Re: Messages in junk/spam box

On 02/22/2010 12:11 AM, Tarig Y. Adam wrote: > Hi > Messages we send from our mail sever always received at SPAM box in many > Public Mail servers like hotmail, yahoo, and gmail. We made a revers dns > lookup, and there is no spamming from our server, still messages go to junk. > how to solve th

Re: Messages in junk/spam box

On 2/22/2010 4:09 AM, Raoul Bhatia [IPAX] wrote: > On 02/22/2010 12:11 AM, Tarig Y. Adam wrote: >> Hi >> Messages we send from our mail sever always received at SPAM box in many >> Public Mail servers like hotmail, yahoo, and gmail. We made a revers dns >> lookup, and there is no spamming from o

Re: Looking Glass software - what's the current state of the art?

On 2/21/10 7:41 PM, Joel M Snyder wrote: We are migrating our web server from platform A to mutually incompatible platform B and as a result the 7-year-old DCL script I wrote that does Looking Glass for us needs to be replaced. (from my comments, looks like I stole the idea from e...@digex.net...

DNS server software

Hello all, We are a mid-sized carrier (1.2M broadband subscribers) and we are looking for an upgrade in our public DNS resolver infrastructure, so we are interested in getting to know what are you guys using in your networks. Mainly what kind/brand of software and which architecture did you use to

Chuck Norris Botnet and Broadband Routers

Last week Czech researchers released information on a new worm which exploits CPE devices (broadband routers) by means such as default passwords, constructing a large DDoS botnet. Today this story hit international news. Original Czech: http://praguemonitor.com/2010/02/16/czech-experts-uncover

Re: DNS server software

Claudio Lapidus (clapidus) writes: > Hello all, > > We are a mid-sized carrier (1.2M broadband subscribers) and we are looking > for an upgrade in our public DNS resolver infrastructure, so we are > interested in getting to know what are you guys using in your networks. > Mainly what kind/brand of

Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

The email portability bill has just been approved by the Knesset's committee for legislation, sending it on its way for the full legislation process of the Israeli parliament. While many users own a free email account, many in Israel still make use of their ISP's email service. According to

Re: Chuck Norris Botnet and Broadband Routers

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:21 +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: > Last week Czech researchers released information on a new worm which > exploits CPE devices (broadband routers) by means such as default > passwords, constructing a large DDoS botnet. Today this story hit > international news. > What makes

Re: Chuck Norris Botnet and Broadband Routers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:17 AM, William Pitcock wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:21 +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: >> Last week Czech researchers released information on a new worm which >> exploits CPE devices (broadband routers) by means such as defaul

Re: Chuck Norris Botnet and Broadband Routers

Hi, team. William Pitcock wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:21 +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: >> Last week Czech researchers released information on a new worm which >> exploits CPE devices (broadband routers) by means such as default >> passwords, constructing a large DDoS botnet. Today this story hi

Re: Chuck Norris Botnet and Broadband Routers

On 2/22/10 5:17 PM, William Pitcock wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:21 +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: Last week Czech researchers released information on a new worm which exploits CPE devices (broadband routers) by means such as default passwords, constructing a large DDoS botnet. Today this story hit

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: > The email portability bill has just been approved by the Knesset's > committee for legislation, sending it on its way for the full legislation > process of the Israeli parliament. > > While many users own a free email account, many in Israel s

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, James Jones wrote: Why does this seem like a really bad idea? While I think the principal is noble there are operational problems: 1) Large and increasing quantity of email will be forwarded between Israeli ISPs, loading their networks with traffic that could have been

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Feb 22, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, James Jones wrote: > >> Why does this seem like a really bad idea? > > While I think the principal is noble there are operational problems: > > 1) Large and increasing quantity of email will be forwarded between Israel

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

I am sure the various carriers faced with the onset of Local Number Portability and WLNP in this part of the world would have been happy to escape with only forwarding phone calls for 3 months. Alas, such was not their fate :) I would watch out for this idea, it might actually catch on in various

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Robert Brockway wrote: > > IMHO it would have been better to require the ISPs to forward the email for > a reasonable period of time (say 3 months) to allow the user to make > relevant notifications (or just stop using an ISP bound email address). > > To me that s

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 04:24:54PM +, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, James Jones wrote: > >> Why does this seem like a really bad idea? > > While I think the principal is noble there are operational problems: > > 1) Large and increasing quantity of email will be forwarded between

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

There's no way to do this without some underlying forwarding... and aside from the obvious inefficiencies, bear in mind that any spam mitigation devices on the last hop that decide they are receiving spam are going to direct their wrath (reputation scores, blacklisting, greylisting, rate limiting,

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 10:24 AM, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, James Jones wrote: > >> Why does this seem like a really bad idea? > > While I think the principal is noble there are operational problems: I dare say. I own example. I fire George for a long list of foul deeds. He goes to w

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

Gadi Evron wrote: > The email portability bill has just been approved by the Knesset's > committee for legislation, sending it on its way for the full > legislation process of the Israeli parliament. > > While many users own a free email account, many in Israel still make use > of their ISP's emai

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:30:53AM -0600, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 2/22/2010 10:24 AM, Robert Brockway wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, James Jones wrote: > > > >> Why does this seem like a really bad idea? > > > > While I think the principal is noble there are operational problems: > > I dare s

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 2/22/2010 10:24 AM, Robert Brockway wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, James Jones wrote: > > > >> Why does this seem like a really bad idea? > > > > While I think the principal is noble there are operational problems: > > I dare say. > > I

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

There are huge differences in LNP/WLNP vs. Email Address portability. Prior to LNP/WLNP, there was already SS7 which is, essentially a centralized layer of indirection for phone numbers. This was necessary in order to support multiple LECs serving the same NPA-NXX anyway. Once that was in place,

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

> > > I dare say. > > I own example. I fire George for a long list of foul deeds. He goes to > work for another company and writes email from geo...@example.com that > injures my reputation. > > I suspect we are only talking about email addresses provided as part of a commercial service, not as a

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

A thing being missed here is this: A telephone number does not have an obvious affinity with personal intellectual-property-like information. (402 332- is not obviously a Northwest Bell-USWest-Quest telephone number, but at least two of them are now served by Cox. A person using a 917 NNX-XX

Re: In wall switches

On 2/16/10 11:28 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: Does anyone know of anything like a small, but managed in wall switch? I have an area where the business needs to deploy more thin client kiosks than I have data drops and it's impossible to add more due to how the walls on that floor (basement) where

Re: In wall switches

I ordered 4 of the 3CNJ2000. The came in the other day. So far, looks like they will work out fine, considering they even support .1x (supposedly), but I already noticed an annoying thing - they don't get the DHCP address reliably and fall back the 169. address. So one would have to disconnect from

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:30:53 CST, Larry Sheldon said: > > Unfortunately the links cited are in Hebrew so I'm only going on Gadi's > > report here. > > Why is that relevant? For the same reason that if I cited a link that lead to a page in Latvian, you'd have a hard time double-checking that my

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > > An email address that ends in example.com irrevocably ties the address > user to the company Example and may in fact be affirmatively harmful > beyond the technical difficulty of implementation. > > IMHO, ISPs would be forged to take Goog

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 11:19 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:30:53 CST, Larry Sheldon said: > >>> Unfortunately the links cited are in Hebrew so I'm only going on Gadi's >>> report here. >> >> Why is that relevant? > > For the same reason that if I cited a link that lead to a p

Assistance Required for Masters Program

I am in the process of enrolling in a Masters of Information Assurance (MSIA) program and need some assistance. The program requires that we complete a case study at the end of each three month term. I have chosen to do my case studies on the Internet Service Provider industry. I worked in the i

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

Am I missing something? All the ISP has to do is to provision a pop3 / imap / webmail mailbox for that user and keep it around. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > There are huge differences in LNP/WLNP vs. Email Address portability. > > Prior to LNP/WLNP, there was already SS

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 11:22 AM, Mustafa Golam - wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > > >> >> An email address that ends in example.com irrevocably ties the address >> user to the company Example and may in fact be affirmatively harmful >> beyond the technical difficulty of imp

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I am sure the various carriers faced with the onset of Local Number Portability and WLNP in this part of the world would have been happy to escape with only forwarding phone calls for 3 months. I'm sure they would :) I know very little of the workings o

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 11:28 AM, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 2010-02-22, at 10:09, Gadi Evron wrote: > >> The email portability bill has just been approved by the Knesset's >> committee for legislation, sending it on its way for the full >> legislation process of the Israeli parliament. >> >> While many users

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2010-02-22, at 10:09, Gadi Evron wrote: > The email portability bill has just been approved by the Knesset's committee > for legislation, sending it on its way for the full legislation process of > the Israeli parliament. > > While many users own a free email account, many in Israel still m

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 11:29 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Am I missing something? All the ISP has to do is to provision a pop3 > / imap / webmail mailbox for that user and keep it around. And provide storage, support, .., mail-bomb cleanup. Whose TOS applies? -- "Government big enough to supp

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Larry Sheldon wrote: Believe it or not, some people have email addresses that are not intrinsically "ISP" addresses. Indeed. I'm sure pretty much everyone here know why ISPs offer email services. My reaction, if I were in a position to do so, would be to stop providin

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/10 12:28 PM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2010-02-22, at 10:09, Gadi Evron wrote: ... It'd be an interesting twist if contracts between e-mail providers outside Israel and ISPs inside suddenly made this requirement for e-mail address portability leak beyond Israel's borders. Off-list I aske

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

My initial reaction: Does the law in any way imply this mail address has to be provided for free? If not then I don't see any real problem on the surface. It just means we have to offer the opportunity to keep the mail address functioning for a fee. That said, what does occur to me is what happe

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

* Steven Bellovin: > Bring back the MB or MR DNS records? (Only half a smiley.) Eh, you don't want to put this information into a public database. Officially, for privacy reasons. Unofficially, to create a barrier to market entry.

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:24:09 CST, Larry Sheldon said: > You don't note when you are taking somebody's word when they write in > English. Actually, we do. So tell me Larry - if I cited a Latvian web page, and gave a summary, would you feel comfortable blindly passing it along without mentioning t

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 12:34 PM, Barry Shein wrote: > That said, what does occur to me is what happens when we've closed > someone's account for email abuse (e.g., a spammer)? I've been thinking about that issue--spammer drop-boxes. But we are not supposed to talk about spammers here so I was going to tak

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 9:29 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Am I missing something? All the ISP has to do is to provision a pop3 / imap / webmail mailbox for that user and keep it around. As a permanent requirement for all accounts, including changes as the user moves around -- long-term churn is 1

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Feb 22, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Steven Bellovin: > >> Bring back the MB or MR DNS records? (Only half a smiley.) > > Eh, you don't want to put this information into a public database. > Officially, for privacy reasons. Unofficially, to create a barrier to > market entry

artifacts (was Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee_

On 2/22/2010 9:35 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote: I have been wondering about that too--the Internet may be the only artifact of human existence that is generally border insensitive (with exceptions we don't need to enumerate). Pollution. Global warming. Nuclear fallout. ... d/ -- Dave Crock

Re: DNS server software

I do hosting rather than network provisioning, but when I was doing network provisioning we used PowerDNS' resolver. Its small, and its very, very fast. Its customizable and can be scripted using LUA. http://www.powerdns.com On 2/22/2010 9:16 AM, Claudio Lapidus wrote: Hello all, We ar

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 12:42 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:24:09 CST, Larry Sheldon said: > >> You don't note when you are taking somebody's word when they write in >> English. > > Actually, we do. > > So tell me Larry - if I cited a Latvian web page, and gave a summary, woul

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

* Steven Bellovin: > Right; I was not seriously suggesting that the DNS was the right > spot for it. I am seriously suggesting that a redirect mechanism -- > perhaps the email equivalent of HTPP's 301/302 -- would be worth > considering. Then, of course, there's problem of upgrading the > $\alep

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

> Unfortunately the links cited are in Hebrew so I'm only going on Gadi's > report here. Why on earth would you trust Gadi when you could trust me and some acquaintances at Google?

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

I have an idea. Everyone just get a gmail (or otherwise "neutral" account) like me.com or gmail.com or yahoo.com and be done with it. J On Feb 22, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > A thing being missed here is this: > > A telephone number does not have an obvious affinity with persona

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Steven Bellovin wrote: > > I am seriously suggesting that a redirect mechanism -- perhaps > the email equivalent of HTPP's 301/302 -- would be worth considering. > Then, of course, there's problem of upgrading the $\aleph_0$ mail > senders out there to comply... See the 251 an

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

s...@cs.columbia.edu: > I am seriously suggesting that a redirect mechanism -- perhaps the email > equivalent of HTPP's 301/302 -- would be worth considering. We already have SMTP's 221 and 521 response codes for this. But because the response text is free-form there's no way to reliably parse ou

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 1:16 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote: > s...@cs.columbia.edu: >> I am seriously suggesting that a redirect mechanism -- perhaps the email >> equivalent of HTPP's 301/302 -- would be worth considering. > > We already have SMTP's 221 and 521 response codes for this. But beca

Re: DNS server software

Claudio Lapidus writes: > We are a mid-sized carrier (1.2M broadband subscribers) and we are > looking for an upgrade in our public DNS resolver infrastructure, so we > are interested in getting to know what are you guys using in your > networks. Mainly what kind/brand of software and which arch

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:02:38 GMT, Michael Dillon said: > > Unfortunately the links cited are in Hebrew so I'm only going on Gadi's > > report here. > > Why on earth would you trust Gadi when you could trust me and some > acquaintances at Google? >

Re: Spamhaus...

John Levine writes: > I now do nearly all of my spam filtering during the SMTP session. +1. > There might once have been a reason to accept quickly and chew through > the mail later, but these days it all needs chewing so you might as > well do it right away. This has the huge advantage that y

Re: Spamhaus and Barracuda Networks BRBL

On 2/22/2010 12:40 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Is it your position that, as a vendor of antispam services, nobody else should offer their services for a fee? That would be strange indeed Actually I can sympathize with Barracuda on this one: Bob's Widgets is running thier own mail server

Re: Spamhaus...

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:57:31 GMT, Paul Vixie said: > Rich Kulawiec writes: > > We're well past that. Every minimally-competent postmaster on this > > planet knows that clause became operationally obsolete years ago [1], and > > has configured their mail systems to always reject, never bounce. [2]

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I am sure the various carriers faced with the onset of Local Number Portability and WLNP in this part of the world would have been happy to escape with only forwarding phone calls for 3 months. Alas, such was not their fate :) I would watch out for this

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Feb 22, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Steven Bellovin: > >> Right; I was not seriously suggesting that the DNS was the right >> spot for it. I am seriously suggesting that a redirect mechanism -- >> perhaps the email equivalent of HTPP's 301/302 -- would be worth >> considering

Re: Spamhaus and Barracuda Networks BRBL

On 2/22/2010 1:40 PM, Dave Sparro wrote: > On 2/22/2010 12:40 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >> >> Is it your position that, as a vendor of antispam services, nobody >> else should offer their services for a fee? >> >> That would be strange indeed > > Actually I can sympathize with Barracuda on

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

Hank Nussbacher wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > >> I am sure the various carriers faced with the onset of Local Number >> Portability and WLNP in this part of the world would have been happy to >> escape with only forwarding phone calls for 3 months. >> >> Alas, such was not the

Re: DNS server software

On 22-2-2010 15:39, Phil Regnauld wrote: PowerDNS also has an open source solution (www.powerdns.com). PowerDNS is easily modified with custom backends (using a simple pipe interface). All of the above support DNSSEC. I do not think so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Com

Re: Spamhaus and Barracuda Networks BRBL

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 14:40 -0500, Dave Sparro wrote: > Their list, their rules; but it is indeed strange to me. Not too strange: Little Bobby probably does one or two jobs and goes away, leaving the system to run by itself. the SpamAssassin people receive nothing from his choice of software. If B

Re: artifacts (was Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee_

On Feb 22, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > On 2/22/2010 9:35 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote: >> I have been wondering about that too--the Internet may be the only >> artifact of human existence that is generally border insensitive (with >> exceptions we don't need to enumerate). > > > Pollutio

Re: Spamhaus and Barracuda Networks BRBL

On 2/22/10 11:40 AM, Dave Sparro wrote: > Actually I can sympathize with Barracuda on this one: > Bob's Widgets is running thier own mail server for their 25 employees. > They decide the need better spam filters. > They can hire Bob's nephew to drop in a Linux server running Postfix and > SpamAssa

Re: DNS server software

I have been using BIND9. I have also seen a number of folks try other things, but I have found when testing those software that DNSSEC/EDNS0 and properly handling DNS query/response on TCP are not well supported. On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Claudio Lapidus wrote: > Hello all, > > We are a mi

Re: artifacts (was Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee_

Hmmm. While it's easy and reasonable to call these externalities, I suspect a good case could be made that they are not, since they affect the principals, as well as everyone else... I'm confused by the reference to archaic, structured balloons... d/ ps. "Creative misunderstanding is also a

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

Dude, think to the future -- /128s! On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > >> I am sure the various carriers faced with the onset of Local Number >> Portability and WLNP in this part of the world would have been happy to >> escape with

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: Per the followup comments on this, the domain owner might be able to do some things in domain name usage and IP Address assignment to mitigate this, the initial and on-going costs of getting this right and the likelihood of eliminating all

Announcing xtractr (on pcapr)

We just released xtractr, a collaborative cloud app for indexing, searching, extracting and reporting on large pcaps. This thread on NANOG is one of the many use cases that xtractr attempts to solve: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2009-December/015661.html You can learn more about xtract

log parsing tool?

Greetings, Anyone has good recommendations for an open-sourced log parsing and analyzing application? It will be used to work with syslog-ng and other general syslog and application logs. I have been looking at swatch and logwatch, but would like to find out if there are other good choices, thank

TWTELECOM.NET to the white courtesy phone!

Would someone at twtelecom.net's NOC please contact me about a routing issue we are having with you. You apparently have an internal route for one of our netblocks that is causing packets destined to us to be blackholed. TWTELECOM is an upstream of an upstream. -- Bob Poortinga K9SQL

Re: log parsing tool?

Splunk ZanOSS PHP-Syslog-NG aka logzilla LogLogic On 2/22/10 3:15 PM, "fedora fedora" wrote: > Greetings, > > Anyone has good recommendations for an open-sourced log parsing and > analyzing application? It will be used to work with syslog-ng and other > general syslog and application logs. >

Re: log parsing tool?

SEC (Simplet Event Correlator) is a very effective tool for this, IMHO. I am by no means an expert with it, but I know several people who are, and while it is not as well known as splunk or some other tools, I have been very impressed by the results I've seen using it. As with any event correlati

Re: log parsing tool?

I personally like SEC (Simple Event Correlator), check out http://simple-evcorr.sourceforge.net/ Jeff Rooney jtroo...@nexdlevel.com On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:15 PM, fedora fedora wrote: > Greetings, > > Anyone has good recommendations for an open-sourced log parsing and > analyzing application

Re: log parsing tool?

ah, never heard of SEC before and it really looks interesting, Thanks everyone for the great input! FD On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Jeff Rooney wrote: > I personally like SEC (Simple Event Correlator), check out > http://simple-evcorr.sourceforge.net/ > > Jeff Rooney > jtroo...@nexdlevel.c

Re: log parsing tool?

On Feb 22, 2010, at 4:49 PM, fedora fedora wrote: > ah, never heard of SEC before and it really looks interesting, Take a look at SLCT, also by Risto Vaarandi: http://ristov.users.sourceforge.net/slct/ SLCT can parse huge amounts of logs very fast. We use it to crunch firewall logs and also to

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Jeff Kell wrote: > There's no way to do this without some underlying forwarding...  and Forwarding SMTP traffic consumes major bandwidth resources (potentially), as the number of 'ports' eventually increases, and seems like a juicy target for many different types

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Mon Feb 22 09:10:55 > 2010 > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:09:45 +0200 > From: Gadi Evron > To: NANOG Operators Group > Subject: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee > > The email portability bill has just been approved by the Kness

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:35:10 CST, James Hess said: > Resolving the destination address is what DNS is for, not what SMTP > routing is for. You think the situation is bad now, imagine if the X.400 ADMD= and PRMD= had caught on. ;) pgpR6neOmBgus.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

In message <201002230227.o1n2radp021...@mail.r-bonomi.com>, Robert Bonomi write s: > Quick! Somebody propose a snail-mail portability bill. When a renter > changes to a different landlord, his snail-mail address will be optionally > his to take along, "just like" what is proposed for ISP clien

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 13:38 +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <201002230227.o1n2radp021...@mail.r-bonomi.com>, Robert Bonomi > write > s: > > Quick! Somebody propose a snail-mail portability bill. When a renter > > changes to a different landlord, his snail-mail address will be optionally

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

In article you write: >s...@cs.columbia.edu: >> I am seriously suggesting that a redirect mechanism -- perhaps the >email equivalent of HTPP's 301/302 -- would be worth considering. > >We already have SMTP's 221 and 521 response codes for this. But because the >response text is free-form there's n

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 10:38 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article you write: >> s...@cs.columbia.edu: >>> I am seriously suggesting that a redirect mechanism -- perhaps the >> email equivalent of HTPP's 301/302 -- would be worth considering. >> >> We already have SMTP's 221 and 521 response codes for this. B

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

>My initial reaction: Does the law in any way imply this mail address >has to be provided for free? If you had spent 10 seconds with Google Translate on the URL in Gadi's message, you'd already know. R's, John

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

>Unfortunately the links cited are in Hebrew so I'm only going on Gadi's >report here. Google Translate is your friend. Yes, even on MS Word documents written in Hebrew. R's, John

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On 2/22/2010 8:42 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: When Somebody calls one of my "portable" telephone numbers, they don't get a message telling them they have to call some other number. The get call progress tones. You are confusing what is presented to the end-user with what might be going on wit

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 21:20 -0800, Dave CROCKER wrote: > In general, a core problem with the Knesset law is that it presumes > something > that is viable for the phone infrastructure is equally - or at least > tolerably - > viable in the email infrastructure. Unfortunately, the details of the >

Re: log parsing tool?

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 18:14 -0600, Dale W. Carder wrote: > Take a look at SLCT, also by Risto Vaarandi: > > http://ristov.users.sourceforge.net/slct/ > > SLCT can parse huge amounts of logs very fast. We use it to > crunch firewall logs and also to find ports that are flapping > excessively. +1

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:06 AM, gordon b slater wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 21:20 -0800, Dave CROCKER wrote: >> In general, a core problem with the Knesset law is that it presumes >> something >> that is viable for the phone infrastructure is equally - or at least >> tolerably - >> viable in

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:08:54AM -0500, James Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: > > According to this proposed bill, when a client transfers to a different ISP > > the email address will optionally be his to take along, "just like" mobile > > providers do today w

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

> >My initial reaction: Does the law in any way imply this mail address > >has to be provided for free? > > If you had spent 10 seconds with Google Translate on the URL in Gadi's > message, you'd already know. (gosh that only took 12 hours to suggest) Obviously we're discussing a legal and

RE: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

> -Original Message- > From: Barry Shein [mailto:b...@world.std.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:55 AM > To: John Levine > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee > > > > >My initial reaction: Does the law in any way imply this mail >