Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Chris Green
Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the maildir directory name? Is there some way I can get to use real directories to represent my hierarchy of mail? I manually rearrange my mail sometimes and to deal with

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > maildir directory name? > > Is there some way I can get to use real directories to represent my > hie

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the maildir directory name? Starting in Mutt 1.12, there is a new function in the browser menu. This can

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 22Sep2020 17:46, Chris Green wrote: >Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail >'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the >maildir directory name? Are you talking about browsing a Maildir hierarchy from mutt, or just the physical structure on disc

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread raf
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > > maildir directory name? > > >

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On 2020-09-22 13:30, Chris Green wrote: Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the maildir directory name? Is there some way I can get to use real directories to represent my hierarchy of mail? Originally

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 09:44:22AM +1000, raf wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > > 'folders' are simply represented by

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:40:09PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2020-09-22 13:30, Chris Green wrote: > > > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > > > maildir directory name? > > > > > > Is t

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 08:20:11AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 22Sep2020 17:46, Chris Green wrote: > >Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > >'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > >maildir directory name? > > Are you talking about br

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 23Sep2020 09:11, Chris Green wrote: >> I don't browse from within mutt (but see Kevin's reply) but I do have >> a >> directory hierarchy. Admittedly it is shallow and does not have Maildirs >> inside Maildirs, but my own folders are like this: >> >> ~/mail/foldername # top level

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On 2020-09-23 04:07, Chris Green wrote: I think I might try that second idea, I can run mb2md (as you say) 2354 times and get the layout I want. Then I can try mutt on it and see if it's practical. Does mb2md convert message attributes? (Message has been read, message has been replied to, e

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 23Sep2020 14:58, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: >On 2020-09-23 04:07, Chris Green wrote: > >>I think I might try that second idea, I can run mb2md (as you say) >>2354 times and get the layout I want. Then I can try mutt on it and >>see if it's practical. > > >Does mb2md convert message attributes? (Me

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > maildir directory name? I'm not sure why you think Mutt is doing this... I have my maildir folders s

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-24 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:11:24PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > > maildir directory name? > > I'm

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-25 Thread Chris Green
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 09:02:29AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:11:24PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > > 'folders' are simply represente

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 01:33:24PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Just to report success. It all appears to be working as I want with > 'real' directories for my mail hierarchy. Glad to hear it. > It was basically quite simple to do, mostly using 'find', first to > create a copy of my old mbox dire

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 01:33:24PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > Just to report success. It all appears to be working as I want with > > 'real' directories for my mail hierarchy. > > Glad to hear it. > > > It was basically quite sim

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread Nemo Thorx
Quoting Chris Green from 29 Sep (a Tuesday in 2020) at 0813 hours... > It's all driven from one text file so that when I subscribe to a new > mailing list all I have to do is add an entry to that file. No > changing of procmail rules, no additions to muttrc. I have attached > the filter file to

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 29Sep2020 08:13, Chris Green wrote: >On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: >> I confess to some curiosity here... What are you doing in your >> home-grown MDA, that you could not already do with procmail, which (if >> you're on a Linux system at least) your mail system

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread raf
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:38:06AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 29Sep2020 08:13, Chris Green wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > >> I confess to some curiosity here... What are you doing in your > >> home-grown MDA, that you could not already do with

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 30Sep2020 12:44, raf wrote: >On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:38:06AM +1000, Cameron Simpson >wrote: >> I dropped procmail years ago too, [...] > >I didn't drop procmail. I wrote a program to >generate procmail code from a set of prettier >config files. :-) Oh, so did I. Look up cats2procmailrc, w

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 09:04:11AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 09:44:22AM +1000, raf wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: Is there some way I can get to use real directori

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:13:14AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: >> I confess to some curiosity here... What are you doing in your >> home-grown MDA, that you could not already do with procmail, which >> (if you're on a Linux system at le

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:03:41PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:13:14AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > >> I confess to some curiosity here... What are you doing in your > >> home-grown MDA, that you could not al

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chris Green [09-30-20 09:18]: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:03:41PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:13:14AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > >> I confess to some curiosity here... What are you doing in your >

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:03:41PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:13:14AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: I confess to some curiosity here... What

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:20:50PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > I've attached them here anyway. > > Thanks :) Would you be willing to mention a license? > > Without a license, your scripts are technically non-free software, i.e. >

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:20:50PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:03:41PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:13:14AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500,

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:50:19PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:20:50PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: 2. Having done that, I guess you could (subject to Kevin McCarthy's approval - he's the Mutt maintainer and I can't speak for him) perhaps edit https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 30Sep2020 15:20, Sam Kuper wrote: >On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >> Absolutely no problem, is there a place to put them on mutt.org? [..] >> I keep the code in mercurial [..] > >Best bet would probably be to: > >1. Upload the files to a code hosting repository: gi

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-10-01 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:39:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:20:50PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >>> I've attached them here anyway. >> >> Thanks :) Would you be willing to mention a license? [..] > > OK, I'v