2011/5/22 Dr Andrew John Hughes
> I really don't see why we want to retain all covers verbatim; I
> thought MusicBrainz was a database, not a cover archive.
Maybe because the MB database could store what IS as well as what users
would want to be? Or because what you want is not necessarily what
On 22 May 2011 15:39, SwissChris ?wrote:
> I don't think this is a good approach. "All Is Full Of Love" ?and "all is
> full of love" both are IMHO "ridiculous". We had this discussion before:
> cover graphics (including Capitalization) are "graphic designers intent",
> not "ar
On 22/05/11 00:57, Nikki wrote:
> Kuno Woudt wrote:
>>> I wouldn't be opposed to simply renaming the relationship from "Official
>>> Homepage" to "Official Website" either; the phrase "homepage" seems to
>>> have fallen out of favour somewhat. (I always think it refers to
>>> whichever page you get
Hello,
On 22/05/11 23:23, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
>> The idea of capturing stuff as it appears on the cover in addition to
>> having standardized titles was one of the goals of NGS. I did not take
>> part in any of these discussions, but it seems most of this was decided
>> when the NGS sche
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes
wrote:
> On 22 May 2011 21:29, Kuno Woudt wrote:
> A major fault I see with it straight away is it only considers
> releases by the artist (and thus I assume is based on the implication
> that the capitalisation is artist intent).
> This cer
On 22 May 2011 21:29, Kuno Woudt wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On 22/05/11 18:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
>> On 22 May 2011 15:39, SwissChris wrote:
>>
>> I agree with this, and I don't remember any discussion about relaxing
>> the title requirements.
>
> The idea of capturing stuff as it appears on
Hello,
On 22/05/11 15:53, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> Before NGS I added some releases where both English and Chinese titles
> appear on the cover. I created one release for each language.
> http://musicbrainz.org/release/0a4a71ed-b7d9-44f9-91dd-5cacec86060e
> and http://musicbrainz.org/release/a78
Hello,
On 22/05/11 18:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> On 22 May 2011 15:39, SwissChris wrote:
>
> I agree with this, and I don't remember any discussion about relaxing
> the title requirements.
The idea of capturing stuff as it appears on the cover in addition to
having standardized titles
On 05/22/2011 11:45 AM, Calvin Walton wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 16:41 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
>> How should we handle recordings that differ from the original only in
>> that some or all of the vocals have been removed? This would be the
>> case for both instrumental versions and for k
Hello,
On 22/05/11 15:28, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Track_and_release_titles
>
> This documentation isn't terribly clear, it doesn't say if the normal
> case is to use the capitalization on the release, only "Follow the
> appropriate Capitalization Standard when
Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> So I ask again, if we are still normalizing the titles, what is the
> purpose of separating tracklists from recordings?
IMO the purpose is to more closely represent the release by allowing
variations in song names to exist, so for example if my edition says
"(album ver
On 22 May 2011 19:44, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 19:07, Aurélien Mino wrote:
>> On 05/22/2011 06:51 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
>>> On 22 May 2011 15:39, SwissChris wrote:
I don't think this is a good approach. "All Is Full Of Love" and "all is
full of lov
Another comment on this one. The order you give for performers of composer,
orchestra/choir, conductor, soloists is the order they have generally been
entered in the extra title information pre NGS. For multiple album artists I
would prefer to see the order changed to reflect the likely relative in
Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> That sounds pretty good, but it wouldn't really be accurate for
> karaoke tracks where the background singers are usually left in and
> only the lead singer is left out. Perhaps a karaoke attribute would
> work, but I'm not sure if it's going to be possible to draw a line
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 16:41 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> How should we handle recordings that differ from the original only in
> that some or all of the vocals have been removed? This would be the
> case for both instrumental versions and for karaoke tracks.
>
> It seems rather silly to have
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 19:07, Aurélien Mino wrote:
> On 05/22/2011 06:51 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
>> On 22 May 2011 15:39, SwissChris wrote:
>>> I don't think this is a good approach. "All Is Full Of Love" and "all is
>>> full of love" both are IMHO "ridiculous". We had this discussion
My preference for language of release title or track title is always either
(a) whichever language is in the biggest or boldest type, or if they are all
the same in prominence, then whichever one appears first.
Brant Gibbard
Toronto, ON
http://bgibbard.ca
> -Original Message-
> From: mus
On 05/21/2011 03:34 PM, symphonick wrote:
> First version of my research page for CSG release names& artists.
>
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/Unofficial_CSG_release_names
>
> Based on discussions here, my interpretation& some guesswork... Tell me
> what you think.
>
> /symphonic
On 05/02/2011 09:27 PM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote:
> I like it.
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Nikki wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone have any objections to the following
>> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Live_Track_Style#Live_Non-Album_Tracks for
>> all live recordings in NGS, except with
On 05/22/2011 06:51 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> On 22 May 2011 15:39, SwissChris wrote:
>> I don't think this is a good approach. "All Is Full Of Love" and "all is
>> full of love" both are IMHO "ridiculous". We had this discussion before:
>> cover graphics (including Capitalization) are "
On 22 May 2011 15:39, SwissChris wrote:
> I don't think this is a good approach. "All Is Full Of Love" and "all is
> full of love" both are IMHO "ridiculous". We had this discussion before:
> cover graphics (including Capitalization) are "graphic designers intent",
> not "artist intent". We don't
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 18:37, Aurélien Mino wrote:
> On 05/22/2011 04:41 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
>> It seems rather silly to have separate works, but it also seems silly
>> that the instrumental versions should get a lyricist relationship if
>> they are linked to the single work. Ideas?
>>
>
On 05/22/2011 04:41 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> It seems rather silly to have separate works, but it also seems silly
> that the instrumental versions should get a lyricist relationship if
> they are linked to the single work. Ideas?
>
What about an "instrumental" attribute to the performance AR
Hmm, so why do we have the separation between tracklist and recordings
at all in NGS? If we want to always use the canonical name, then we
can just have tracks, like pre-NGS. Wasn't part of the idea here to
resolve the tension between "what it says" and "what it is"?
It's clear that there are diff
How should we handle recordings that differ from the original only in
that some or all of the vocals have been removed? This would be the
case for both instrumental versions and for karaoke tracks.
It seems rather silly to have separate works, but it also seems silly
that the instrumental versions
I don't think this is a good approach. "All Is Full Of Love" and "all is
full of love" both are IMHO "ridiculous". We had this discussion before:
cover graphics (including Capitalization) are "graphic designers intent",
not "artist intent". We don't store the size nor he color of the letters, we
d
On 21/05/2011 22:48, Nikki wrote:
>
> Not right now. It's one of the (many) improvements needed for viewing
> and working with relationships.
>
> Nikki
>
> P.S. The style list is probably not the most appropriate list for
> questions about using the site. :P
>
I have all the lists in one folder...
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 15:53, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> Is this an approach that people agree with?
To get an idea of the alternative, have a look at this release group
that I split before NGS:
http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/3c981710-92b6-3de0-90ba-baa655e06630
The official releases he
Before NGS I added some releases where both English and Chinese titles
appear on the cover. I created one release for each language.
http://musicbrainz.org/release/0a4a71ed-b7d9-44f9-91dd-5cacec86060e
and http://musicbrainz.org/release/a78902cf-4ed1-414b-ae34-80076f6142f9
is one such pair.
With NG
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Track_and_release_titles
This documentation isn't terribly clear, it doesn't say if the normal
case is to use the capitalization on the release, only "Follow the
appropriate Capitalization Standard when the track listing on the
release does not distinguish between
2011/5/22 Nikki
> Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:
>
> > Yes, good points.
>
> Does that mean you think we should have a separate mb-classical list then?
>
> I'm guessing from the lack of responses that most people don't care
> whether we have a mb-classical list or not? :P
>
No, I meant the contrary:
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