Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-26 Thread Nick
On 25/01/06, Justin The Cynical [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, for a remote FE, a fast Celeron will work fine for SD broadcast. I'm running a slave BE/FE system using a Celeron 1.3GHz w/256MB RAM (Intel 815 chipset). Video is TV-Out from an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro. This is with a PVR-150 and 2xDVB

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-26 Thread Raphael Pooser
Justin The Cynical wrote: On Tue, January 24, 2006 10:14, Raphael Pooser wrote: *snip* In reality, encoding/decoding is computationally intensive, and at the same time you need bandwidth as these actions involve streaming. since Celeron is piss poor at floating point and has no

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-25 Thread Justin The Cynical
On Tue, January 24, 2006 10:14, Raphael Pooser wrote: *snip* In reality, encoding/decoding is computationally intensive, and at the same time you need bandwidth as these actions involve streaming. since Celeron is piss poor at floating point and has no bandwidth to access the RAM, it must

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-25 Thread Stewart
Hmm, I'm running on an old FIC-SD11 Mainboard with a Slot-A Athlon 950. I've got 384 Megs of RAM in it. As for encoders/decoders, I'm running a 350 and using the hardware output. I also have a 500 and all three tuners are working well, now that I got IVTV 0.4.2 installed (I had the new

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-25 Thread Cymen Vig
On 1/25/06, Justin The Cynical [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, January 24, 2006 10:14, Raphael Pooser wrote: *snip* In reality, encoding/decoding is computationally intensive, and at the same time you need bandwidth as these actions involve streaming. since Celeron is piss poor at

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-24 Thread Gary Manning
When I started this thread, I was hoping we could get a discussion going about processor performance beyond just raw cpu speed, especially as it relates to HDTV material. If cpu speed were the only factor, then a Celeron 3GHz would be better than a P4 2.8GHz, but I doubt that is true. I guess

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-24 Thread Richard Bronosky
Michael T. Dean wrote: Trey Boudreau wrote: A useful rule of thumb says that you can buy the same compute hardware cheaper next week (or next month). If you wait 18 months (a la Mr. Moore), you'll only end up half broke ;-) I thought Moore's "law" recently died,

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-24 Thread Raphael Pooser
Well Cache is important. Another reason a Celeron will suck compared to a P4 is the bandwidth between the processor and RAM is crippled. The Celeron front side bus was always chopped in half compared to a pentium. The netburst architecture has always been bandwidth hungry, so you take a

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-24 Thread Paul V. Gratz
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 12:14 pm, Raphael Pooser wrote: Well Cache is important. Another reason a Celeron will suck compared to a P4 is the bandwidth between the processor and RAM is crippled. The Celeron front side bus was always chopped in half compared to a pentium. The netburst

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-23 Thread Michael T. Dean
Trey Boudreau wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 05:42:50PM -0700, Brian Wood wrote: Nobody ever complained about having too much CPU, or RAM, I'd go for the best I could afford. Sometimes all the CPU you can afford choice gets you into the more fan noise than you can stand configuration.

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-23 Thread Michael T. Dean
Trey Boudreau wrote: A useful rule of thumb says that you can buy the same compute hardware cheaper next week (or next month). If you wait 18 months (a la Mr. Moore), you'll only end up half broke ;-) I thought Moore's law recently died, thus the X2 and Core (TM) Duo's* and soon quad-cores

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-23 Thread Nick
On 23/01/06, Michael T. Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *I can't believe Intel is actually calling them Intel (R) Core (TM) Duo processors ( http://www.intel.com/products/processor/coreduo/ ). And, why isn't that (TM) after the word Duo? I'm pretty sure that the word Core is *not* owned by

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-23 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 01/24/2006 01:51 AM, Nick wrote: On 23/01/06, Michael T. Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *I can't believe Intel is actually calling them Intel (R) Core (TM) Duo processors ( http://www.intel.com/products/processor/coreduo/ ). And, why isn't that (TM) after the word Duo? I'm pretty sure

[mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-22 Thread Gary Manning
I currently have an XP2600 and 6200 video card that seems to have enough processing power for HD in Windows, but requires xvmc in Linux. Due to the stability and usability issues with xvmc, I would like to get my system to the point where I will not need to use it. Most of what has been

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-22 Thread Brian Wood
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Gary Manning wrote: I currently have an XP2600 and 6200 video card that seems to have enough processing power for HD in Windows, but requires xvmc in Linux. Due to the stability and usability issues with xvmc, I would like to get my system to the point

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-22 Thread Trey Boudreau
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 05:42:50PM -0700, Brian Wood wrote: Nobody ever complained about having too much CPU, or RAM, I'd go for the best I could afford. Sometimes all the CPU you can afford choice gets you into the more fan noise than you can stand configuration. As to RAM, you'd do well

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-22 Thread Brian Wood
On Jan 22, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Trey Boudreau wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 05:42:50PM -0700, Brian Wood wrote: Nobody ever complained about having too much CPU, or RAM, I'd go for the best I could afford. Sometimes all the CPU you can afford choice gets you into the more fan noise than you

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-22 Thread Gary Manning
From: Brian Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:42:50 -0700 On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Gary Manning

Re: [mythtv-users] Performance from a different perspective

2006-01-22 Thread Trey Boudreau
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 06:32:27PM -0700, Brian Wood wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Trey Boudreau wrote: As to RAM, you'd do well to follow my First Law of Computing: Thou shalt not swap. Perhaps, but if you find yourself with unused RAM you could always use it as ramdisks