ow it).
regards,
Dennis
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Dennis
Sorry to be pedantic BUT
1) if the first transaction "browse" the messag
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Subject: Re: MQ Triggering in CICS
Dennis
Sorry to be pedantic BUT
1) if the first transaction
"browse" the message and decide the user-id, start the second
transaction - how do you make sure that the second transaction is reading the
"exact" message that first transac
d right. So if some one has to
track the "real user" - who has done a particular transaction say
three months back - good luck.
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1).
The design I
ted to hear others experiences.
Cheers
Rao
ps: my apologies if it offends any "beautiful"
solution
developers
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Wait...there's a very important distinction between
those two approaches that is being overlooked. CKTI processes the INITQ while
ABCD processes the tri
en in the worst case scenario, if
the SIL quits prematurely, it would just re-trigger again and eventually find
the stranded message.
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;o)
Kind regards
Jxrgen
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> PS: No hard feelings, I did spend about a month
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> If you run CICS with surrogate user security checking active
> (i.e., SIT parm XUSER=YES), the user ID of the task issuing
> the START command must have READ or higher permission
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Thank you.. the two options help.. I agree that option 1 is better
(better integrity and efficiency). I'm not sure we will change the
IBM-delivered
Title: RE: MQ Triggering in CICS
Thank you.. the two options help.. I agree
that option 1 is better (better integrity and efficiency). I’m not sure
we will change the IBM-delivered process, but I can see the advantage.
Peter Heggie
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Peter
Yes - either you can customise CKTI transaction (the sample
code is provided by the IBM as part of WebSphere MQ) and plug in your own
logic to determine the user-id and issue a
EXEC CICS START TRNID(ABCD)
USERID()
Or alternatively
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Is there a way to dynamically set the userid? As long as we are creating
a
SIL in CICS, is there a way for the SIL to specify the userid when
issuing
the EXEC CICS START ?
==
Yes; specify the U
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Is there a way to dynamically set the userid? As long as we are creating a
SIL in CICS, is there a way for the SIL to specify the userid when issuing
the EXEC CICS START ?
==
Yes; specify the USERID( ) keyword on the E C START command
Title: RE: MQ Triggering in CICS
Is there a way to dynamically set the
userid? As long as we are creating a SIL in CICS, is there a way for the SIL to
specify the userid when issuing the EXEC CICS START ?
Peter Heggie
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'One should check all the angles'
'Fast' Eddie Felson
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Hi John,
take a look here:
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Thanks to everyone for their responses! :)
John Dawson
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Dear John,
EXEC CICS ASSIGN STARTCODE(start-code
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Assuming the program can only be started from an MQ trigger, take a look at
the usecount for the program. If the program can be started from other
means, then you&#
Hi John,
take a look here:
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13836
Just ask the question in one forum please.
Just my $0.02 ;o)
Kind regards
Jxrgen
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Oops,
Should have been "EXEC CICS ASSIGN STARTCODE"
Cheers...
Jim Nuckolls
Jim Nuckolls wrote:
Use the "EXEC CICS STARTCODE" command. If you were triggered, you will
be started-with-data (which is the trigger message in temp storage.
Cheers...
Jim Nuckolls
Dawson, John wrote:
Folks,
In a CICS
Use the "EXEC CICS STARTCODE" command. If you were
triggered, you will be started-with-data (which is the
trigger message in temp storage.
Cheers...
Jim Nuckolls
Dawson, John wrote:
Folks,
In a CICS program, how can I tell that the CICS program was started from a
MQ trigger?
Thanks,
John Dawson
No hard feelings, I did spend about a month tracking down such a
situation with a missing MQTM..
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By using EXEC CICS E
Title: RE: MQ Triggering in CICS
Few more points to add: (I was quick in pressing
the send button):
As a design principle the CICS program always should
issue a EXEC CICS RETRIEVE - 1) as Joe mentioned, to determine
whether this transaction has triggered by CKTI (or one of the equivalents
Title: RE: MQ Triggering in CICS
John
Additional point to what Joe mentioned - yes, the
default you look for is "CKTI" in Rtransid field. But check with your CICS guys
as well - because it is possible one CICS region to have multiple initiators
and/or different transaction codes (f
John,
If your site is using the supplied default trigger monitor, I believe
that it makes the entire trigger message available via the
EXEC CICS START TRANSID() FROM(TRIGGER-MSG) ...
All you have to do to verify this is to perform an
EXEC CICS RETRIEVE INTO(TRIGGER-MSG)
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John,
Perform the following CICS RETRIEVE at the beginning of your program and check the RTRANSID. If it contains the value CKTI, then you know that the trigger monitor started your program.
EXEC CICS RETRIEVE
SET (ADDRESS OF
By using EXEC CICS ENQ/DEQ. If the triggered progam A
is ENQed, you will get a non-zero return code in the
program B that issued the ENQ for Program A. You have
to make sure that you DEQ the triggered program A when
it is finished processing.
Regards,
Ruzi
--- "Dawson, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Title: RE: MQ Triggering in CICS
I'm not a CICS person, but I suspect there are things you can check in
the program. But from an infrastucture point of view, you can check the
queue it reads to see if it's configured to trigger the program.
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From: Da
Folks,
In a CICS program, how can I tell that the CICS program was started from a
MQ trigger?
Thanks,
John Dawson
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