RE: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-11-02 Thread David Wallace
I got a fanless 5200 8x AGP w/256 MEG RAM (Pine MFG) at Sam's Club for $58.00 USD. The TV out to a 36 Sony Vega is wonderful. David On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 18:12 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesse wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: Dave wrote: On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-10-31 Thread mythtv-users
Jesse wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: Dave wrote: On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Well just to add my 2p, I've had a PVR-350 running for about a year with TV/X out, I've just swapped to

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-10-31 Thread Michael T. Dean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MX440 (5200 or similar should be better) Advantages: ... Disadvantages: Picture quality - supposedly worse[0] ... FWIW IMHO unless you want a silent low powered machine or don't have an AGP slot I'd say save the pennies (or cents) and just get a cheap nvidia card.

RE: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-10-31 Thread Joe Votour
Where the PVR-350 shines for me that it recognizes whether the content is interlaces or not, and handles it appropriately (so say the log messages on the console). This is really nice because then I don't have to use Bob to deinterlace, which makes the OSD flicker.. (The other deinterlacing

RE: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-10-31 Thread Bryan Halter
I too noticed the problem with Bob and flickering OSD.  I was plesently surprised when after switching to the MediaCenter theme for the OSD that flickering went away.  :).  Its a lot nicer tooking than the blue box in the corner IMO. On Oct 31, 2005 07:49 PM, Joe Votour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-10-24 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Jesse Guardiani wrote: Dave wrote: On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Advantages / Disadvantages, I have a 350 and have struggled on and off now for about 5 months to get it to work (Got

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-25 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 21:49, Dave wrote: The problem is that the quality of TV encoders used on Nvidia designs (and clones) various greatly. Some encoders are external to the Nvidia GPU (Phillips and others) some are integrated into the Nvidia GPU. For me, the output of the

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-25 Thread Dave
Michael T. Dean wrote: 3.) Took the time to *learn* how to properly configure their NVIDIA cards for TV out I think think there are quite a few us who would love any tips on how to properly configure our NVIDIA cards. Some mentioned differences between manufacturers - for the record, I have

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-25 Thread Phill Edwards
3.) Took the time to *learn* how to properly configure their NVIDIA cards for TV out I think think there are quite a few us who would love any tips on how to properly configure our NVIDIA cards. Some mentioned differences between manufacturers - for the record, I have an AOpen

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-25 Thread Joe Votour
The early revision XBox units have a Conexant chip (I think a 2587x) chip, which is an excellent chip for TV-out solutions. I had the chance to work briefly with one in one of the products that the company I work for makes. The quality is so good, that I considered inquiring about forking out

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-24 Thread Endaf Jones
Michael T. Dean wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? My FX5200 is terrible compared to my PVR 350. No contest. Maybe these people either: 1.) Have terrible

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-24 Thread Dave
The problem is that the quality of TV encoders used on Nvidia designs (and clones) various greatly. Some encoders are external to the Nvidia GPU (Phillips and others) some are integrated into the Nvidia GPU. For me, the output of the signal is washed out. No adjustment of XV controls

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-24 Thread Erik Pettersen
I don't have any concrete facts to dispute it, but i'm not sure if that assumption is an absolute. What I know annecdotally is that budget and cheaper manufacturer cards tend to cheat or skimp on the TV out section/components as a way to cut corners/costs. Example: back in the day... it seemed

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Justin Hornsby
Mark Gardner wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Advantages / Disadvantages, I have a 350 and have struggled on and off now for about 5 months to get it to work (Got it to work once but then the HD died). Mostly interested in quality of

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Louie Ilievski
On Monday 22 August 2005 10:24 pm, Mark Gardner wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Advantages / Disadvantages, I have a 350 and have struggled on and off now for about 5 months to get it to work (Got it to work once but then the HD

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Brian Stults
Mark Gardner wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Advantages / Disadvantages, I have a 350 and have struggled on and off now for about 5 months to get it to work (Got it to work once but then the HD died). Mostly interested in quality

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread David Watkins
About a month after that, John Harvey released his XV driver for the 350's decoder, so I decided to give it a try. Well, now I'm right back where I started - using the 350's TV-out. TV playback is still far superior to the MX440 and FX5200. It's flawless. Perhaps even better quality than

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Erik Pettersen
Forgive the slight threadjack, but... Does the PVR350 suffer the same EOF lockups in mythtv/linux that happen in the windows world? To the original poster: In my opinion; the pvr350 and it's hardware decoder/svideo output looks better than most software decoding / video card's svideo out ( out

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread David
I think one of the main PVR350 stability issues is the chipset. It doesn't get on with VIA chipsets IIRC. Cerainly I've had zero issues since I bought a Dell SC420 (with Intel chipset) and used that as my backend. David Erik Pettersen wrote: Forgive the slight threadjack, but... Does the

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Erik Pettersen
Well, that might be so... and that's not promising to me considering I wanted to keep the pvr350 in the via epia m10k mini-itx box. Again on the windows side of things (forgive me, I have sinned), the community tried to isolate the issue. At first it was intel chipsets that it didn't work on,

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Brian Stults
David Watkins wrote: About a month after that, John Harvey released his XV driver for the 350's decoder, so I decided to give it a try. Well, now I'm right back where I started - using the 350's TV-out. TV playback is still far superior to the MX440 and FX5200. It's flawless. Perhaps even

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Donavan Stanley
On 8/23/05, todd Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would expect the tv out quality (s-video) to be approx. the same However the pvr-350 has hardware to encode the signal back to whatever tv standard you have defined for it. The NV card uses software for this process, unless you have a

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Dave
On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Advantages / Disadvantages, I have a 350 and have struggled on and off now for about 5 months to get it to work (Got it to work once but then the HD died).

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Dave wrote: On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Advantages / Disadvantages, I have a 350 and have struggled on and off now for about 5 months to get it to work (Got it to work once but then

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Dr. C Mythology
Don't you have wiggles along the very edge of the screen? On my TV, the sides are wavy or suck inward when the screen is mostly white. On 8/23/05, Louie Ilievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must say that watching movies and such is excellent with the NVidia. The progressive content looks

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Calvin Harrigan
Dr. C Mythology wrote: Don't you have wiggles along the very edge of the screen? On my TV, the sides are wavy or suck inward when the screen is mostly white. On 8/23/05, Louie Ilievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must say that watching movies and such is excellent with the NVidia. The

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread mrwester
My FX5200 is terrible compared to my PVR 350. No contest. Maybe these people either: 1.) Have terrible TVs 2.) Use the DVI output on the FX5200? One more data point: I'm using the TV-out on my PVR-350 instead of the DVI on my FX5200. No matter what I've done with the nvidia drivers, I

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Dr. C Mythology
Bit it doesn't happen when watching regular TV and DVDs (well, maybe very very little once in a while). And I've tested on another TV which is only a year old, and the problem still occurs. However, it looks better when decreasing the brightness. On 8/23/05, Calvin Harrigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Michael T. Dean
Jesse Guardiani wrote: On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? My FX5200 is terrible compared to my PVR 350. No contest. Maybe these people either: 1.) Have terrible TVs 2.) Use the DVI

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Erik Pettersen
Is now a good time to ask for links/resources to: a. properly config/tweak fx5200 TV output b. install/update to these latest/greatest PVR350 improvements (for those of use who aren't hip to the lingo or need some hand holding ;) ) E. -- http://www.byopvr.com On 8/23/05, Michael T. Dean

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Claude Gélinas agr.
Le mardi 23 août 2005 à 08:25 -0400, Brian Stults a écrit : Mark Gardner wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Advantages / Disadvantages, I have a 350 and have struggled on and off now for about 5 months to get it to work (Got it

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Louie Ilievski
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 01:23 pm, Dr. C Mythology wrote: Don't you have wiggles along the very edge of the screen? On my TV, the sides are wavy or suck inward when the screen is mostly white. Maybe you don't have enough overscan or something. My MythTV box is hooked up to my roommate's

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Louie Ilievski
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 05:32 pm, Michael T. Dean wrote:  On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets?  My FX5200 is terrible compared to my PVR 350. No contest. Maybe these  people either:

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-23 Thread Brian Stults
Michael T. Dean wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? My FX5200 is terrible compared to my PVR 350. No contest. Maybe these people either: 1.) Have terrible

[mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-22 Thread Mark Gardner
Can anyone comment on the quality comparison between the two abovementioned chipsets? Advantages / Disadvantages, I have a 350 and have struggled on and off now for about 5 months to get it to work (Got it to work once but then the HD died). Mostly interested in quality of TV playback. Thanks --

Re: [mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

2005-08-22 Thread todd Bailey
I would expect the tv out quality (s-video) to be approx. the same However the pvr-350 has hardware to encode the signal back to whatever tv standard you have defined for it. The NV card uses software for this process, unless you have a on-board hardware encoder for tv out. On Mon, 2005-08-22