Re: PHP bias (Way OT)

2002-11-10 Thread Jan Steinman
>From: Van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I _realize_ Perl is fast, and powerful... But, it's >ugly... > >In a perfect world, everyone would use >C/C++... Boy, talk about trolling! My vote for the most "beautiful" language is Smalltalk, followed by Objective C. Having experienced the "real thing" in OO

RE: PHP bias (Way OT) -- and ASP on UNIX

2002-11-10 Thread Haapanen, Tom
e for scripting, whether for web pages or for non-web utilities. Tom Haapanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Van [mailto:vanboers@;dedserius.com] Sent: Sunday 10 November 2002 16:01 To: MySQL Subject: Re: PHP bias (Way OT) Alan: ASP only runs on Wi

RE: PHP bias (Way OT)

2002-11-10 Thread Dan Rossi
ever heard of chilliasp ? its been cross platform portable , its hooked in via java -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vanboers@;why.dedserius.com]On Behalf Of Van Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:01 AM To: MySQL Subject: Re: PHP bias (Way OT) Alan: ASP only runs on

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-10 Thread Phil Straw
My experience of MySQL is very recent. I only started using it a few weeks ago. I got great support from the list (Thanks !) when I had an initial problem specific to MySQL VARCHARand it's not just Perl and PHP that work. After I had my database created in the command line I downloaded the JDBC

RE: PHP bias (Way OT)

2002-11-10 Thread Dan Rossi
asp can do allot of client side possibly security risky stuff where php cant -Original Message- From: Alan McDonald [mailto:alan@;meta.com.au] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul DuBois Cc: MySQL Subject: RE: PHP bias (Way OT) I agree mostly,... but why

Re: PHP bias (Way OT)

2002-11-10 Thread Van
Alan: ASP only runs on Windows. Windows2000 and beyond mandate the Supplemental EULA (as of SP3 on Win2K) that grants M$ blanket authority to modify your machine in any way M$ sees fit. For this reason (because you no longer have full control over your machine) you can't do the following: C3 Sec

RE: PHP bias (Way OT)

2002-11-10 Thread Alan McDonald
I agree mostly,... but why is ASP worthless? Alan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vanboers@;why.dedserius.com]On > Behalf Of Van > Sent: Monday, 11 November 2002 6:21 > To: Paul DuBois > Cc: MySQL > Subject: Re: PHP bias (Way OT) > > &

Re: PHP bias (Way OT)

2002-11-10 Thread Van
Paul: Not sure why my post didn't cc to the list, originally. I think I picked up on your tone, but the one thing I had intended to add was the dynamic that the more I do this stuff, the more I find myself just having to "get over" some of the more ugly and cludged implementations due to limitati

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-10 Thread Octavian Rasnita
DuBois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MySQL Mailinglist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:04 AM Subject: Re: PHP bias > > > I am bothers me. >> > It bothers me that that the MySQL people have a bias towards PH

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-10 Thread Van
That was a really silly message to send. I hope that in 10 years when you've experienced some stuff, you look upon this message and realize how silly it was and learn not to send such silly stuff. Try not to be so silly in a technical forum. The people in this list do some technically useful thi

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread R. Hannes Niedner
On 11/9/02 11:04 PM, "Paul DuBois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. It's really a drag that you can't use databases very well from > within Perl very easily. I wish that someone would invent a database > inferface for Perl. And it'd be really cool if they'd do it in such > a way that the g

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread R. Hannes Niedner
On 11/9/02 11:04 PM, "Paul DuBois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. It's really a drag that you can't use databases very well from > within Perl very easily. I wish that someone would invent a database > inferface for Perl. And it'd be really cool if they'd do it in such > a way that the g

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread Paul DuBois
> > I am bothers me. > It bothers me that that the MySQL people have a bias towards PHP. > PHP is an inferior language. Deal with perl instead. > > > Robert Ouch.Death to all fanatics!!! Do you have any question or are you just boiling? It's just that M

Re: PHP bias Stop feeding the troll

2002-11-09 Thread R. Hannes Niedner
On 11/9/02 11:31 PM, "Georg Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like you're not very familar with the spirit of Open Source: > > Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby etc. are very excellent languages. They all have > benefits and of course some disadvantages. But this competition helps each > one to i

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread Georg Richter
On Sunday 10 November 2002 14:12, Robert Macwange wrote: > PHP is an inferior language. Deal with perl instead. Looks like you're not very familar with the spirit of Open Source: Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby etc. are very excellent languages. They all have benefits and of course some disadvantages.

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:49:37AM +, andy thomas wrote: > > perl doesn't have anything like as much database support, which is > why PHP has become popular in the web community. Oh, let's not go down this road. Perl and PHP both have excellent database support. And they're both incredibly p

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread andy thomas
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, R. Hannes Niedner wrote: > On 11/10/02 5:12 AM, "Robert Macwange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am bothers me. > > It bothers me that that the MySQL people have a bias towards PHP. > > PHP is an inferior language. Deal with perl instead. > > > > ...

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:12:40AM -0800, Robert Macwange wrote: > > It bothers me that that the MySQL people have a bias towards PHP. They don't. -- Jeremy D. Zawodny | Perl, Web, MySQL, Linux Magazine, Yahoo! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://jeremy.zawodny.com/ MySQL 3.23.51: up 95 days, p

RE: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread John Meyer
I'd suggest that he's just trolling. -Original Message- From: R. Hannes Niedner [mailto:hannes.niedner@;gmx.net] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:27 PM To: MySQL Mailinglist Subject: Re: PHP bias On 11/10/02 5:12 AM, "Robert Macwange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: PHP bias

2002-11-09 Thread R. Hannes Niedner
On 11/10/02 5:12 AM, "Robert Macwange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am bothers me. > It bothers me that that the MySQL people have a bias towards PHP. > PHP is an inferior language. Deal with perl instead. > > > Robert Ouch.Death to all fanatics!!! Do you have