Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-24 Thread Steve Adeff
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 01:52, Michael T. Dean wrote: On 01/23/2006 11:01 PM, Mario Limonciello wrote: A quick question if I may. Am I right in thinking that if I buy a new sound-card with 6 analogue channels on the output it will drive my 5.1 amp (it has 6 channel input) for surround

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-24 Thread Mario Limonciello
and have you tried setting the audio output device to ALSA? I don't believe just putting ALSA in the box would do much. The myth code goes through and removes the first 5 characters of the string in the box if it is ALSA:. It takes the rest and calls snd_pcm_open for that hardware device.

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-24 Thread Steve Adeff
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 10:45, Mario Limonciello wrote: and have you tried setting the audio output device to ALSA? I don't believe just putting ALSA in the box would do much. The myth code goes through and removes the first 5 characters of the string in the box if it is ALSA:. It takes

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-24 Thread Mario Limonciello
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 10:58 -0500, Steve Adeff wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 10:45, Mario Limonciello wrote: and have you tried setting the audio output device to ALSA? I don't believe just putting ALSA in the box would do much. The myth code goes through and removes the first 5

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-24 Thread Ben Suffolk
A quick question if I may. Am I right in thinking that if I buy a new sound-card with 6 analogue channels on the output it will drive my 5.1 amp (it has 6 channel input) for surround sound. Yes (assuming you mean by 6-channel input that you have at least 6 RCA connectors or 3 headphone

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Schrecker
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 01:52, Michael T. Dean wrote: On 01/23/2006 11:01 PM, Mario Limonciello wrote: A quick question if I may. Am I right in thinking that if I buy a new sound-card with 6 analogue channels on the output it will drive my 5.1 amp (it has 6 channel input) for surround

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-24 Thread Mario Limonciello
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 10:58 -0500, Steve Adeff wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 10:45, Mario Limonciello wrote: and have you tried setting the audio output device to ALSA? I don't believe just putting ALSA in the box would do much. The myth code goes through and removes the first 5

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread Michael T. Dean
mike choy wrote: Paul V. Gratz wrote: Actually there is supposed to be a plugin for this in alsa called softvol. Wondered how long it would take for this to come up. Check out the bottom of this page: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html I messed with it for a

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread Ben Suffolk
As a matter of fact, I don't expect to use digital connections for any of my audio. I can't live without timestretch, anymore (thanks, Mark)--on TV and for DVD's--and decoding and re-encoding an AC-3 (*lossy* compression algorithm) stream to allow timestretch seems like it negates the

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread Paul V. Gratz
On Monday 23 January 2006 02:34 am, Michael T. Dean wrote: mike choy wrote: The simple way to do all this is to use an Infrared remote. Programme up the vol control on your remote to move the vol on your av amp only. There's no need to change inputs or devices on your remote. Leave the

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 01/23/2006 02:00 PM, Ben Suffolk wrote: As a matter of fact, I don't expect to use digital connections for any of my audio. I can't live without timestretch, anymore (thanks, Mark)--on TV and for DVD's--and decoding and re-encoding an AC-3 (*lossy* compression algorithm) stream to allow

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread Mario Limonciello
A quick question if I may. Am I right in thinking that if I buy a new sound-card with 6 analogue channels on the output it will drive my 5.1 amp (it has 6 channel input) for surround sound. Yes (assuming you mean by 6-channel input that you have at least 6 RCA connectors or 3 headphone

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread vimer
On 1/23/06, Mario Limonciello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this exact note - I was having trouble just today with a recent SVN release attempting to do 5.1 native from myth the analogue route. I have a HD5000 that records a few streams with 5.1. I also have xine setup to use the analogue 5.1

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread Mario Limonciello
You have the same card as mine, Audigy 2. If there is nobody here can provide you a clean way to make it work, drop me a line, I will let you know my workaround, which is not so pretty. Well my primary box has an Audigy 2. My secondary box has a Audigy Value 24 Bit (uses the CA0106 driver

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 01/23/2006 11:01 PM, Mario Limonciello wrote: A quick question if I may. Am I right in thinking that if I buy a new sound-card with 6 analogue channels on the output it will drive my 5.1 amp (it has 6 channel input) for surround sound. Yes (assuming you mean by 6-channel input

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-23 Thread Mario Limonciello
What are you using for an ALSA conf (~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf)? Mike I'm using the default alsa configuration for gentoo. I haven't created either an ~/.asoundrc nor /etc/asound.conf. Gentoo loads a card specific configuration for my card however through

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-22 Thread Ben Suffolk
No, Ben, I don't. And, as I understand it, this is impossible. Since we're just passing through a digital signal to the receiver, it's all up to the receiver to deal with it. In order to change the volume, we would need to decode the audio, sample down the volume, reencode it, then

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-22 Thread Paul V. Gratz
On Sunday 22 January 2006 08:29 am, Ben Suffolk wrote: No, Ben, I don't. And, as I understand it, this is impossible. Since we're just passing through a digital signal to the receiver, it's all up to the receiver to deal with it. In order to change the volume, we would need

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-22 Thread Phill Edwards
Actually there is supposed to be a plugin for this in alsa called softvol. Check out the bottom of this page: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html I messed with it for a while but I've been unable to figure out how to make it work Nor have I. I've tried but

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-22 Thread mike choy
Paul V. Gratz wrote: On Sunday 22 January 2006 08:29 am, Ben Suffolk wrote: No, Ben, I don't. And, as I understand it, this is impossible. Since we're just passing through a digital signal to the receiver, it's all up to the receiver to deal with it. In order to change

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread Ben Suffolk
I changed my device to ALSA:spdif and the mixer to default and BAM! I've got dolby digital coming out. I'm using Jarod's .asoundrc file and it seems to be working great. Thanks everyone! Do you have volume control via myth with this method? I can get all my audio output through the

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Propeck
If/when I get my VGforMyth volume to recreate/mount I can check this.On 1/20/06, Ben Suffolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed my device to ALSA:spdif and the mixer to default and BAM! I've got dolby digital coming out. I'm using Jarod's .asoundrc file and it seems to be working great. Thanks

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread William Lewis
Do you have volume control via myth with this method? I can get all my audio output through the spdif connector, but can not find anyway of controlling the volume via myth (this would be my preferred option as I like the on screen volume display). My amp is in a different room (as is the myth

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Friday 20 January 2006 05:11, William Lewis wrote: Do you have volume control via myth with this method? I can get all my audio output through the spdif connector, but can not find anyway of controlling the volume via myth (this would be my preferred option as I like the on screen volume

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 01/19/06 22:25, Jarod Wilson wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 19:11, William Lewis wrote: Yeah. Shouldn't video as timebase be disabled if AC-3 Passthrough is enabled and there's an AC-3 stream? (Kind of like AC-3 is disabled when the user initiates timestretch--at least until Mark

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread William Lewis
How 'bout simply disabling 'use video as timebase' at run-time when passing raw AC3, regardless of what 'use video as timebase' is set to. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say (that's why I compared it to the runtime disabling of AC-3 passthrough with timestretch and why I said, [if] there's

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:09:46PM -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote: On 01/19/06 22:25, Jarod Wilson wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 19:11, William Lewis wrote: Yeah. Shouldn't video as timebase be disabled if AC-3 Passthrough is enabled and there's an AC-3 stream? (Kind of like AC-3

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:21:07PM -0600, William Lewis wrote: How 'bout simply disabling 'use video as timebase' at run-time when passing raw AC3, regardless of what 'use video as timebase' is set to. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say (that's why I compared it to the runtime

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 01/20/2006 02:21 PM, William Lewis wrote: How 'bout simply disabling 'use video as timebase' at run-time when passing raw AC3, regardless of what 'use video as timebase' is set to. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say (that's why I compared it to the runtime disabling of AC-3

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread mike choy
Jarod Wilson wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:09:46PM -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote: On 01/19/06 22:25, Jarod Wilson wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 19:11, William Lewis wrote: Yeah. Shouldn't video as timebase be disabled if AC-3 Passthrough is enabled and there's

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Chad
On 1/19/06, Adam Propeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having something similar that's driving me batty. I tried to switch to /dev/adsp for my sound device, but it can't initialize audio when I do that. If I keep /dev/dsp as the sound device and enable passthrough, I get horrible noises

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Marius Schrecker
On 1/19/06, Adam Propeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having something similar that's driving me batty. I tried to switch to /dev/adsp for my sound device, but it can't initialize audio when I do that. If I keep /dev/dsp as the sound device and enable passthrough, I get horrible noises

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Phill Edwards
I never did get igital out working as it was intended, have posted both here and on the alsa mailing list, but nobody had anything to say about spdif out only working using the analog settings (as per digital sound howto), and yes, I double checked my devices (nforce 4). Here's my .asoundrc.

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
To both of you, when I finally broke down and used Myth's internal alsa controls, everything went smooth from there. My Audio Output Device is: ALSA:default I am using ALSA:default also... What are you doing for volume control and mixer device? And when I uncheck the AC3 passthrough box,

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Propeck
So if I only show /dev/dsp and /dev/adsp in my device list, does that mean I don't have Alsa support compiled in? I'm not seeing anything other than those two devices. I assumed that /dev/adsp was the ALSA device.On 1/19/06, William Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To both of you, when I finally

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
From: Adam Propeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:56:13 -0600 So if I only show /dev/dsp and /dev/adsp in my device

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Propeck
Thanks Johan and Will! I'll check this out tonight!On 1/19/06, William Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: Adam Propeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.orgTo: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.orgSubject: Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Johan Kihlström
No, it doesn't mean that it's not compiled in. You have to type in the ALSA:default setting to make it work. Hope that helps! Johan tor 2006-01-19 klockan 09:56 -0600 skrev Adam Propeck: So if I only show /dev/dsp and /dev/adsp in my device list, does that mean I don't have Alsa support

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Chad
On 1/19/06, William Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To both of you, when I finally broke down and used Myth's internal alsa controls, everything went smooth from there. My Audio Output Device is: ALSA:default I am using ALSA:default also... What are you doing for volume control and mixer

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
Everything is running into my AV Receiver, that's where my volume is controlled. I uncheck the box for internal volume controls. There was a post to the list a while back on how to send everything out over the spdif, and have your receiver decide if it's AC3 or PCM, the key was in the .asoundrc.

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Chad
On 1/19/06, William Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything is running into my AV Receiver, that's where my volume is controlled. I uncheck the box for internal volume controls. There was a post to the list a while back on how to send everything out over the spdif, and have your receiver

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Chad
On 1/19/06, Chad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/19/06, William Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything is running into my AV Receiver, that's where my volume is controlled. I uncheck the box for internal volume controls. There was a post to the list a while back on how to send everything

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Nick
On 19/01/06, Chad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found the thread, here's the quote: - To answer myself my own question: yes, it is possible. The following .asoundrc (have spent whole

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
For anyone following the thread, once Use video as timebase was disabled, everything worked perfectly. The trick was to have everything with AC3 passed through by Myth and to have everything else sampled to 48000 Hz for output via PCM. ALSA made this second part possible. Thanks for

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 01/19/2006 06:47 PM, William Lewis wrote: For anyone following the thread, once Use video as timebase was disabled, everything worked perfectly. The trick was to have everything with AC3 passed through by Myth and to have everything else sampled to 48000 Hz for output via PCM. ALSA

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Joshua M Thompson
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 21:45 +, Nick wrote: On 19/01/06, Chad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found the thread, here's the quote: - To answer myself my own question: yes, it is

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
Yeah. Shouldn't video as timebase be disabled if AC-3 Passthrough is enabled and there's an AC-3 stream? (Kind of like AC-3 is disabled when the user initiates timestretch--at least until Mark finishes his AC-3 re-encode work.) Mike The only difficulty is an implementation detail. Since the

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Thursday 19 January 2006 19:11, William Lewis wrote: Yeah. Shouldn't video as timebase be disabled if AC-3 Passthrough is enabled and there's an AC-3 stream? (Kind of like AC-3 is disabled when the user initiates timestretch--at least until Mark finishes his AC-3 re-encode work.) Mike

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Propeck
I changed my device to ALSA:spdif and the mixer to default and BAM! I've got dolby digital coming out. I'm using Jarod's .asoundrc file and it seems to be working great. Thanks everyone!On 1/19/06, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 19:11, William Lewis wrote:

[mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-18 Thread William Lewis
This is a new one for me... I am running subversion from yesterday, and I cannot for the life of me get S/PDIF to send a 5.1 signal to my receiver. Xine works fine. Mplayer works fine with Myth recordings. But Myth does strange things. When I start a program, it may stutter then go out for

Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-18 Thread Adam Propeck
I'm having something similar that's driving me batty. I tried to switch to /dev/adsp for my sound device, but it can't initialize audio when I do that. If I keep /dev/dsp as the sound device and enable passthrough, I get horrible noises eminating from my receiver. I've got a Sound Blaster Audigy 2