Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-07 Thread Risto Holopainen
Yes, there are lots of interesting things that can be done with frequency shifting. Feedback suppression in a PA system by frequency shifting was suggested by Manfred Schroeder a long time ago. I have occasionally found it to be useful to broaden a mono signal by feeding it through a hilbert transf

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-07 Thread STEFFAN DIEDRICHSEN
A nice thing are the endless phase shifts, if you feed back a frequency shifter. It’s like a Shepard tone. If you have Logic Pro or MainStage, try the RingShifter, it can do such tricks. It has 2x6 Allpass filters for the constant phase shift and a quadrature oscillator with FM and a delay. S

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer for pitch detection?

2017-02-07 Thread STEFFAN DIEDRICHSEN
You can use the phase directly as a sawtooth oscillator. It sounds like a weird tracking oscillator from back in the days, but it’s surprising, how musical the artefacts are. Steffan > On 07.02.2017|KW6, at 17:34, robert bristow-johnson > wrote: > > using this Hilbert, analytic signal thin

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-07 Thread Eric Brombaugh
On 02/07/2017 07:49 AM, Ethan Fenn wrote: So I guess the general idea with these frequency shifters is something like: pre-filter -> generate Hilbert pair -> multiply by e^iwt -> take the real part Am I getting that right? Now that I think about it, another application might be in stereo imagi

Re: [music-dsp] audio dsp career advice

2017-02-07 Thread Martin Klang
This course is great, it will give you a really solid, ground up DSP foundation: https://www.coursera.org/learn/dsp This one is also very good if you don't mind learning (or already know) Python: https://www.coursera.org/learn/audio-signal-processing Martin On 07/02/17 15:10, Roshan Wijetu

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer for pitch detection?

2017-02-07 Thread robert bristow-johnson
� using this Hilbert, analytic signal thing for frequency detection works only for pure sinusoids (that are amplitude-modulated and/or frequency-modulated). �it's really unpredictable (i may be wrong, someone might have math that predicts) what the instantaneous phase coming out of this is fo

[music-dsp] audio dsp career advice

2017-02-07 Thread Roshan Wijetunge
Hi everyone, Firstly, thank you all for the stimulating discussion on this forum. I have a career advice question for which I would value your input. My background is mechanical engineering (my PhD was in modelling and control of engines), I've freelanced for years simulating dynamic systems and

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-07 Thread Ethan Fenn
So I guess the general idea with these frequency shifters is something like: pre-filter -> generate Hilbert pair -> multiply by e^iwt -> take the real part Am I getting that right? Now that I think about it, another application might be in stereo imaging. Start with a mono signal, generate the H

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-07 Thread Theo Verelst
Like with many transforms, I can't help but practically think that it's hard to make a tradeoff between the meaning of the results, such as frequency and amplitude, some rough estimate of the normally obtained accuracy (can you send a CD signal through the DSP stuff, invert back to audio samples

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer for pitch detection?

2017-02-07 Thread gm
can you use this for pitch detection? convert to phase and use it's derivative for instantanous frequency? this and a lowpass on the magnitude as has been discussed should make a combined pitch and amplitude tracker, no? or do you run into the same problem as had been discussed with the magnitu