off the street corners and clean up the neighborhood they live in?
>I see more people sitting on the stoop of the
As a point of clarification, it should be noted that I did not "forget" the promise to
abide by the endorsement, but rather received such an outpouring of requests from
neighbors and other constituents to run because they did not feel represented by the
endorsement, and they did not feel as if
Actually from what I've heard from some reliable yet unrevealable sources it has much
to do with the demographics and the level or perceived level of crime in the area. I
do not happen to agree with this as being an acceptable reason for the closing, but it
was not unexpected.
While conveni
I want to say that for Minneapolis Bakeries French Meadow has my vote too,
but
Krispy Kremes are one of the greatest things on this earth, and coming from
the South I can testify that they are a southern fixture and tradition, nay a
way of life! Whenever I go back to Atlanta, I always br
To begin with, I reference this as SOME police officers only to underscore
the point that not all officers are bad or doing bad things. I know several
officers very well, respect them, and have seen them operate in a friendly,
professional manner. As we're looking at a situation that has a lo
Is it ever too late to do the right thing?
There's a lot of talk going around about cost, and which leader said this or
supports who, and who heard nothing bad said in the community about Olson,
and while all of these current comments have made me look in my closet for
Rod Serling, it has also
Neal Blanchett wrote:
>>Otherwise, let's wait for the facts, see if these police applied MPD procedures
>correctly, and discuss whether or not we need to change those procedures. The
>investigative report will probably do these things (although it will disappoint those
>of you who have
alread
For those of us who obviously missed something can you post the location?
And how does it stack up against some local favorites such as Kierans?
Erin Go Bragh!
Jonathan Palmer
(Family name Kimbriel, currently determining the County)
Stevens Square-Loring Heights
Walt, you raise several good points about caution regarding this situation.
And we should be wary of making sweeping generalizations about the police
department or "murder" et. al. We cannot afford to demonize the police not
because they might go somewhere else to work, but because it's not t
Andy kind of put it best, just leaving it at King is too easy to confuse it. And
seeing he was the only American who has a National Holiday (Washington & Lincoln used
to be they've been combined into Presidents Day in many regards) I think it's worth
the extra letters. It'll be referred to as
>>Change is indeed inevitable, but 2+2 still = 4, Newton, Einstein, Tesla, Bohr and a
>host of other dead white guy's have not been refuted and phonics still works.<<
Not necessarily, and while it's not my field of study, if you talk to some serious
math professors, they can show you how 2+2 do
To begin with, I'm not certain which "deviant sexual proclivities" you're
referring to, so perhaps you could clarify a little more of what you meant by
this.
Multiculturalism and Diversity are both tough issues, but not the same thing
as you defined at the beginning of your post. And while it
First the Black Forest, now my favorite, Rainbow Chinese Restaurant. Neat article
where they asked two Minneapolis and two St. Paul restaurants to come up with creative
variations on the hot dish, and featured Whittier resident and business owner Tammy
Wong. The meals sound scrumptious. And i
Cafeteria Plans allow for companies to allow employees to choose from a variety of
coverages. Most benefit plans are designed to give everyone in the group identical
coverage, Cafeteria style allows the employee to tailor their program to their
specific needs, much like picking out your Jell-O
There is an exhibit opening today at MCTC, 1501 Hennepin Avenue, profiling the works
and philosophies of Mohandas K. Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr. and Daisaku Ikeda
entitled: Gandhi-King-Ikeda: "A Legacy of Building Peace". The open ceremony is
tonight from 7-9pm.
The exhibit was created wi
In what is sure to gain me very little, if any, friends and probably a few
enemies, I am weighing in on Lydia House with what will probably not be a
very popular opinion on either side.
For the record, I do absolutely think that Stevens Square-Loring Heights,
Whittier, and a number of other ne
If you don't show up tomorrow you'll be missing great music, great food, and a chance
to talk and hobnob with some really great people. Plus a chance to bid on some really
great items. So carve out an hour or two and come party with the people.
But if you can't make it and you want to contrib
Natalie Johnson-Lee will be there. Dean Zimmerman and Jenny Heiser will be
there. Sue Jahn will be there. Will you be there?
Only two days left before the smash event of the season. Morris Wilson and
Friends will be playing and there will be food and drink for everyone. Come
celebrate the
>>I have participated in the discussion about education topics on this list quite
>extensively since I joined it about a month ago. Where have you been?<<
Actually working on the issues.
I am the Deputy Director for a alternative school within the Minneapolis Public
Schools, President of th
Is there a particular reason why Lynnell's OPINION article is being attacked with such
fervor?
Schools are having problems, children of color rank behind white children, and the
lower on the economic indicator a child is the less resources they tend to have.
These are pretty much understood,
Well unfortunately I don't think that was the gist of the column Lynell wrote. While
I liked it and agreed with the points I have to disagree with Mr. Mann that the point
of the article was "bashing bad parents", but rather advising parents not to be so
worried about which school their child w
This is in response to Audrey Johnson's response, with which I'm forced to disagree
with and also clarify a few items.
I think it's a slight exaggeration to call this situation "gross mismanagement" and
the delineation of it is a bit misleading.
Of the $3-3.5M debt, a third is the building
I have to say that Megan and David are right, while opening an email with maniacal
laughter is great for dramatic emphasis, it is not respectful communication, and as a
member of this list who appreciates the decorum, I must respect the rules. And I have
the integrity to admit my shortcomings
BWAH HA HA HA HA!
I'm sorry, it's hard to keep from gut laughing after reading that. Thanks "Dean" for
respondingor did he?
You know it's really nice that Rick forwarded the response to the list, even though it
reads a lot more like something he would say. Normally, I wouldn't question
There's nothing like transferring a post from Word to AOL to add a little levity to a
situation. This is the same post without the messed up codes which made it look like
I was initially cursing at people cleaned up. If you weeded through it, you don't
have to read this, if you couldn't get p
Rick, you’ve missed the point of my post and question, and as the campaign
manager for the 6th ward DFL candidate, I would expect, first of all, that you would
not make unfounded assertions and accusations because you are unhappy with being
questioned. As a constituent and as a DFL member, it
Getting back to the main point of my question, which was to get an answer that was
satisfactory.
To quote Malcolm X, "No. I'm not satisfied."
Rick Stafford has responded for the Kallenbach campaign alledging that my post was the
first notice they had of any forum. While I find this hard to b
I think you missed the point that I was making which was not so much to have another emergency number as it was to actually do something. St. Paul's number may not be available until next week (that's a whole other issue) but at least it's putting a focus on the situation and making an effort. Ho
Please someone tell me there's more to this story that wasn't said. Please tell me that I have missed something and that St. Paul has not again eclipsed Minneapolis in dealing with matters of racism like they have with racial profiling.
"St. Paul Mayor Norm Coleman said he will set up a telephone
Molly,
If you need a dark-haired tan guy to go with you, I'm there! Of course, these same people would probably assume that I was one of the terrorists because of my skin color and we'd have fight on our hands...that is, of course, what they do, and why this is even being discussed.
The sad thin
Okay, now that this is over, I can tell you what I really think. I hate you
all! I'm disenfranchised with the whole system commencing with each of you.
I hope your dog dies and you can't find your socks
Okay, in all seriousness, I would like to congratulate everyone in Ward 6 on
a well
Tim,
I think this is a brilliant idea, and one that I have been doing in my
neighborhood as Chair of the Stevens Square Community Organization for the
past three years through our monthly board meeting. And while this provides
at least one opportunity for people to ask questions, discuss issue
Having a sudden synaptic misfire, I inadvertently listed Robert Lilligren as
a Green Party member when I know that he is DFL. My apologies for the
unintentional mistake.
Jonathan Palmer
Stevens Square-Loring Heights
Candidate for City Council, Ward 6
Leadership Does Matter!
www.jonathanpalmer.
I was surprised at the lack of presence of many of the candidates for Mpls
office at what is one of the largest celebrations with regard to the African
American community. As a point of information, RT did have a booth directly
across from mine, which was two booths down from the Green Party bo
Forward for Annie, message follows:
I have too many posts so you can forward this for me...
you are right - I hadn't been cognizant of the hours and the dusk thing! dah!
And yes I love background music.
So I'm in - Stevens Square is just fine!
AY
At 12:37 AM 6/8/01 EDT, you wrote:
>Just as
Just as a few points of information and follow up on Annie's point (I'm bias
obviously), but the get together is suggested for 6:30 - 9:00. The movie
here starts at dusk which is usually around 9:00 or a little after, so it
would actually be an option for anyone who wanted to stay past the get
If I might throw a suggestion into the mix for your consideration Barbara as
the originator of this event, and to the list members as well. Every
Wednesday in June and July we have our free Movies and Music Program in
Stevens Square Park. A local musician or band plays for about an hour
start
Thanks for putting that out there, Steven.
As a member of the Advisory Panel for this Task Force, I would encourage
everyone to get involved with this project, though, not just campaigns.
It is an important mission that is working on institutional commitment to
public purposes and responsibil
Tim B.
I don't think Tim C. was making a comment on the elections themselves, but
rather on the importance of litter as an issue facing the city, and saying
that if one thinks this is the most important issue of the mayor's race than
either one is out of touch with reality, or else there is no
I think the important thing to differentiate between here is there's a
difference between the foundations and the people who manage them. Corporate
entities have never, in my experience, done anything from a totally
altruistic motive. They start foundations or have community development
progr
I think in order to be fair to Dean, it’s important to note as someone who
has worked in the corporate world, and I’m sure that Barb would be able to
attest to this, that it is very difficult to get time away from your job, and
that they tend to be a lot less understanding about a candidate foru
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