Re: sign a mail message from command line

2000-01-13 Thread Shao Zhang
Michael Elkins [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 01:52:16PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: > > now, the emails looks the exactly the same as the old style PGP signed > > message, but when I view it in mutt, mutt shows that it is just a normal > > message. Do I need to add additional h

Re: [little OT] message-id

2000-01-13 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 13 Jan 2000: > You can generate an ID for them. But you shouldn't really use message ID to > detect duplicates, although its a common practice. Message IDs are supposed > to be unique, but sometimes aren't. If you want to do it properly, generat

Re: sign a mail message from command line

2000-01-13 Thread Michael Elkins
On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 01:52:16PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: > now, the emails looks the exactly the same as the old style PGP signed > message, but when I view it in mutt, mutt shows that it is just a normal > message. Do I need to add additional header info such as Content-Type?? > > Or the abov

Re: [little OT] message-id

2000-01-13 Thread Randy Goldenberg
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 06:31:37PM -0800, Robert Chien wrote: > 1. can it be guaranteed that _EVERY_ email has a message-id? No. > 2. if not, can you generate a message-id? > > Background: I'd like to write a perl script whose input is a > mail folder, and the script looks at each individual

Re: sign a mail message from command line

2000-01-13 Thread Shao Zhang
Ok, thanks, now the question is a bit off topic. I tried to use a perl script to automate this, here is the code: use PGP::Sign; $PGP::Sign::PGPPATH = "/root/.pgp"; open(DATA, "$path/mutt.header.$$"); @data = ; close DATA; $keyid = "dns\@cia.com.au"; $passphrase = "hello world"; ($signature, $

Re: sign a mail message from command line

2000-01-13 Thread Michael Elkins
On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 12:38:05PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: > Is it possible to send a signed message using mutt and pgp5 from > the command line?? Not in batch mode, but you could do something like mutt -e 'set pgp_autosign' [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get a one time pgp signature

Re: [little OT] message-id

2000-01-13 Thread Charles Cazabon
Robert Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have two general mail questions: > > 1. can it be guaranteed that _EVERY_ email has a message-id? Every message is _supposed_ to have a unique message id by the time it leaves its first SMTP relay -- incoming SMTP traffic is supposed to be scanned for

[little OT] message-id

2000-01-13 Thread Robert Chien
Hi, I have two general mail questions: 1. can it be guaranteed that _EVERY_ email has a message-id? 2. if not, can you generate a message-id? Background: I'd like to write a perl script whose input is a mail folder, and the script looks at each individual email's message-id and do something wit

sign a mail message from command line

2000-01-13 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi, Is it possible to send a signed message using mutt and pgp5 from the command line?? Thanks. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications

Re: Help! Mutt w/Maildir

2000-01-13 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Bill Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti 13. tammikuuta 2000 (to): > Mutt is supposed to automatically detect Maildir-format mailboxes.. It does. :-) > however, > when I fire it up (v.1.0), it just gives me an error of > "/var/spool/mail/mrbill: No such file or directory (errno = 2)". This m

Re: OT(?) Mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Volker Tanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 13 Jan 2000: > each of those folders contains the mails procmail put there, > but the listing looks like that: > > 1 1024 Jan 12 16:25 ../ > 2 5535 Jan 12 16:30 msg.LLZB > 3 4337 Jan 12 16:30 msg.MLZB ... This is caused by pr

Re: just a 'lil problem with Mail-FollowUp-To: I need help with...

2000-01-13 Thread Michael Elkins
The `lists' command specifies the mailing lists to which you are subscribed. Since the purpose of the mail-followup-to field is to affect a group reply, there is no reason to put your own email address in there since you are already a member of the list (which is included in m-f-t). me PGP sign

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Jeffrey L . Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 13 Jan 2000: > If you find procmail too hard to use, you might also look at maildrop. > Another plus is that it works with Maildir mailboxes without patches. The latest version of procmail (out a month or few ago) has native support for maildir

just a 'lil problem with Mail-FollowUp-To: I need help with...

2000-01-13 Thread Mark Mielke
Here are the lines of my ~/.muttrc that might be significant at all: === set alternates="markm|al278|mark\@.*mielke" set nometoo # Should we include ourself in To:/CC: lists? set nomenu_scroll# Should we scroll one line at a time? set allow_8bit # 8-bit ok? or 7-bit + qu

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Matthew Hawkins
On 2000-01-13 11:23:37 -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > Matthew Hawkins [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Actually I think you can use folder-hook to implement a poor-man's > > procmail. Personally, I use procmail :) > > This would work, but only to sort when you first entered a folder. It > wouldn'

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Matthew Hawkins
On 2000-01-13 12:54:07 -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > 2000-01-13-12:50:49 Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS: > > Nice, but some people want to leave mail on the server so that > > they can access it from other places as well. Not only that, take a corporate situation where the mail could be sensitive - you don'

macros with arguments

2000-01-13 Thread Toby Chappell
I have a setup that is a holdover from my MH days whereby I use procmail to sort my mail into different "incoming" folders, and then I invoke an external command to put mail from these inboxes into the mailbox I actually read out of when I am ready for that set of mail (at which point it may get

Help! Mutt w/Maildir

2000-01-13 Thread Bill Bradford
Mutt is supposed to automatically detect Maildir-format mailboxes.. however, when I fire it up (v.1.0), it just gives me an error of "/var/spool/mail/mrbill: No such file or directory (errno = 2)". I've added the following line to my .muttrc: set mbox_type="Maildir" and it still does the same t

Re: Output when nothing changes

2000-01-13 Thread Larry Lipstone
Byrial Jensen wrote... > On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 17:40:38 -0800, Larry Lipstone wrote: > > I find with my mutt-1.0i running on UnixWare 2.1.3, with TERM=dtterm, > > every time the timeout (or whatever) period expires and it checks for > > new mail, the program emits a "make cursor visible", then s

macros with arguments

2000-01-13 Thread Toby Chappell
I have a setup that is a holdover from my MH days whereby I use procmail to sort my mail into different "incoming" folders, and then I invoke an external command to put mail from these inboxes into the mailbox I actually read out of when I am ready for that set of mail (at which point it may get

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 11:23:37AM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > I understand procmail doesn't go with IMAP at this point. But that doesn't > mean it makes sense for Mutt to do it. It's still the MDAs job to deliver > mail. As someone else mentioned, something should be written for IMAP to

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 02:51:17PM -0500, Scott V. McGuire wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 02:29:21PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > > 2000-01-13-14:27:28 Scott V. McGuire: > > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It > > > seems like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail)

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Charles Cazabon
David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott V. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It seems > > like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system > > when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but

Re: OT(?) Mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Nick Jennings
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 05:10:20PM +0100, Volker Tanner wrote: > Hello out there! Hi! > I'm new with mutt and now having some problems. I was using > Outlook up to now (now flames please) and I miss some features, > it's neither mouse nor clicking or colour- just handling > different ma

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Scott V. McGuire
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 01:54:30PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: > Scott V. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It seems > > like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system > > when all I need is a program to l

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Holger Eitzenberger
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 05:15:01PM +0300, Sergei Kolobov wrote: > Mikko H?nninen wrote: > > Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: > > > Argh! I despise procmail, yes its powerfull, and can do alot, but > > > it's severly anoying. > > ... > > > yes procmail is powerfull, bu

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread David DeSimone
Scott V. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It seems > like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system > when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but immediately > send mail to my isp's smtp server. Wh

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Charles Cazabon
Scott V. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It seems > like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system > when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but immediately > send mail to my isp's smtp server. T

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Scott V. McGuire
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 02:29:21PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > 2000-01-13-14:27:28 Scott V. McGuire: > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It > > seems like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single > > user system when all I need is a program to look like sen

Re: Output when nothing changes

2000-01-13 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-13-05:27:26 Byrial Jensen: > I see the problem. The attached patch should avoid the changes of > the visibility of the cursor after timeouts. (I hope it does, but > I cannot see the difference on my screen, so please test). > > The patch is usable on both the stable (1.0) and unstable (1.

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-13-14:27:28 Scott V. McGuire: > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It > seems like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single > user system when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but > immediately send mail to my isp's smtp server. That's eas

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Scott V. McGuire
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:59:31PM -0600, Jeffrey L . Taylor wrote: > I bypass the MTA for incoming mail. I've added > > mda "/usr/local/bin/maildrop -f %F" > > to my .fetchmailrc file for each POP mailbox. I don't know if this > works with procmail. > > HTH, > Jeffrey > Any ideas on not

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jeffrey L . Taylor
I bypass the MTA for incoming mail. I've added mda "/usr/local/bin/maildrop -f %F" to my .fetchmailrc file for each POP mailbox. I don't know if this works with procmail. HTH, Jeffrey Quoting Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2000-01-13-07:18:21 Matthew Hawkins: > > There seems to be a

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-13-12:50:49 Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS: > Nice, but some people want to leave mail on the server so that > they can access it from other places as well. Sure. Are those same people the same ones who are also asking for filtering into different folders, and who cannot run procmail on their serve

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Try running procmail on a mail server you don't have an account on > > and your mailbox isn't actually physically owned by you anyway :) > > I have email from a _lot_ of places coming in to my mail server. > > Then I have fetchmail pull it down from there.

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jeremy Blosser
Matthew Hawkins [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On 2000-01-12 16:08:06 -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific > > > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. can > > > > Mutt doesn't do this. Setup so

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-13-07:18:21 Matthew Hawkins: > There seems to be a lot of detractors to the requested > functionality, however there's at least one valid case that mutt > can be in where the functionality is quite useful. This is when > the spoolfile is an IMAP INBOX folder. That folder could get mail >

OT(?) Mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Volker Tanner
Hello out there! I'm new with mutt and now having some problems. I was using Outlook up to now (now flames please) and I miss some features, it's neither mouse nor clicking or colour- just handling different mailboxes. I set up some procmail rules like :0 * ^TOmutt-user mutt-user and that puts

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jeffrey L . Taylor
If you find procmail too hard to use, you might also look at maildrop. Another plus is that it works with Maildir mailboxes without patches. The filtering rules are quite readable. HTH, Jeffrey

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Sergei Kolobov
Mikko Hänninen wrote: > Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: > > Argh! I despise procmail, yes its powerfull, and can do alot, but > > it's severly anoying. > ... > > yes procmail is powerfull, but its far too much of a > > hassle for just setting up a simple filter, >

[off topic] Subscribe to comics mailing list...

2000-01-13 Thread Jean-Sebastien Morisset
This is off topic, sorta. :-) I created a *mutt compatible* mailing list which sends out the Dilbert, User Friendly and GPF comics every morning. The message is in text with an html attachment. You'll need your mailcap/mime.types set to handle html files (probably lynx) and jpg/gif files (prob

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread David T-G
Mikko, et al -- ...and then Mikko Hänninen said... % Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: % > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific % > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. % % Mutt doesn't do this, it'

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread David T-G
Nick -- ...and then Nick Jennings said... % % there a reason why this is something that is continuously not a feature in % UNIX mail clients? yes procmail is powerfull, but its far too much of a Simple: in the UNIX world, little tools that do a few things, or just one thing, *very*well* get put

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Matthew Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 13 Jan 2000: > There seems to be a lot of detractors to the requested functionality, > however there's at least one valid case that mutt can be in where the > functionality is quite useful. This is when the spoolfile is an IMAP > INBOX folder. To

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Matthew Hawkins
On 2000-01-12 16:08:06 -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific > > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. can > > Mutt doesn't do this. Setup something like procmail. Actually I think you can use

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jorge Godoy
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 03:28:30PM -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:56:44PM -0800, Shawn D. McPeek wrote: > > > > It's not a feature because it's not the job of a mail client to deliver > > mail. There are a lot of things mail clients don't do - delivering mail > > is one

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jorge Godoy
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:56:44PM -0800, Shawn D. McPeek wrote: > > :> > :> newmail-hook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) +mutt-users-mail > > What's so hard about: > > :0: > * ^Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > mutt-users-mail > > I really don't think that was too hard. And if he still thinks it's too hard,

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Nick Jennings schrieb: >Since I started using Mutt, I stopped developing this mail >client, but now I might start again, or maybe add this feature to mutt, is >there a reason why this is something that is continuously not a feature in >UNIX mail clients? yes procmail is powerfull, but its far too

Complex hooks

2000-01-13 Thread Vsevolod Volkov
Hi! Is it possible to setup complex hooks? For example, I want send-hook working only in one mailbox. I've tried such settings: folder-hook . my_hdr From: addr1 folder-hook mbox2 my_hdr From: addr2 send-hook domain.org my_hdr From: addr3 Or: folder-hook . my_hdr From: addr1 folder-hook mbox2 s

Re: Output when nothing changes

2000-01-13 Thread Byrial Jensen
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 17:40:38 -0800, Larry Lipstone wrote: > I find with my mutt-1.0i running on UnixWare 2.1.3, with TERM=dtterm, > every time the timeout (or whatever) period expires and it checks for > new mail, the program emits a "make cursor visible", then stat()'s the > mail drop, then s