Re: OS/390 5.2 - Stuck Message!

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Ford
I was forced to bite the bullet and clear this queue, which "fixed" my problem. So I'll gues we'll never know what caused this. Robert Broderick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OTMAIL.COM> cc:

ICO1 - Anyone use successfully

2003-09-15 Thread Christopher Fryett
I am trying to use SupportPAC IC01 and I am getting the following error, and from what I can tell I have the latest and greatest Java classes for WMQ (WMQI v2.1 CSD5, WMQ 5.3 Client): C:\mqsiv21\Tool>mqsiexportmsgflows c:\temp\allflows.xml file:/C:/mqsiv21/Tool/Parser: 1, 0: Invalid document struc

Problem passing Identity context with Java MQQueueManager class

2003-09-15 Thread Richard Brunette
I'm having a problem passing identity context in a Java application using the base classes. The platform is NT running the 5.3 CSD4 client for Java. There seems to be no problem if I create an MQQueue instance and use the MQPutMessageOptions to value the contextReference and set options for MQPMO_

Re: Error adding Element to Workspace: Trace

2003-09-15 Thread Yonny Serrano
Yes, they are at the same maintenance level, both are running in the same box, the broker is on AIX, and is also at the latest CSD level. Any idea? Yonny. Yonny Serrano/GBM 13/09/2003 02:10 To p.m.

Re: Trigger On First not a good idea for Batch?

2003-09-15 Thread Beinert, William
Seems to me that an app designed to be triggered should never get a failure on it's first GET. So it should either abend or notify someone if this occurs... Bill Beinert Systems Programming Con Edison When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs! When they took

Re: Strange behavior with a Temp. Dynamic queue

2003-09-15 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
Paul, I will play with this tonight and get back to you offline by tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Paul Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Strange behavior with a Temp. Dynamic queue Peter, I've just tried it

Re: Strange behavior with a Temp. Dynamic queue

2003-09-15 Thread Paul Clarke
Peter, I've just tried it again on my system and all works as expected. I think perhaps we should take this offline. The key question, from my point of view, is whether MO71 is at fault here or the product or is this some form of limitation. Firstly, if you issue the same set of commands from RUN

Re: OS/390 5.2 - Stuck Message!

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Ford
Well, the CSQUDLH uses the WAIT(NO) option, which means that it will end when it reaches the end of the queue. And it ran for 30 minutes before we canceled it. Same for the browse program and for PQEdit. The ISPF panels show 1,931 message on the queue. It may be that some of these are uncommitted,

Re: Trigger On First not a good idea for Batch?

2003-09-15 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
Bobbee, I dunno why, but I just got the image of those 30 step contraptions that kick off when the alarm clock goes off that catapult the sleeping person into the shower, starts the toaster, the popping toast flips a switch to start the eggs frying ;-) Actually, check out the Honda commercia

Re: Trigger On First not a good idea for Batch?

2003-09-15 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
Interesting. Yes this a possibility. I suppose I could just use the 2 queue concept. The first queue is a "kickstart" queue that is triggered on first. When the sending job starts, it first sends one message to the kickstart queue, and then sends the rest of the messages to the "real" queue. The t

Re: Trigger On First not a good idea for Batch?

2003-09-15 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
Yeah, we have seen this in IMS. But in IMS, the TCODE will be stopped automatically after say 20 or 30 rapid abends. And the app will no nolnger be able to be triggered. In Batch, there is no such automated protection? So I have to code around it? -Original Message- From: Jim Ford [mail

Re: OS/390 5.2 - Stuck Message!

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Ford
CSQUTIL does the same thing. I let it run for 20 minutes, then canceled it. BTW - it isn't a high CPU loop, instead it looks like it's running pretty normally. Except that it isn't normal to run forever. Robert Broderick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: OS/390 5.2 - Stuck Message!

2003-09-15 Thread Richard Brunette
What are you seeing that makes you assume these applications are looping. You say they are not producing output. Is it possible that there simply are no available messages on the queue? Keep in mind that a queue can have uncommitted and expired messages on it, and that these undeliverable messages

Re: Trigger On First not a good idea for Batch?

2003-09-15 Thread Robert Broderick
Are apps were designed to turn off triggering and issue a message to the console which was picked up and turned into a beeper message. NOW...As this was production...and no QUEUE should have a PROCESS associated with it and have triggering turned OFF (our rules) we had a background task that scanne

Re: Trigger On First not a good idea for Batch?

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Ford
Well, neither of your scenarios are specific to batch processing. We've seen several instances where a poorly coded app gets the 'truncated message' error, ends, and is restarted. They've all been on Unix or CICS, tho. And while we've never seen what you describe in your second scenario, it could h

Re: Trigger On First not a good idea for Batch?

2003-09-15 Thread John Scott
Can yo trigger a kind of "bootstrap" job which set the queue to NOTRIGGER and then calls the real job to process the message. If this job abends, you don't get another trigger. If the job ends OK, you can set the trigger back to trigger on first. Would this work for you? Regards John -Origin

Re: OS/390 5.2 - Stuck Message!

2003-09-15 Thread Robert Broderick
How does CSQUTIL react against the queue? COPY QUEUE(APPLICATION.DLQ) DDNAME(FILEOUT) EMPTY QUEUE(APPLICATION.DLQ) bobbee From: Jim Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAI

Re: Layoffs

2003-09-15 Thread Robert Broderick
I would like to do that but unfortunatly this places operational "System Hierarchal Interface Templates" (build the acroynm) normally, only specs out Un-installs of weekends!! From: "Wyatt, T. Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

OS/390 5.2 - Stuck Message!

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Ford
One of our application DLQs seems to have a message "stuck" on it. We ran the product's Dead Letter Handler (CSQUDLQH), and after it processed a few messages it appeared to loop. I tried to use Candle's PQEdit utility to look at the contents of the queue, and it looped too. Then I ran a simple brow

Trigger On First not a good idea for Batch?

2003-09-15 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
MQSeries 5.3 on z/OS 1.4 A batch application is triggered on first. A message lands on the queue, causing the depth to go from 0 to 1. The queue manager generates a trigger message to the init queue. The batch trigger monitor picks up the trigger message, and starts the application. The application

Re: MQSERIES Digest - 11 Sep 2003 to 12 Sep 2003 (#2003-259)

2003-09-15 Thread David Awerbuch
Hello, I am a registered member of mqseries.net, and peruse that site on a reasonably regular basis, for the reasons T. Rob cited: searchable, and a large audience. While the site provides the ability to view all new messages, the relatively slow response time makes it difficult to view these ne

AMI basic question...

2003-09-15 Thread Ruzi R
Queue manager QM1 is on W2K (with WMQ 5.3). The queue manager is not a default queue manager on the machine. I downloaded the MA0F supportpack and installed it (I have never used AMI before) I was able to run the sample program amtsosnd. I now would like to test my own policy and service. So, I

Re: Layoffs

2003-09-15 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob
Hey bobbee - install a weekend for me while you're at it, ok? It'll be nice to get out of the cube and see daylight again. -Original Message- From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Layoffs I have much

Re: Backout Queue name

2003-09-15 Thread Glen Shubert
We use these on some of our applications to move a poison message to a different queue and let the transactions keep processing, instead of getting into a loop. Glen Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Associate Director TSYS - MQSeries Technical Support Robert Broderick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by:

Re: Backout Queue name

2003-09-15 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob
Richard, We've had a long-standing guideline for our developers to use these fields for poison message processing. When our development teams started using JMS, we discovered that JMS looks for these values and honors them automatically. Only problem is that when JMS requeues a message on your b

Re: Layoffs

2003-09-15 Thread Robert Broderick
I have much to sey about this but am afraid it will start another avalanche thread like the PBS EMAIL did. BUT... HAScared you there didn't I??? Everyone have a nice day. 5 days and counting to INSTALL weekend! bee-oh-dubble-bee-dubble-egh From: "Miller, Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Altering queues (MO71 is the way to go)

2003-09-15 Thread Robert Broderick
WOW!! From: "Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Altering queues (MO71 is the way to go) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:36:36 -0400 Check THIS out. Get MO71, and display all the queues you want. Now

Re: Backout Queue name

2003-09-15 Thread Robert Broderick
An answer to your fist question "So the question is - who does use these values?" WMQI bobbee From: Richard Crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backout Queue name Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:23:1

Re: Local language problem on Windows 2000 server

2003-09-15 Thread Blondiaux Denis (DBB)
Jonas, I suppose that you have to set MQS_FORCE_NTLANGID as global environment variable and reboot the server. I remember that IBM tell someting about this, but it's not clear in my memory (we've detect this problem two years ago with v5.2) MQ Explorer is probably not yet ready to use this env

Re: Backout Queue name

2003-09-15 Thread Neil Casey
Hi Richard, the standard backout processing goes like this: You MQGET the message, and look at the backout count (one of the MQMD properties/fields). If it is greater than zero, it means that the message has been processed before, but that unit of work was rolled back (just as you described). At

Re: Local language problem on Windows 2000 server

2003-09-15 Thread Jonas Nyberg
Hi Denis, Thanks for the info. I'll try this. Do you know if this also change the language in the MQ explorer because some of the headings in the MQ explorer also is in German while some is in English. /Jonas -Original Message- From: "Blondiaux Denis (DBB)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL

Re: Local language problem on Windows 2000 server

2003-09-15 Thread Blondiaux Denis (DBB)
Hi Jonas, It's because when MQ retrieve language from regional settings, windows api return language of last logged on user. IBM provide a solution to force the language of log files : Create an environment variable MQS_FORCE_NTLANGID and set it to value 1033 (1033 is for English). I can't fi

Local language problem on Windows 2000 server

2003-09-15 Thread Jonas Nyberg
Hi, We have a small problem with a MQSeries 5.3 installation on a Windows 2000 server. The problem is that when we run MQ on this server some of the information is in English and some in German. I.e the log files is in German. The OS is installed with English and MQ is also installed with English.

Support pac

2003-09-15 Thread Rechsteiner, Guido
Title: Message Hi   We got a requirement from developement, that they need to be able to extract a message from the log ouf our 5.3 MQ, running on OS/390. For 5.2, there was a support pac, 'mo12 MQ log extract'. Does somebody know of a similiar piece of software for 5.3, and, if possible,

Bruce Lin/Dallas/IBM is out of the office.

2003-09-15 Thread Bruce Lin
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Re: Backout Queue name

2003-09-15 Thread John Scott
I think there's something about "hardening backout counts" on OS/390, but in any event the following should be possible for you to do (I have done this on AIX and NT): 1. Your application gets a message under syncpoint. 2. Something terrible happens before you commit and the transaction is rolled

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Re: The equivalent of Windows Event Viewer on HP-UX

2003-09-15 Thread Tibor
Similar to bobbee's environment, we are running scheduled processes (by cron, of course) to select and mail WMQI messages to developers. Plus rotating of log files is needed but I think this is a sysadmin task... Tibor > At one client, we wrote a script that ran out o CRON that parsed the S