It will be at least 9-10 years before Google could bid. I think the TV
networks get a chance to renew before anyone else can even bid. Unless the
NFL decides to do something with the NFL Network games they are likely SOL.
ESPN renewed their MNF contract through 2021.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/0
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 21:30, Ken King wrote:
> I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
>
> up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones.
>
> we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office
> space.
>
> what are the though
> Making APs as low power and "local" as possible is good advice
^ Ignoring this advice is one of the biggest mistakes people make. They think
"Oh, I'll just drown out the noise", but the problem is almost never how well
the clients can see the AP - it's the AP seeing the clients. It's hard to
On 1/15/2012 11:30 AM, Ken King wrote:
I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones.
we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space.
what are the thoughts these days on the
No one has mentioned Belair yet? Serves the Minneapolis network pretty well.
http://www.belairnetworks.com/
-Original Message-
From: Greg Ihnen
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:06:26
To: Nathan Eisenberg
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11
Since we're already top-posting…
I'
If your looking for something interactive, check out Mr. CLI
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On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:52, Abdullah Al-Malki wrote:
> Hi fellows,
> I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
> Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract som
Hi Abdullah,
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Abdullah Al-Malki
wrote:
> I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
> Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some
> verification output "show commands" from a large number of devices.
>
> Wh
I have been using PLINK (putty's lesser known sibling) scripts for some of our
smaller customers to execute information gathering before a project in case of
"excellent" documentation. I can usually whip up a script in a few minutes to
get sh ru, sh ver and sh diag from 20 devices. Also been u
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
> Since we're already top-posting…
>
> I've heard a lot of talk on the WISPA (wireless ISP) forum that 802.11g/n
> starts to fall apart with more than 30 clients associated if they're all
> reasonably active. I believe this is a limitation of 80
I like Cisco's WLC's as well. Where I am working we have a few hundred AP's at
one of our sites with WLC's running the show. The 5500 controllers with
CleanAir AP's is awesome.
Dave
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On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:57, Mike Hale wrote:
> Cisco's wireless solutions are pretty badass.
On 01/15/2012 12:52 PM, Abdullah Al-Malki wrote:
Hi fellows,
I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some
verification output "show commands" from a large number of devices.
What kind of scriptin
Another one which looks promising for high-density locations is Xirrus
(www.xirrus.com)
Haven't ever used them though.
-mike
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On Jan 15, 2012, at 15:36, Greg Ihnen wrote:
> Since we're already top-posting…
>
> I've heard a lot of talk on the WISPA (wireless ISP) forum that
My personal opinion has been that we have seen great success in large
environments with FreeRadius and using radrelay for mysql synchronization then
an OpenLDAP-backend. We used FreeBSD/CARP and/or FreeVRRPd for failover but
this can be accomplished in other methods.
FreeRadius has a built-in C
Since we're already top-posting…
I've heard a lot of talk on the WISPA (wireless ISP) forum that 802.11g/n
starts to fall apart with more than 30 clients associated if they're all
reasonably active. I believe this is a limitation of 802.11g/n's media access
control (MAC) mechanism, regardless o
On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Joe Johnson wrote:
>> Meraki... ;^)
>
> Seconded!
>
I'd like to stick my neck out for Meraki also.. They rock.
-Scott
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Ken King wrote:
> I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
>
> up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile
> phones.
>
> we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office
> space.
>
> what are the t
+1 f/Aruba ... and check out the BlackHat conferences, also.
On Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM, "Rafael Rodriguez" wrote:
> I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi controller gear.
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ken King wrote:
>
> > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
>
On Jan 15, 2012 1:40 PM, "Jared Mauch" wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Saku Ytti wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately that does exactly nothing to help with Internet scale.
> >
> > Now scaling for your local environment embedded RP might be beneficial,
but
> > actual practical applications where y
> Meraki... ;^)
Seconded!
Joe Johnson
Chief Information Officer
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Innovative Technology Solutions
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Phone: 708.442.6033 x3456
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Any body tried "Proxim ORiNOCO AP-8000", I have them in two airport and
they really sucks ;)
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Ken King wrote:
> I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
>
> up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile
> phones.
>
> we can
On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Saku Ytti wrote:
> Unfortunately that does exactly nothing to help with Internet scale.
>
> Now scaling for your local environment embedded RP might be beneficial, but
> actual practical applications where you need ASM are very few.
>
Most vendors took out hardwar
he thoughts these days on the best enterprise solution/vendor?
Thanks for your replies.
Ken King
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Meraki... ;^)
http://www.meraki.com/
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-Original Message-
From: Ken King [mailto:kk...@yammer-inc.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:31 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: enterprise 802.11
I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
up to 600 d
I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi controller gear.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ken King wrote:
> I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
>
> up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile
> phones.
>
> we can see hundreds of access poin
Hi there again,
I think Leigh is not available this week, anybody else idea about such a
system?
Which loadbalancer is good to use? LVS or hardware one? or radius as a
proxy?
How database must be placed? How radius servers talk to DB?
And which radius server you suggest? Radiator?
Thanks
On Fri, J
I use ruckus in town and city installs and despite rather a lot of other APs it
performs very well.
I don't have experience of them in high connected station density though.
--
Leigh Porter
On 15 Jan 2012, at 19:33, "Ken King" wrote:
> I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
Hi,
We chose the 3Com, now H3C wx3012 controller and AP9552 accesspoints.
Initial issues where that blackberries could not connect to the wifi, the
support initially was mediocre.
Do note that this was at the time that everything got sold to HP. And they did
pick up the issue and came around w
Ubiquiti's Unifi products are decent, and have *MUCH* improved since their
original release (amazing what you can do with better code!). In the original
release, you had to have a management server running on the same L2 network as
the Aps - they've moved the management to a L3 model so you can
Pseudonyms and declaring conflicts of interest are two separate things.
On 01/15/2012 01:48 PM, Shahab Vahabzadeh wrote:
> Like Rhys Rhaven.
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Rhys Rhaven
> mailto:r...@rhavenindustrys.com>> wrote:
>
> Is "full disclosure" expected on NANOG, or is it just po
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Rhys Rhaven wrote:
Is "full disclosure" expected on NANOG, or is it just polite? Like
mentioning that Chuck Reynolds is a salesman for QualiSystems, and not
just another network operator passing on what they might think will help?
I think it's reasonable to expect that sal
Cisco's wireless solutions are pretty badass. The APs I've used are
absolutely rock solid. Set up will take a bit of time, but once you're
done, maintenance is minimal.
On Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM, "Mike Lyon" wrote:
> Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's still
> pretty n
On (2012-01-15 09:47 -1000), Antonio Querubin wrote:
> >This is misguided, IPV6 does no magic to help scale multicast to Internet
> >scale compared to IPV4.
>
> Actually, IPv6 embedded RP improves scalability over IPv4 MSDP
> peering and ASM.
Unfortunately that does exactly nothing to help with
Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's still
pretty new in the marketspace and this, working out the bugs. I use
their other products exclusively for outdoor wireless.
However, in the offices ive done, ive used Cisco's WLC 4402 controller
which supports 12 access points. Th
Like Rhys Rhaven.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Rhys Rhaven wrote:
> Is "full disclosure" expected on NANOG, or is it just polite? Like
> mentioning that Chuck Reynolds is a salesman for QualiSystems, and not
> just another network operator passing on what they might think will help?
>
> On 0
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Saku Ytti wrote:
This is misguided, IPV6 does no magic to help scale multicast to Internet
scale compared to IPV4.
Actually, IPv6 embedded RP improves scalability over IPv4 MSDP peering and
ASM.
--
Antonio Querubin
e-mail: t...@lavanauts.org
xmpp: antonioqueru...@gmai
Is "full disclosure" expected on NANOG, or is it just polite? Like
mentioning that Chuck Reynolds is a salesman for QualiSystems, and not
just another network operator passing on what they might think will help?
On 01/15/2012 01:21 PM, Chuck Reynolds wrote:
> Hi Abdullah - Have you seen the new Re
Ubiquity
or ubikity, maybe is miss spelled
Someone correct the spelling for him please
thank you
- Original Message -
From: "Ken King"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:30 PM
Subject: enterprise 802.11
I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
up to 600 devices will
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Ted Fischer wrote:
Thanks for the replies so far, but not what I was looking for.
I should have specified that I've done several ns & dig lookups just to
make sure.
We were supposed to have lit up the last of IPv4 last year. I would have
presumed that meant that there was
I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office.
up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones.
we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space.
what are the thoughts these days on the best enterprise solution/vendor?
Thanks
Hi Abdullah - Have you seen the new Resource Manager product from
QualiSystems? It has this capability built into it and out of the box to
support large numbers of devices.
Let me know off line where you are located and I can hook you up.
Regards,
Chuck
-Original Message-
From: Abdul
On (2012-01-11 17:45 -0500), Justin M. Streiner wrote:
> >If multicast is used it shouldn't take 150pbps, it should be much lower.
>
> That could be one of the things that helps spur v6 adoption -
> multicast being somewhat less of an afterthought :)
>
> While v4 multicast works, and delivering
I do this with cluster-ssh, as in some networks I have a generic
script-daemon login that use to log into them all simultaneously. cssh
uses tk and xterm, so its a bit long in the tooth.
New hotness to do this is something like keyboardcast, which can
broadcast keyboard input to however many windo
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 01:56:45PM -0500, Scot Loach wrote:
> On 1/15/12, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote:
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..."
> >
These are good tips. Might also help to strip some of the context fr
hello,
if someone from opentransit is on this list, please contact me
thank you
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As port 137 is the Netbios Name Service port are you *sure* this is a port scan
and not a windows box (or other OS running NetBIOS crud) that simply has
fat-fingered addresses configured?
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>
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 18:56 +0100, Phil Regnauld wrote:
> Abdullah Al-Malki (a.almalki1402) writes:
> > Hi fellows,
> > I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
> > Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some
> > verification output "show
Parallel ssh (pssh) might help you too
--Original Message--
From: Abdullah Al-Malki
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: accessing multiple devices via a script
Sent: Jan 15, 2012 11:52 AM
Hi fellows,
I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
Sometimes I want to a
On 1/15/12 09:56 , Phil Regnauld wrote:
> Abdullah Al-Malki (a.almalki1402) writes:
>> Hi fellows,
>> I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
>> Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some
>> verification output "show commands" from a la
Abdullah Al-Malki (a.almalki1402) writes:
> Hi fellows,
> I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
> Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some
> verification output "show commands" from a large number of devices.
>
> What kind of scrip
Hi fellows,
I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some
verification output "show commands" from a large number of devices.
What kind of scripting solutions you guys are using this case.
Apprecia
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
> AOL has and uses (publicly) a bunch of space in 172/8. In fact, looking
> at a BGP table, I'd say they're by far the largest user (one of the only)
> in that /8.
>
We, AOL, have 172.128/10, 172.192/12, 172.208/13, 172.216/16. These blocks
rep
So kind, compassionate and forgiving that I'll buy Patrick a beer when
I see him next, its been a long time.
--srs
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Network IP Dog wrote:
> Jesus. 172.16/12 fine .. that's rfc1918. The rest of 172/8 is mostly
> unallocated.
>
> What's with the language?
>
> Eph
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:06:42 PM Jay Ashworth
wrote:
> I'm not saying you need the whole 19mbps (though,
> remember here, we are not talking about "Additional
> Carriage"; we are talking about *being the only way
> people can see that game* -- and my example was the
> Super Bowl).. but u
Jesus. 172.16/12 fine .. that's rfc1918. The rest of 172/8 is mostly
unallocated.
What's with the language?
Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!!
-Original Message-
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:35 AM
To: Patrick W. Gilmore
Cc: NAN
Similar to 1.0.0.0/8 case, which was allocated to APNIC last year or so...
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:47 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 06:36:12AM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> > From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Sun Jan 15 02:02:00
>> > 2012
>> > Subject: Re: Whois
On Jan 15, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> I'v read RFC-1918. I cannot find *any* reference to 172.0/12, as the OP
> was asking about. 172.16/12, yes. but not 172.0/12. Can you please clarify
> your advice?
My advice is not to post when you are tired. :)
--
TTFN,
patrick
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
so as a stylistic point, 172/12 is supposed to equal 172.0.0.0/12?
Yeah...it's pretty common to drop the zeros when talkind CIDR.
if memory serves, back in the day, there were records of allocations in
this space,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 06:36:12AM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> > From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Sun Jan 15 02:02:00
> > 2012
> > Subject: Re: Whois 172/12
> > From: "Patrick W. Gilmore"
> > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:58:11 -0500
> > To: NANOG list
> >
> > Read RFC1918.
>
> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Sun Jan 15 02:02:00
> 2012
> Subject: Re: Whois 172/12
> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore"
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:58:11 -0500
> To: NANOG list
>
> Read RFC1918.
>
> Likely a machine on his local network (i.e. behind the same NAT box) is
> h
On 15 Jan 2012, at 09:20, "Ted Fischer" wrote:
> My question is about 172/12. Where is it, what is it's supposed purpose.
See IANA which tells you at
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
That ARIN is handling it. As their whois does not have anything for
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Ted Fischer wrote:
> We were supposed to have lit up the last of IPv4 last year. I would have
> presumed that meant that there was nothing left. Since I can't find a
>
Not a good assumption. There remains IPv4 address space that has not yet
been assigned to a
Jesus. 172.16/12 fine .. that's rfc1918. The rest of 172/8 is mostly
unallocated.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> Read RFC1918.
>
> Likely a machine on his local network (i.e. behind the same NAT box) is
> hitting him.
>
> But that is not guaranteed. A packet with
Thanks for the replies so far, but not what I was looking for.
I should have specified that I've done several ns & dig lookups just to
make sure.
We were supposed to have lit up the last of IPv4 last year. I would have
presumed that meant that there was nothing left. Since I can't find a
refere
On 15 Jan 2012, at 07:39, "Ted Fischer" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Tearing what's left of my hair out.
>
> A customer is getting scanned by a host claiming to be "172.0.1.216".
>
> I know this is bogus, but I want to go back to the customer with as
> much authoritative umph as I can (heaven f
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