On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 05:49:45PM -0600, Travis H. wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:29:35PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> > > I work in a startup of 10 people. I'm the only reason {... for
> > > IMAP, ssh, linux.}
> > > By most in our company, the effort to keep this going is
> > > considered a waste
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 05:38:15PM -0600, Travis H. wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:34:19PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> > > Is there still considerable danger in dumping html via w3m or
> > > some other html to text converter?
>
> Well, theoretically, any time you operate on data provided by someon
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On Friday, February 9 at 12:04 AM, quoth Gary Johnson:
> On 2007-02-08, Kyle Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 8 at 11:40 PM, quoth Jeremy Blosser:
Thanks very much. Hoping that it can sensibly dump HTML colors as
>>>
On 2007-02-08, Kyle Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 8 at 11:40 PM, quoth Jeremy Blosser:
> >> Thanks very much. Hoping that it can sensibly dump HTML colors as
> >> ascii as well? I'll look into it.
> >
> > Kyle mentioned the newer versions have an option for this, a
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On Thursday, February 8 at 11:40 PM, quoth Jeremy Blosser:
>> Thanks very much. Hoping that it can sensibly dump HTML colors as
>> ascii as well? I'll look into it.
>
> Kyle mentioned the newer versions have an option for this, and I looked far
>
On Feb 08, Marc Vaillant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 05:53:39PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> > Anyway, to the original question: the elinks and links family of text
> > browsers can render HTML colors as ascii. If you use those as your HTML
> > viewers you can get the colo
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:29:35PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> > I work in a startup of 10 people. I'm the only reason {... for
> > IMAP, ssh, linux.}
> > By most in our company, the effort to keep this going is
> > considered a waste of time.
I'd jump ship, honestly. I really don't like the Windows e
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:34:19PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> > Is there still considerable danger in dumping html via w3m or
> > some other html to text converter?
Well, theoretically, any time you operate on data provided by someone
who may not be trustworthy, you face a risk. The magnitude of the
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:34:19PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> =- Marc Vaillant wrote on Thu 8.Feb'07 at 11:58:48 -0500 -=
>
> > Is there still considerable danger in dumping html via w3m or
> > some other html to text converter?
>
> No, see wiki FAQ how to make it work.
Ok thanks. I do it now, jus
=- Marc Vaillant wrote on Thu 8.Feb'07 at 11:52:23 -0500 -=
> > I'm sorry, explain, I don't see how it works against you when
> > 2 sides agree on a common course that helps both by making
> > things simpler.
> >
> > > I'm not afraid to ask, I'm just wise enough to know that its
> > > futile, or
=- Marc Vaillant wrote on Thu 8.Feb'07 at 11:58:48 -0500 -=
> Is there still considerable danger in dumping html via w3m or
> some other html to text converter?
No, see wiki FAQ how to make it work.
> Also, we correspond with several DoD organizations on a weekly
> basis. We've never had an ema
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 05:53:39PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> Anyway, to the original question: the elinks and links family of text
> browsers can render HTML colors as ascii. If you use those as your HTML
> viewers you can get the colors and follow the quoting.
Thanks very much. Hoping that
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:04:23PM -0600, Travis H. wrote:
> I would say your best angle is a security angle. See if you can get
> someone with the authority to recognize that reading your email with a
> web browser and/or sending HTML poses a threat to the security of the
> company and the users
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 05:02:32PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> {...}
> I'm sorry, explain, I don't see how it works against you when 2 sides
> agree on a common course that helps both by making things simpler.
>
> > I'm not afraid to ask, I'm just wise enough to know that its
> > futile, or worse, det
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:31:03PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> ... one part being the defensive things listed by Travis, but you
> also shouldn't forget that some "outsiders" rate html-ized mails
> as spammy, so at least the score increases or in the worst case
> it's outright blocked unless white-liste
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On Monday, February 5 at 05:53 PM, quoth Jeremy Blosser:
> Anyway, to the original question: the elinks and links family of
> text browsers can render HTML colors as ascii. If you use those as
> your HTML viewers you can get the colors and follow t
On Feb 01, William Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a vendor who occasionally sends me replies quoted this way.
> What's ironic is that he normally top-posts, and I suspect he's doing it
> this way because *I* normally quote inline in response to him.
I'm sure this happens here; they are
=- Travis H. wrote on Thu 1.Feb'07 at 23:04:23 -0600 -=
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 03:59:51PM -0500, Marc Vaillant wrote:
> > This just isn't realistic. What sort of view of mutt do you
> > think an outlook user (potential mutt user) is going to get if
> > I tell them "Hey check out this great tex
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:52:15PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:05:27PM -0600, David Champion wrote:
> > Few people want to modify their ovens, even if oven engineers have
> > suggestions for how to do it.
> And there is probably a mumble-oven-user list where people
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:52:15PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> And there is probably a mumble-oven-user list where people are
> discussing things like: "...with this mod, think of the power they would
> save ... but they just don't listen."
Totally OT, but perhaps amusing true story.
I had a
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:05:27PM -0600, David Champion wrote:
> Have you worked in direct user support? For each professional or
> enthusiast, there are hundreds who just use computers as a tool, the way
> you would use a hammer or a gas oven. Few people want to modify their
> ovens, even if ov
=- Marc Vaillant wrote on Thu 1.Feb'07 at 15:59:51 -0500 -=
> "{...} ... only thing is, you know that feature that everyone in
> the office loves to use with their clients, well you have to
> tell them not to use it."
How do you know they "love it"?
There is active love/ choice and passive (mean
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 03:59:51PM -0500, Marc Vaillant wrote:
> This just isn't realistic. What sort of view of mutt do you think an
> outlook user (potential mutt user) is going to get if I tell them "Hey
> check out this great text based MUA that I have... only thing is, you
> know that featur
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 07:21:07PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> =- David Champion wrote on Thu 1.Feb'07 at 10:25:13 -0600 -=
>
> > > i.e. the way of aiding is not stored in the data
> > > itself but left up to the reader (the original www idea).
> > > A tool can perform its beefing-up well enough on t
=- David Champion wrote on Thu 1.Feb'07 at 13:05:27 -0600 -=
> Has no one ever asked you how you can stand not reading e-mail
> in full blazing GUI glory?
(I'm not sure they'd call it "blazing glory" in the first place.
It's often not that they like it but rather have no choice or just
stick wit
I have a vendor who occasionally sends me replies quoted this way.
What's ironic is that he normally top-posts, and I suspect he's doing it
this way because *I* normally quote inline in response to him.
Even better, he sometimes writes his bits in all caps ON THE SAME LINE
as parts of my quoted re
There are many factors in how people behave. Interoperability of
personal preference ranks low for most people. Has no one ever asked
you how you can stand not reading e-mail in full blazing GUI glory?
I said this is a matter for developers, not for users, because
developers (and administrators
=- David Champion wrote on Thu 1.Feb'07 at 10:25:13 -0600 -=
> > i.e. the way of aiding is not stored in the data
> > itself but left up to the reader (the original www idea).
> > A tool can perform its beefing-up well enough on this simple/
> > raw data, too, as mutt and other MUAs show.
>
> I
* On 2007.02.01, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
* "Rado S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Are you serious about option 1?
>
> Why not?
>
> Generally it's good to have visual aids.
> However, the implementation varies, and I prefer a simple data
> format that works even without a dedicated visua
=- Marc Vaillant wrote on Wed 31.Jan'07 at 11:13:25 -0500 -=
> > _You_ have several options:
> > 1) educate your eMail partners to quote mutt-friendly (txt-only).
> > 2) use autoview with a graphical browser => wiki FAQ.
> > 3) use autoview with a script that converts such (*censored*)
> > eMail t
Marc Vaillant wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:31:38PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
[...]
>> _You_ have several options:
>> 1) educate your eMail partners to quote mutt-friendly (txt-only).
[...]
> Are you serious about option 1?
I would be. Even outlook (not sure about outlook express) can be told
to
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:31:38PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
> =- Marc Vaillant wrote on Tue 30.Jan'07 at 12:59:46 -0500 -=
>
> > > * On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 Marc Vaillant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> > > > I'm wondering how people handle messages coming from outlook
> > > > users that quote the messag
* Michael Tatge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-30-07 12:51]:
[...]
> Now that is - just plain awful. html *and* no proper quoting?
> I guess the only thing to do would be to send them their stuff back text
> dumped, fully quoted. Let them figure out what is quoted and what not. ;)
html -> /dev/null
=- Marc Vaillant wrote on Tue 30.Jan'07 at 12:59:46 -0500 -=
> > * On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 Marc Vaillant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> > > I'm wondering how people handle messages coming from outlook
> > > users that quote the message they're replying to (or their
> > > replies) in color instead of
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:55:46PM +0100, Michael Tatge wrote:
> * On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 Marc Vaillant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> > I'm wondering how people handle messages coming from outlook users that
> > quote the message they're replying to (or their replies) in color
> > instead of the us
* On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 Gary Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> On 2007-01-30, Michael Tatge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 Marc Vaillant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> > > I'm wondering how people handle messages coming from outlook users that
> > > quote the message th
On 2007-01-30, Michael Tatge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 Marc Vaillant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> > I'm wondering how people handle messages coming from outlook users that
> > quote the message they're replying to (or their replies) in color
> > instead of the usual ang
* On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 Marc Vaillant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> I'm wondering how people handle messages coming from outlook users that
> quote the message they're replying to (or their replies) in color
> instead of the usual angle indenting (> )?
Outlook uses a indent string. Default '> '.
I'm wondering how people handle messages coming from outlook users that
quote the message they're replying to (or their replies) in color
instead of the usual angle indenting (> )?
Thanks,
Marc
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